Trump-BOYCOTT NFL teams whose players refuse to stand for the National Anthem

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: seasonal

I find it odd that ATS members are wanting these players fired for not participating in a voluntary act of patriotism towards a nation they don't feel represents their best interests, yet... I'm seeing an overlap between those outraged by this and the people who thought it was wrong for white nationalists to get fired for attending a literal Nazi rally.

In other words, by today's ATS logic, opting out of an optional jingoist sing-a-long is more fire-worthy than marching with literal Nazis.

The more I learn of the membership's true colors on this site, the more sad I get.

" find it odd that ATS members are wanting these players fired for not participating in a voluntary act of patriotism towards a nation they don't feel represents their best interests..."

They can protest on their time.
This is not the the 50s and 60s, they have twitter, facebook, a million radio and tv shows they can go on.
They don't need to protest while at work.

And their premise for the protest has been proven crap time and time again.

And it doesn't represent their interest????
The make millions of dollars to play with a ball!!!!!!

That's all, there aren't more important than teachers, doctors, soldiers, cops, firemen.
Yet they are paid like the couldn't be replaced, and they are so, so wrong.

I agree with Trump. I don't watch football anymore. Of course, I don't watch football either. lol But, like the OP said, if your at work than you need to set aside your political views.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I remember those days, a bunch of little robots doing what they're told "or else". Good times.

Sort of like working for Trump?

originally posted by: windword
Trump calls for NFL owners to "fire the sons of bitches" who take a knee in peaceful protest to police brutality and racism, but armed Neo Nazis and White Supremacists, marching with Tiki Torches, chanting "Jews will not replace us!", some of them are "fine people"!

GTFO Mr Trump!

These protesting players should give up their paycheques in protest as they don't support the country that gave them the opportunity.

a reply to: Abysha

i dont want anyone fired or anyones life ruined for protesting whatever they like.


however i am truly disturbed that in America today there is barely a hint of anyone understanding concepts like honor and respect and all these guys are doing is further eroding whats left of what used to be a culture that attempted to teach those ideas using the flag, the anthem and other "americana" traditions.

so....maybe you think its cool (or not) but how cool will it be when after the last traditional symbols that embody or represent all the hopes dreams and sacrifices made for our way of life in America are gone? What historically american symbol will be left to remind us of where we came from, who we are, and where we should be going?

i see young people today having ZERO respect for anything....for their parents, for their elders, for symbols that represent the greatest sacrifices humans can make for a greater good.

without honor you have nothing...and America is almost there.

As a die hard religious sports fanatic, I hate when sports and politics mix. It becomes really cringe-worthy. With that said, there are no wrong sides in this. Both have the right to exercise their rights, so any faux-outrage coming from either side, is just that.

When I go to a strip club, I want to see hot sweaty women dance naked around a pole to loud music, not pay money to have some fat broad dressed in wool read and lecture me about the bible.

Same as football.

I want to watch football to watch football.

If I want to suffer through annoying political lectures. . . . I'll read some ATS posts.

a reply to: angeldoll

Not just Trump, society in general. Either you conform or you're cast out and ridiculed.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: intrepid

That's just it though. He's playing to his base. They'll eat it up as usual. Wrapped in the flag of course.

Oh I bet this is how Trump feels.

The thing that will change this is when the advertising $$$ drop, the players will stand or have strict sanctions applied to their paychecks.


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Don't hold your breath. The NFL is healthy and the few pissed at this mean little to the league.

a reply to: DBCowboy

So ignore the ones kneeling and enjoy the game! How hard is that?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Abysha

So we're Nazi's if we think it's disrespectful and annoying when football players, entertainers, do this.

hmmph.

Is that really what I said? Are you guys getting so triggerable that the mere mention of Nazis raises your hackles and you think the discussion is about you?

Read my post again, I called none of you Nazis.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: DBCowboy

So ignore the ones kneeling and enjoy the game! How hard is that?

Not hard at all.

Many do.

I don't. But I have that freedom, n'est pas?

a reply to: Abysha
The NAZI was not at work, the football players are. And I think maybe one person in this thread actually wanted them fired. Reading through it, you will notice the common theme among us is that they keep their politics out of football and carry on the job as they are paid to do within the rules setup by their employer.

They are welcome to have a private rally anywhere on public property in America to get their message across.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Abysha

So we're Nazi's if we think it's disrespectful and annoying when football players, entertainers, do this.

hmmph.

Is that really what I said? Are you guys getting so triggerable that the mere mention of Nazis raises your hackles and you think the discussion is about you?

Read my post again, I called none of you Nazis.

I'm not triggered, just wondering why you called us Nazi's because we disagree with you.

a reply to: DBCowboy

So you choose to give these players the exposure and attention they're asking for? Brilliant!

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: DBCowboy

So you choose to give these players the exposure and attention they're asking for? Brilliant!

I don't care what they do.

I have the freedom to not obligate them with my personage.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Keep politics out of football? Cool. That means NO national anthem. NO aircraft flyovers. The gov't uses sport to instill politics. The league should have a major say in how that is implemented.

a reply to: intrepid

HA! Got 'em!

originally posted by: Black_Fox

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: seasonal

I find it odd that ATS members are wanting these players fired for not participating in a voluntary act of patriotism towards a nation they don't feel represents their best interests, yet... I'm seeing an overlap between those outraged by this and the people who thought it was wrong for white nationalists to get fired for attending a literal Nazi rally.

In other words, by today's ATS logic, opting out of an optional jingoist sing-a-long is more fire-worthy than marching with literal Nazis.

The more I learn of the membership's true colors on this site, the more sad I get.

" find it odd that ATS members are wanting these players fired for not participating in a voluntary act of patriotism towards a nation they don't feel represents their best interests..."

They can protest on their time.
This is not the the 50s and 60s, they have twitter, facebook, a million radio and tv shows they can go on.
They don't need to protest while at work.

And their premise for the protest has been proven crap time and time again.

And it doesn't represent their interest????
The make millions of dollars to play with a ball!!!!!!

That's all, there aren't more important than teachers, doctors, soldiers, cops, firemen.
Yet they are paid like the couldn't be replaced, and they are so, so wrong.

What does that have to do with what I said? My post was pointing out a double-standard and you simply reinforce what I was saying.

a reply to: intrepid

Asses in seats/views are the real money makers. No viewers, no ad revenues. If this continues you will see a change. The NFL isn't about a football.

Confirmed: NFL Losing Millions Of TV Viewers Because Of National Anthem Protests

www.forbes.com... 26c