Nielsen: Football ratings off 11 percent this year

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Throes
The proof is in sponsers asking for meetings to discuss. DirrcTV and Anhueser Busch don't want their brands impacted.

Can you show us that proof?

www.cbssports.com...

Oh my goodness, an actual link to information!

Yes, it seems that DirectTV is offering some refunds to dissatisfied customers. I believe that's their standard policy, isn' tit?

No numbers though, and the company didn't comment. What exactly do you think this proves again?

The story that I heard on the radio yesterday was that they have a no refund policy on the Sunday Ticket plan.

That may have been inaccurate, or their stance may have changed from yesterday. I believe the news blurb on the radio came from FOX News.

Okay. Any numbers?

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh look you attack and belittle if the information doesn't meet your confirmation bias.

Pretty rich coming from the guy that just said this:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Probably because it wasn't evidence but more vapid opinion that along with sniping comprises 99% of posts from you.

So ... no actual numbers then? You offer some trivial information on DirectTV as proof of your claims?

Yeah, when you offer some link that you Googled that has little or nothing to do with your claim, I'll be glad to tell you.

Public service.

a reply to: seasonal

A good opportunity for you to start watching REAL football.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Throes
The proof is in sponsers asking for meetings to discuss. DirrcTV and Anhueser Busch don't want their brands impacted.

Can you show us that proof?

www.cbssports.com...

Oh my goodness, an actual link to information!

Yes, it seems that DirectTV is offering some refunds to dissatisfied customers. I believe that's their standard policy, isn' tit?

No numbers though, and the company didn't comment. What exactly do you think this proves again?

The story that I heard on the radio yesterday was that they have a no refund policy on the Sunday Ticket plan.

That may have been inaccurate, or their stance may have changed from yesterday. I believe the news blurb on the radio came from FOX News.

Okay. Any numbers?

What numbers are you referring to?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh look you attack and belittle if the information doesn't meet your confirmation bias.

Pretty rich coming from the guy that just said this:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Probably because it wasn't evidence but more vapid opinion that along with sniping comprises 99% of posts from you.

So ... no actual numbers then? You offer some trivial information on DirectTV as proof of your claims?

Yeah, when you offer some link that you Googled that has little or nothing to do with your claim, I'll be glad to tell you.

Public service.

I'll be sure to run it by your confirmation bias you brave, special, left wing, snowflake.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Throes
The proof is in sponsers asking for meetings to discuss. DirrcTV and Anhueser Busch don't want their brands impacted.

Can you show us that proof?

www.cbssports.com...

Oh my goodness, an actual link to information!

Yes, it seems that DirectTV is offering some refunds to dissatisfied customers. I believe that's their standard policy, isn' tit?

No numbers though, and the company didn't comment. What exactly do you think this proves again?

The story that I heard on the radio yesterday was that they have a no refund policy on the Sunday Ticket plan.

That may have been inaccurate, or their stance may have changed from yesterday. I believe the news blurb on the radio came from FOX News.

Okay. Any numbers?

What numbers are you referring to?

The numbers of refunds that DirectTV has offered?

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh look you attack and belittle if the information doesn't meet your confirmation bias.

Pretty rich coming from the guy that just said this:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Probably because it wasn't evidence but more vapid opinion that along with sniping comprises 99% of posts from you.

So ... no actual numbers then? You offer some trivial information on DirectTV as proof of your claims?

Yeah, when you offer some link that you Googled that has little or nothing to do with your claim, I'll be glad to tell you.

Public service.

I'll be sure to run it by your confirmation bias you brave, special, left wing, snowflake.

Page two in the Playbook ... try to talk smack about the person you're debating with.

FAIL.

a reply to: Gryphon66

You are dense aren't you?

If you would pull your head our of your ass you would see that the refunds started this morning.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh look you attack and belittle if the information doesn't meet your confirmation bias.

Pretty rich coming from the guy that just said this:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Probably because it wasn't evidence but more vapid opinion that along with sniping comprises 99% of posts from you.

So ... no actual numbers then? You offer some trivial information on DirectTV as proof of your claims?

Yeah, when you offer some link that you Googled that has little or nothing to do with your claim, I'll be glad to tell you.

Public service.

I'll be sure to run it by your confirmation bias you brave, special, left wing, snowflake.

Page two in the Playbook ... try to talk smack about the person you're debating with.

FAIL.

Do you have no self awareness?

Seriously?

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh look you attack and belittle if the information doesn't meet your confirmation bias.

Pretty rich coming from the guy that just said this:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Probably because it wasn't evidence but more vapid opinion that along with sniping comprises 99% of posts from you.

So ... no actual numbers then? You offer some trivial information on DirectTV as proof of your claims?

Yeah, when you offer some link that you Googled that has little or nothing to do with your claim, I'll be glad to tell you.

Public service.

I'll be sure to run it by your confirmation bias you brave, special, left wing, snowflake.

Page two in the Playbook ... try to talk smack about the person you're debating with.

FAIL.

Do you have no self awareness?

Seriously?

Am I the topic here?

Seriously?

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

You are dense aren't you?

If you would pull your head our of your ass you would see that the refunds started this morning.

That is not correct. This article states that at least one person was able to get his refund on Monday:

DirecTV customer service representatives contacted by The Post were unable to confirm that the company was providing refunds, but the Journal cited a man who said that, on Monday, he was able to get back the approximately $280 he spent.

www.washingtonpost.com... 5e3f9da3a7

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Throes
The proof is in sponsers asking for meetings to discuss. DirrcTV and Anhueser Busch don't want their brands impacted.

Can you show us that proof?

www.cbssports.com...

Oh my goodness, an actual link to information!

Yes, it seems that DirectTV is offering some refunds to dissatisfied customers. I believe that's their standard policy, isn' tit?

No numbers though, and the company didn't comment. What exactly do you think this proves again?

The story that I heard on the radio yesterday was that they have a no refund policy on the Sunday Ticket plan.

That may have been inaccurate, or their stance may have changed from yesterday. I believe the news blurb on the radio came from FOX News.

Okay. Any numbers?

What numbers are you referring to?

The numbers of refunds that DirectTV has offered?

They offered a refund to all subscribers.
But since they started that offer today there are no numbers yet.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

You are dense aren't you?

If you would pull your head our of your ass you would see that the refunds started this morning.

That is not correct. This article states that at least one person was able to get his refund on Monday:

DirecTV customer service representatives contacted by The Post were unable to confirm that the company was providing refunds, but the Journal cited a man who said that, on Monday, he was able to get back the approximately $280 he spent.

www.washingtonpost.com... 5e3f9da3a7

Thanks for the update.

I stand corrected.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Throes
The proof is in sponsers asking for meetings to discuss. DirrcTV and Anhueser Busch don't want their brands impacted.

Can you show us that proof?

www.cbssports.com...

Oh my goodness, an actual link to information!

Yes, it seems that DirectTV is offering some refunds to dissatisfied customers. I believe that's their standard policy, isn' tit?

No numbers though, and the company didn't comment. What exactly do you think this proves again?

The story that I heard on the radio yesterday was that they have a no refund policy on the Sunday Ticket plan.

That may have been inaccurate, or their stance may have changed from yesterday. I believe the news blurb on the radio came from FOX News.

Okay. Any numbers?

What numbers are you referring to?

The numbers of refunds that DirectTV has offered?

According to this report by ESPN, there are no numbers available.

DirecTV is offering unprecedented refunds for fans who want to cancel their NFL Sunday Ticket package, if they inform the company that they are doing so due to the recent protests during the national anthem, a source confirmed. Once the season starts, fans usually cannot cancel their subscriptions, but AT&T, which owns DirecTV, decided to change the policy due to the sensitivity of the issue. The price of the package, which allows fans to get out-of-market games, is about $280.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Throes
The proof is in sponsers asking for meetings to discuss. DirrcTV and Anhueser Busch don't want their brands impacted.

Can you show us that proof?

www.cbssports.com...

Oh my goodness, an actual link to information!

Yes, it seems that DirectTV is offering some refunds to dissatisfied customers. I believe that's their standard policy, isn' tit?

No numbers though, and the company didn't comment. What exactly do you think this proves again?

The story that I heard on the radio yesterday was that they have a no refund policy on the Sunday Ticket plan.

That may have been inaccurate, or their stance may have changed from yesterday. I believe the news blurb on the radio came from FOX News.

Okay. Any numbers?

What numbers are you referring to?

The numbers of refunds that DirectTV has offered?

According to this report by ESPN, there are no numbers available.

DirecTV is offering unprecedented refunds for fans who want to cancel their NFL Sunday Ticket package, if they inform the company that they are doing so due to the recent protests during the national anthem, a source confirmed. Once the season starts, fans usually cannot cancel their subscriptions, but AT&T, which owns DirecTV, decided to change the policy due to the sensitivity of the issue. The price of the package, which allows fans to get out-of-market games, is about $280.

So, no evidence to back up the claim then?

Thanks.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh look you attack and belittle if the information doesn't meet your confirmation bias.

Pretty rich coming from the guy that just said this:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Probably because it wasn't evidence but more vapid opinion that along with sniping comprises 99% of posts from you.

So ... no actual numbers then? You offer some trivial information on DirectTV as proof of your claims?

Yeah, when you offer some link that you Googled that has little or nothing to do with your claim, I'll be glad to tell you.

Public service.

I'll be sure to run it by your confirmation bias you brave, special, left wing, snowflake.

Page two in the Playbook ... try to talk smack about the person you're debating with.

FAIL.

Do you have no self awareness?

Seriously?

Am I the topic here?

Seriously?

If you would step down from your moral high horse you would see that everything you accuse others of doing, you do the same and then some.

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh look you attack and belittle if the information doesn't meet your confirmation bias.

Pretty rich coming from the guy that just said this:

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Probably because it wasn't evidence but more vapid opinion that along with sniping comprises 99% of posts from you.

So ... no actual numbers then? You offer some trivial information on DirectTV as proof of your claims?

Yeah, when you offer some link that you Googled that has little or nothing to do with your claim, I'll be glad to tell you.

Public service.

I'll be sure to run it by your confirmation bias you brave, special, left wing, snowflake.

Page two in the Playbook ... try to talk smack about the person you're debating with.

FAIL.

Do you have no self awareness?

Seriously?

Am I the topic here?

Seriously?

If you would step down from your moral high horse you would see that everything you accuse others of doing, you do the same and then some.

The irony! It hurts!

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Throes
The proof is in sponsers asking for meetings to discuss. DirrcTV and Anhueser Busch don't want their brands impacted.

Can you show us that proof?

www.cbssports.com...

Oh my goodness, an actual link to information!

Yes, it seems that DirectTV is offering some refunds to dissatisfied customers. I believe that's their standard policy, isn' tit?

No numbers though, and the company didn't comment. What exactly do you think this proves again?

The story that I heard on the radio yesterday was that they have a no refund policy on the Sunday Ticket plan.

That may have been inaccurate, or their stance may have changed from yesterday. I believe the news blurb on the radio came from FOX News.

Okay. Any numbers?

What numbers are you referring to?

The numbers of refunds that DirectTV has offered?

According to this report by ESPN, there are no numbers available.

DirecTV is offering unprecedented refunds for fans who want to cancel their NFL Sunday Ticket package, if they inform the company that they are doing so due to the recent protests during the national anthem, a source confirmed. Once the season starts, fans usually cannot cancel their subscriptions, but AT&T, which owns DirecTV, decided to change the policy due to the sensitivity of the issue. The price of the package, which allows fans to get out-of-market games, is about $280.

So, no evidence to back up the claim then?

Thanks.

What claim did I make?

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Throes
The proof is in sponsers asking for meetings to discuss. DirrcTV and Anhueser Busch don't want their brands impacted.

Can you show us that proof?

www.cbssports.com...

Oh my goodness, an actual link to information!

Yes, it seems that DirectTV is offering some refunds to dissatisfied customers. I believe that's their standard policy, isn' tit?

No numbers though, and the company didn't comment. What exactly do you think this proves again?

The story that I heard on the radio yesterday was that they have a no refund policy on the Sunday Ticket plan.

That may have been inaccurate, or their stance may have changed from yesterday. I believe the news blurb on the radio came from FOX News.

Okay. Any numbers?

What numbers are you referring to?

The numbers of refunds that DirectTV has offered?

According to this report by ESPN, there are no numbers available.

DirecTV is offering unprecedented refunds for fans who want to cancel their NFL Sunday Ticket package, if they inform the company that they are doing so due to the recent protests during the national anthem, a source confirmed. Once the season starts, fans usually cannot cancel their subscriptions, but AT&T, which owns DirecTV, decided to change the policy due to the sensitivity of the issue. The price of the package, which allows fans to get out-of-market games, is about $280.

So, no evidence to back up the claim then?

Thanks.

What claim did I make?

Technically none, but you seem to be supporting a claim.

I corrected my statement.

If anyone thinks the ratings drop over the last year are not connected to kneeling, here is a report from October 4th, 2016.

However, one factor that appears to be making a large dent in the ratings and continuing to grow is the backlash resulting from the 49ers’ Colin Kaepernick sitting or kneeling during the national anthem in protest of police brutality against African-Americans. A percentage of fans are now boycotting the NFL in reaction to Kaepernick’s protests and/or the lack of discipline from the league offices resulting from them. It’s likely that a sizable chunk of the rating decline is due to fans swiftly and decisively responding to Kaepernick’s growing protests by turning the games off entirely.

CBS Boston
Ratings dropped a year ago in response to this story. It is nothing new, and POTUS tweets did not cause it.
Colin Kaepernick did.... and his choice of socks.

EDIT to add:

In response to my thoughts on the NFL’s weaker on-field product leading to a three-week decline in viewership, I received nearly a hundred emails from American viewers, some of which have previously served in the military. Most of them told me in no uncertain terms that they had stopped watching the NFL due to the controversy surrounding Kaepernick and other players across the NFL protesting the national anthem by sitting, kneeling, or demonstrating in other ways. Many of these viewers have similarly exercised their rights as Americans by taking their viewership elsewhere or simply turning off the TV.