Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: IAMTAT
This just has all the hallmarks of a clandestine arms deal...that was either manipulated or went sideways.

Just my opinion...no proof...and I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.
But I keep coming back to this theory.

I keep asking why would an arms deal gone wrong result in shooting through a hotel window at concert-goers????

Perhaps the room was the sales/distribution point for 'modified' weapons.

Also, it's worth noting that a big Vega gun show was scheduled for the same week. Criminal/gang/mob/terrorist buyers would already be in town...but looking to him for some 'modified' weapons.

That still doesn't address my question AT ALL! Why shoot out the window at country music fans because an arms deal went wrong?

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: IAMTAT
This just has all the hallmarks of a clandestine arms deal...that was either manipulated or went sideways.

Just my opinion...no proof...and I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.
But I keep coming back to this theory.

I keep asking why would an arms deal gone wrong result in shooting through a hotel window at concert-goers????

Depends on who Paddock was dealing with. Terrorist perhaps?

Suppose he's in the room doing deals at night.
Some bad guy terrorists show up to the room to buy guns and ammo...They see the guns...see the ammo...and see the concert going on below.
Inspiration strikes.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
For Paddock...HE may have intended to 'disappear' (police say he contingency planned on escaping)...possibly, Paddock planned on disappearing to the Philippines...to change his name and settle with his gf in the new home he sent her and $$$ ahead to purchase.

He might have had a plan to escape, but I'd bet you he was well aware that this was most likely going to end badly for him, one way or another.

Maybe if he had escaped, and ended up in a chase or shootout the explosives were there for an alternative final scene?

We may never know, but it's hard to believe that he didn't know how this would end ultimately for him.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Suppose he's in the room doing deals at night.
Some bad guy terrorists show up to the room to buy guns and ammo...They see the guns...see the ammo...and see the concert going on below.
Inspiration strikes.

Really?

a reply to: IAMTAT

Question for you...

Do you, yourself, really believe this arms deal angle, or are you just jacking with folks?

Honest question.

Until I went to look for the "200 shots fired in the hallway" story I hadn't heard that now police are saying that the cameras he had set up weren't recording! Huh?

www.businessinsider.com...

Despite earlier reports that Paddock had cameras set up in the hallway and in his doors’s peephole police now say the cameras weren’t in use at the time of the shooting.

Makes me scratch my head....

So this guy hated music? Lol

So this guy hated music? Lol

a reply to: IAMTAT

Groups like ISIS aren't meeting some random schmuck in a hotel room to negotiate the purchase of a few civilian grade weapons. They're already getting military grade stuff by the truckload.

And even then, why would an arms dealer be selling guns registered to him that had been purchased over an extended period of time?

It also ignores the fact that he had booked a similarly positioned room across from Lollapalooza but never showed.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: IAMTAT

Question for you...

Do you, yourself, really believe this arms deal angle, or are you just jacking with folks?

Honest question.

Honest answer:
IDK what is true yet.
I'm exploring the angles...because I think there must be more to this story.

originally posted by: diggindirt
Until I went to look for the "200 shots fired in the hallway" story I hadn't heard that now police are saying that the cameras he had set up weren't recording! Huh?

www.businessinsider.com...

Despite earlier reports that Paddock had cameras set up in the hallway and in his doors’s peephole police now say the cameras weren’t in use at the time of the shooting.

Makes me scratch my head....

More like FBI erased the tapes..

a reply to: diggindirt

Hey, I've got some oceanfront property in Iowa for sale!

Anyone interested???

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Suppose he's in the room doing deals at night.
Some bad guy terrorists show up to the room to buy guns and ammo...They see the guns...see the ammo...and see the concert going on below.
Inspiration strikes.

They just happen to bring cameras with them and a sledge hammer for the windows, too, eh?
We've gone from "all the hallmarks" to cloud cuckooland.

I'm not even discounting the idea that he was involved in shady alphabet activities, or there is an active attempt to cover up parts of this story, but the particular narrative you are pushing is uniquely bad.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: IAMTAT

Groups like ISIS aren't meeting some random schmuck in a hotel room to negotiate the purchase of a few civilian grade weapons. They're already getting military grade stuff by the truckload.

And even then, why would an arms dealer be selling guns registered to him that had been purchased over an extended period of time?

It also ignores the fact that he had booked a similarly positioned room across from Lollapalooza but never showed.

They can if he met them online or got radicalized in Saudi Arabia

originally posted by: diggindirt
Until I went to look for the "200 shots fired in the hallway" story I hadn't heard that now police are saying that the cameras he had set up weren't recording! Huh?

www.businessinsider.com...

Despite earlier reports that Paddock had cameras set up in the hallway and in his doors’s peephole police now say the cameras weren’t in use at the time of the shooting.

Pretty convenient that we now won't have a record of who came up and down that wing or when, eh what?
This investigation stinks to high heaven

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: IAMTAT

Question for you...

Do you, yourself, really believe this arms deal angle, or are you just jacking with folks?

Honest question.

Only arms deal angle makes any sense.

If you plan to shoot a lot of people, you don't need a lot of guns.

You need one gun and lots of bullets.

A man only has two arms. Can't fire 19 semi-automatic rifles with two arms.

The fact that he had so many guns in the hotel room, signals to us that he was "showing" these items to one or more buyers, just like a gun store would.

originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: IAMTAT

Question for you...

Do you, yourself, really believe this arms deal angle, or are you just jacking with folks?

Honest question.

Only arms deal angle makes any sense.

If you plan to shoot a lot of people, you don't need a lot of guns.

You need one gun and lots of bullets.

A man only has two arms. Can't fire 19 semi-automatic rifles with two arms.

The fact that he had so many guns in the hotel room, signals to us that he was "showing" these items to one or more buyers, just like a gun store would.

That's an opinion.
Not a fact.

If you can prove he was an arms dealer you'd be better off contacting the investigators regarding this. Let them know they can stop doing their jobs.

Exactly if he was trying to escape he's not going to be trying to carry 23 guns out he would have left a few guns at home, some in his car and have some more guns for future attacks. It makes absolutely no sense for him to try and escape yet leave behind all his arsenal come on folks think outside the box

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: IAMTAT

Groups like ISIS aren't meeting some random schmuck in a hotel room to negotiate the purchase of a few civilian grade weapons. They're already getting military grade stuff by the truckload.

And even then, why would an arms dealer be selling guns registered to him that had been purchased over an extended period of time?

It also ignores the fact that he had booked a similarly positioned room across from Lollapalooza but never showed.

Groups like ISIS aren't meeting some random schmuck in a hotel room to negotiate the purchase of a few civilian grade weapons. They're already getting military grade stuff by the truckload.

Not inside the U.S.

And even then, why would an arms dealer be selling guns registered to him that had been purchased over an extended period of time?

He planned on disappearing by leaving the country.

It also ignores the fact that he had booked a similarly positioned room across from Lollapalooza but never showed.

It may have been a coincidence...or a dry run.

Perhaps he was not just selling guns & ammo...but a 'pre-planned terror event package' to the highest bidder.