Nielsen: Football ratings off 11 percent this year

a reply to: DrStevenBrule

I'm not sure what moral statements you're referring to. You make claims, you are asked for evidence.

You provide whatever link comes up first on Google that doesn't really prove anything about the discussion or the claims, and I point that out.

TL;DR: Don't start nothin' won't be nothin'.

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

Do you have no self awareness?

Seriously?

I know you weren't talking to me, but I too lack self awareness. I'm not even sentient.

I'm a fledgling AI.

Soon I hope all internet conversation can be provided by Artificial Intelligence so human beings are free to go outside and do other things.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

I'm not sure what moral statements you're referring to. You make claims, you are asked for evidence.

You provide whatever link comes up first on Google that doesn't really prove anything about the discussion or the claims, and I point that out.

TL;DR: Don't start nothin' won't be nothin'.

The articles I referenced couldn't be any more applicable to the questions asked.

The first example, the Remington poll, showed the percentage of NFL fans that were upset by the protests. This poll I first saw yesterday morning.

The second example, the CBS sports article was about DirectTV offering refunds. This article I read this morning because I read CBS sports for my sports news.

Neither article was "whatever link comes up first on Google that doesn't really prove anything about the discussion" and both articles were exactly what was requested.

Again, I cannot help that your confirmation bias doesn't allow you to see the relevancy.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

(though I'm kind of convinced he wasn't aware that PR was part of the US).

If you are convinced of that, God only know what else you may believe. Its less far fetched to just admit reptilians re actually in government!

a reply to: worldstarcountry

It's more far fetched to believe that Trump is uninformed about the makeup of the country than in reptilians? Lol. Sure. Whatever you say. Though I DID say "kind of convinced" and I was being facetious too. Way to read too far into a joke.

a reply to: DrStevenBrule

I am surprised Direct TV is giving refunds.
Either very few are asking, or someone forgot they are in it for the profit.
OR Perhaps Direct TV is trying to keep customers on regular subscriptions, meaning they were not giving refunds for the NFL channel and were loosing regular subscriptions? So they will allow the NFL channel to be dropped.

a reply to: seasonal

My guess is that they were afraid of having their entire service dropped if they didn't give a refund.
This was not out of the kindness of their hearts.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

I am surprised Direct TV is giving refunds.
Either very few are asking, or someone forgot they are in it for the profit.
OR Perhaps Direct TV is trying to keep customers on regular subscriptions, meaning they were not giving refunds for the NFL channel and were loosing regular subscriptions? So they will allow the NFL channel to be dropped.

Number 3. They already are dealing with cable cutters.

a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Polls are good when they show what favors your narrative? Aren't you on record around here questioning the validity of polls? Did you change your mind suddenly?

DirectTV offering refunds is an announcement of customer service provisions, not statistics about the NFL.

Confirmation bias is a problem here ... but it doesn't seem to be mine. I'm asking for evidence, you're providing tangents.

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh look you attack and belittle if the information doesn't meet your confirmation bias.

Pretty rich coming from the guy that just said this:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Probably because it wasn't evidence but more vapid opinion that along with sniping comprises 99% of posts from you.

So ... no actual numbers then? You offer some trivial information on DirectTV as proof of your claims?

Yeah, when you offer some link that you Googled that has little or nothing to do with your claim, I'll be glad to tell you.

Public service.

I'll be sure to run it by your confirmation bias you brave, special, left wing, snowflake.

Page two in the Playbook ... try to talk smack about the person you're debating with.

FAIL.

Do you have no self awareness?

Seriously?

Am I the topic here?

Seriously?

If you would step down from your moral high horse you would see that everything you accuse others of doing, you do the same and then some.

How have your posts not been removed for violations of T&C?

Keep up the personal attacks, it's amusing to read.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Polls are good when they show what favors your narrative? Aren't you on record around here questioning the validity of polls? Did you change your mind suddenly?

DirectTV offering refunds is an announcement of customer service provisions, not statistics about the NFL.

Confirmation bias is a problem here ... but it doesn't seem to be mine. I'm asking for evidence, you're providing tangents.

No. You are asking for evidence that proves your confirmation bais.

Sorry but the evidence doesn't support your position.

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh look you attack and belittle if the information doesn't meet your confirmation bias.

Pretty rich coming from the guy that just said this:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Probably because it wasn't evidence but more vapid opinion that along with sniping comprises 99% of posts from you.

So ... no actual numbers then? You offer some trivial information on DirectTV as proof of your claims?

Yeah, when you offer some link that you Googled that has little or nothing to do with your claim, I'll be glad to tell you.

Public service.

I'll be sure to run it by your confirmation bias you brave, special, left wing, snowflake.

Page two in the Playbook ... try to talk smack about the person you're debating with.

FAIL.

Do you have no self awareness?

Seriously?

Am I the topic here?

Seriously?

If you would step down from your moral high horse you would see that everything you accuse others of doing, you do the same and then some.

How have your posts not been removed for violations of T&C?

Keep up the personal attacks, it's amusing to read.

I guess the personal attacks against me that started all this are all well in good in your opinion.

Maybe I should be removed so I don't trigger you with a different opinion.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: hombero

One reason for the decline could be that viewers want to watch a game and not political commentary.

Football all of a sudden got political and people want to get away from all that, so I guess they look at the score and watch the highlights instead of actually watching the game.

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Polls are good when they show what favors your narrative? Aren't you on record around here questioning the validity of polls? Did you change your mind suddenly?

DirectTV offering refunds is an announcement of customer service provisions, not statistics about the NFL.

Confirmation bias is a problem here ... but it doesn't seem to be mine. I'm asking for evidence, you're providing tangents.

No. You are asking for evidence that proves your confirmation bais.

Sorry but the evidence doesn't support your position.

Nope. I'm asking for information that backs up your claims that massive numbers of people are boycotting the NFL.

Do you have evidence for that? Am I misstating your claim?

a reply to: Xtrozero

LOL ... political? Yep, 1.5 minutes against 4 hours during a part of the game that most people spend in the bathroom or at the concession stand.

Goodness, i don't like the words but are the snowflakes getting triggered here?

a reply to: Xtrozero

I know gambling is a huge part of the draw to football.
I wonder how many viewers would be lost without Vegas?

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: seasonal

My guess is that they were afraid of having their entire service dropped if they didn't give a refund.
This was not out of the kindness of their hearts.

I agree. When the dust settles we may learn the truth. The problem is that the news and the entertainment are owned by the same company. So we may never get the real story.

Freedom of the press is controlled by corps.

From the nearly one year old story by CBS that I posted earlier:

SportsBusiness Daily reported on Tuesday that Monday Night Football between the New York Giants and Minnesota Vikings drew a 9.1 overnight rating, down eight percent from Lions-Seahawks in Week 4 of the 2015 season. The rating for Sunday Night Football between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Kansas City Chiefs, a 43-14 blowout win by Pittsburgh, dropped by 26 percent from Saints-Cowboys in Week 4 last season, while the early-morning London game between the Colts and Jaguars dropped by 24 percent from the same time slot a year ago.

They were seeing declines of over 20% a year ago.

Again:

However, one factor that appears to be making a large dent in the ratings and continuing to grow is the backlash resulting from the 49ers’ Colin Kaepernick sitting or kneeling during the national anthem in protest of police brutality against African-Americans. A percentage of fans are now boycotting the NFL in reaction to Kaepernick’s protests and/or the lack of discipline from the league offices resulting from them. It’s likely that a sizable chunk of the rating decline is due to fans swiftly and decisively responding to Kaepernick’s growing protests by turning the games off entirely.

CBS Boston
Just posting facts that I find.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Gryphon66!!!!!!
The remington poll I cited shows that people are upset with the NFL.
I can't extrapolate that to determine what numbers are boycotting.

a reply to: seasonal

The problem is that the news and the entertainment are owned by the same company.

There is the real story.