Spotify Banning Neo Nazi Music

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: kaylaluv

Christian bookstores won't sell porn.

Censorship.

Now you're getting the hang of it.

Cool. Now if you could just get the hang of the fact that "censorship" isn't always an evil word.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Other than taking choices away from people, no not bad at all.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Cool. Now if you could just get the hang of the fact that "censorship" isn't always an evil word.

It is. One act of censorship is more evil than all of the expressions, songs, books, and speeches combined.

a reply to: DJMSN


They're just cleaning up their bread crumbs they left behind. Hypocrits. But, it's their right to play or remove anything they so choose. They really need to change their slogan though, since they are making the decision to censor certain types of music.

originally posted by: seagull
Is there something wrong with letting the consumer make the choices?

The consumer is still making the choice.

Shop with Spotify or go somewhere else.

originally posted by: seagull
I've no use for the ideology of WS (hopefully that's sunk in by now?), but I fail to see the issue of its presence. I don't listen to it, what little I've heard is rather nauseating, but I can make up my own mind.

Can private enterprises make up their own minds?

a reply to: Edumakated

Call me ignorant, but I have never even heard any of it, so I am not gonna miss it one bit, sure there will be others who agree

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Edumakated

You don't have to be a Christian to subscribe to a Christian music service, but this service won't provide music that goes against their main subscriber base.

Spotify has made the decision to make their main subscriber base non-nazis, so you can be a nazi and subscribe to their service, but they won't provide music that goes against their main subscriber base.

Same same.

Go to www.spotify.com. What does it say? "MUSIC FOR EVERYONE"

Maybe they should change that motto to "Music We Like"

Yeah, "everyone" meaning nazis can sign up too.

If you want a law that forces spotify to play nazi music, than that same law should force Christian bakers to decorate "Satan is Lord" on cakes.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

censorship ˈsensərSHip/Submit noun 1. the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. "the regulation imposes censorship on all media"

pro·hib·it prəˈhibit,prōˈhibit/Submit verb formally forbid (something) by law, rule, or other authority. "laws prohibiting cruelty to animals" synonyms: forbid, ban, bar, interdict, proscribe, make illegal, embargo, outlaw, disallow, veto; More formally forbid a person or group from doing something. "he is prohibited from being a director" (of a fact or situation) prevent (something); make impossible.

sup·press səˈpres/Submit verb forcibly put an end to. "the uprising was savagely suppressed" synonyms: subdue, repress, crush, quell, quash, squash, stamp out; More prevent the development, action, or expression of (a feeling, impulse, idea, etc.); restrain. "she could not suppress a rising panic" synonyms: conceal, restrain, stifle, smother, bottle up, hold back, control, check, curb, contain, bridle, inhibit, keep a rein on, put a lid on "she suppressed her irritation" prevent the dissemination of (information).

I'm surprised you needed those definitions given your pedantic nature, but there you go.

Spotify hasn't prohibited or suppressed anything, they've decided to not carry something. The music still exists, whether Spotify carries it or not. The music can still be distributed. The music can still be listened to.

What are they talking about anyways?

The Norse Black metal from 30 years ago?

Like these guys or them?

Haven't heard from them in a few decades. I guess they ran out of churches to burn.

Unless we're talking about newer stuff that I just haven't come across?

a reply to: FauxMulder

Absolutely they'll decide. So why remove them? I've heard the music...it ain't Beethoven. It is, at best, a niche product.

If they remove it, fine, I'm of the opinion, as you may have noticed, that they don't need to...

Censorship? Yes, it is, but it's also a privately (?) owned operation, they can set their own rules. I'm not going to tell 'em they can't...I will tell 'em I don't like it.

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Edumakated

You don't have to be a Christian to subscribe to a Christian music service, but this service won't provide music that goes against their main subscriber base.

Spotify has made the decision to make their main subscriber base non-nazis, so you can be a nazi and subscribe to their service, but they won't provide music that goes against their main subscriber base.

Same same.

Go to www.spotify.com. What does it say? "MUSIC FOR EVERYONE"

Maybe they should change that motto to "Music We Like"

Yeah, "everyone" meaning nazis can sign up too.

If you want a law that forces spotify to play nazi music, than that same law should force Christian bakers to decorate "Satan is Lord" on cakes.

And a law requiring Walmart to sell dildos, and Christian book stores to sell porn.

a reply to: seagull

Do you think its wrong to take away people's choice to buy child porn? That's censorship.

a reply to: Abysha

Yes. Where have I said they can't? Don't believe that I did. I don't like it.

Better?

a reply to: kaylaluv

One is illegal, the other is not. You figure out which is which.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Abysha

I don't like it.

Better?

Honestly? Yes. Tons better. That distinction isn't really being made by many on this thread.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: kaylaluv

Cool. Now if you could just get the hang of the fact that "censorship" isn't always an evil word.

It is. One act of censorship is more evil than all of the expressions, songs, books, and speeches combined.

The current world has ZERO censorship, I am in my mid 40's and can get you ANYTHING on the internet, when I was younger I to hated the word censorship I grew up with Mary Whitehouse, she hated the programs I used to love.

I just think there should be more ownership/self policing on sites that host videos, blogs that promote ANY hate, if not fine them half there yearly earnings, put that into public spending and move on, simple!!!!!

a reply to: Shamrock6

Spotify hasn't prohibited or suppressed anything, they've decided to not carry something. The music still exists, whether Spotify carries it or not. The music can still be distributed. The music can still be listened to.

What abject sophistry. The Catholic Church didn't suppress books, they just didn't carry them. They still existed somewhere.

What nonsense.

a reply to: Djarums

Neither Hellhammer nor Emperor (maybe one of their members did) burned churches. You're thinking of Mayhem, specifically Varg Vikernes.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: kaylaluv

One is illegal, the other is not. You figure out which is which.

Regardless, it fits the definition of censorship. Censorship isn't always a bad thing, especially when victims are involved or mass genocide/oppression is promoted. Maybe pro-nazi music should be illegal.