Spotify Banning Neo Nazi Music

a reply to: Hecate666

Finally someone who understands the situation. Thanks for you well thought out post.

a reply to: Perfectenemy

Ah back to accused of being a Nazi.

Quote me. I'll wait.

It's truly pointless to discuss anything anymore.

You're right, it is. It's pointless to discuss something with you, when you insist on making things up to try and turn yourself into the victim.

The second you defend something people don't like its over.

Not really. All I did was point out that if you're this upset about a private entity exerting control over their own platform, you must've been upset about other private entities exerting control over their platforms as well.

Which you responded to by making things up, victimizing yourself, and trying to whine about somebody else shutting things down.

Could you please point out when i accused you of being someone you're not? I'll wait.

I never said you did. Are you reduced to asking completely irrelevant questions now?

a reply to: RazorV66

Because they are in the business of selling wedding cakes, but they don't have to decorate it in any specific way that offends them (like putting a penis on it). They can't turn away someone who is gay.

Spotify doesn't want to stream music with specific lyrics that they find offensive - they aren't refusing nazis as customers.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: RazorV66

Because they are in the business of selling wedding cakes, but they don't have to decorate it in any specific way that offends them (like putting a penis on it). They can't turn away someone who is gay.

Spotify doesn't want to stream music with specific lyrics that they find offensive - they aren't refusing nazis as customers.

Look, our censorship isn't the same as their censorship because we're not offended by our censorship... but those guys over there, their censorship is wrong because we're offended by it.

LMAO, America in 2017 has truly become a room full of mushrooms.

a reply to: Edumakated

It's good business and a show of love of country over profit.

White supremacy is not compatible with anything our country stands for. We were nearly divided into two countries because one side wasn't ready to give up it's slave-based economy.

Good on them. And blah on those mushy people who stand in the middle, smugly insisting they're somehow above the need to take a stand because muh free speech.

Hah, good old Spotify, they carry the music of the paedophile, Gary Gitter, the rohypnol Rapist celo green and, no doubt, many others but won't carry songs by Skrewdriver...


You are all bloody mad, or brainwashed or both.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I'm not offended if a baker refuses to decorate a penis on a wedding cake.

Nor am I offended if spotify refuses to play music with pro-nazi lyrics.

a reply to: Shamrock6

The comment about the DailyStormer implied that i frequented that site for some odd reason. Perhaps a failure of communication? I never said that i don't support Spotify's decision to ban music they deem offensive but one has to wonder why the sudden change. I don't listen to Spotify or the music they now banned but i guess they already gave them a platform long before. I'm curious why they did that in the first place. They use an excuse to ban them that apparently was not in place before.

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Edumakated
Are you denying the Silicon Valley leans left politically? The point is they are banning stuff they disagree with.

You are reducing the fight against Nazi ideology to a simple "disagreement". This isn't about "stuff they disagree with" any more than banning child pornography is a matter of "disagreement".

There is a clear line being crossed when the ideology you follow has the end goal of genocide. Those people should not be heard. Period. Not because I disagree with them but because they are #ing Nazis.

Criticizing a private company for withdrawing their affiliation with Nazis isn't defensible by any logic, left or right.

Yeah the fight against Nazi's but what happens if you run out of people to prosecute. Who will be next? Are people really this stupid that they can't see where this is heading. Well i warned you please enjoy your soylent green.

Where what is heading?! The only slippery slope that's been happening for the last couple of years is a broadened acceptance to Nazi ideology.

Resisting this is where we've always stood! So where does a firm stance against Nazi ideology lead? What are you afraid of? We've never been this open to the concept before.

Oh you will soon regret your stance when your right for free speech gets infringed. Like it or not but even Nazi's have rights and as long they are commiting no crimes they deserve to be treated like everyone else. That's why we have Law and Order. People are now itching to hunt them down like dogs. All human lives matter and if you think otherwise you're just another hypocrite. Like i mentioned time and time againevery innocent person that gets now caught in the crossfire is on your hands.

How is Spotify removing Nazi music infringing their rights?

Christian book stores don't carry books on witchcraft. Is that infringing on my rights?

Wouldn't forcing Spotify to carry Nazi music be infringing on their rights?

Instead of defending Nazi music, why not defend your non-regulation stance and defend Spotify's rights as a private business?

Like i pointed out Hip Hop is equally worse but Spotify is still ignoring that for some reason. They are just virtue signaling and that pisses me off. Either your policies count for everyone or not at all.

Hip hop is equally as bad ad Nazi music?

What planet are you on mate.

Hip hop is the biggest music genre in the world and you're comparing it to Nazi music. Lol.

There's a song by tupac called Panther Power and you know what, that isn't even racist.

Back on the day hip hop was never racist, still isn't now. The only mention is how they wipe and alter our history to suit their agenda. Unlike Nazi music which says blacks are lesser people and we shouldn't integrate with people.

Seriously mate put the crack pipe down

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: Shamrock6

The comment about the DailyStormer implied that i frequented that site for some odd reason. Perhaps a failure of communication? I never said that i don't support Spotify's decision to ban music they deem offensive but one has to wonder why the sudden change. I don't listen to Spotify or the music they now banned but i guess they already gave them a platform long before. I'm curious why they did that in the first place. They use an excuse to ban them that apparently was not in place before.

I don't think people fully appreciated the existential threat of a president who believes there are good white supremacists. The effect of Trump's inability to see the difference emboldens KKK sympathizers and their disgusting hangers-on. What we are witnessing now is the societal reaction to the threat.

originally posted by: BlackSkinhead

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Edumakated
Are you denying the Silicon Valley leans left politically? The point is they are banning stuff they disagree with.

You are reducing the fight against Nazi ideology to a simple "disagreement". This isn't about "stuff they disagree with" any more than banning child pornography is a matter of "disagreement".

There is a clear line being crossed when the ideology you follow has the end goal of genocide. Those people should not be heard. Period. Not because I disagree with them but because they are #ing Nazis.

Criticizing a private company for withdrawing their affiliation with Nazis isn't defensible by any logic, left or right.

Yeah the fight against Nazi's but what happens if you run out of people to prosecute. Who will be next? Are people really this stupid that they can't see where this is heading. Well i warned you please enjoy your soylent green.

Where what is heading?! The only slippery slope that's been happening for the last couple of years is a broadened acceptance to Nazi ideology.

Resisting this is where we've always stood! So where does a firm stance against Nazi ideology lead? What are you afraid of? We've never been this open to the concept before.

Oh you will soon regret your stance when your right for free speech gets infringed. Like it or not but even Nazi's have rights and as long they are commiting no crimes they deserve to be treated like everyone else. That's why we have Law and Order. People are now itching to hunt them down like dogs. All human lives matter and if you think otherwise you're just another hypocrite. Like i mentioned time and time againevery innocent person that gets now caught in the crossfire is on your hands.

How is Spotify removing Nazi music infringing their rights?

Christian book stores don't carry books on witchcraft. Is that infringing on my rights?

Wouldn't forcing Spotify to carry Nazi music be infringing on their rights?

Instead of defending Nazi music, why not defend your non-regulation stance and defend Spotify's rights as a private business?

Like i pointed out Hip Hop is equally worse but Spotify is still ignoring that for some reason. They are just virtue signaling and that pisses me off. Either your policies count for everyone or not at all.

Hip hop is equally as bad ad Nazi music?

What planet are you on mate.

Hip hop is the biggest music genre in the world and you're comparing it to Nazi music. Lol.

There's a song by tupac called Panther Power and you know what, that isn't even racist.

Back on the day hip hop was never racist, still isn't now. The only mention is how they wipe and alter our history to suit their agenda. Unlike Nazi music which says blacks are lesser people and we shouldn't integrate with people.

Seriously mate put the crack pipe down

I think you misunderstood my post. I didn't imply that Nazi music and HIp Hop are the same. They just happen to both use lyrics that could be deemed offensive.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: burdman30ott6

I'm not offended if a baker refuses to decorate a penis on a wedding cake.

Nor am I offended if spotify refuses to play music with pro-nazi lyrics.

Right. I think some aren't getting the analogy.

Not selling to a person because of bias is different that not selling a product at all.

It'd be like if the baker didn't offer red velvet cake. And people got all pissed off because....reasons.

The baker (spotify) isn't offering red velvet cake anymore. But gay people (nazis) can still shop there.

a reply to: icanteven

It's good business and a show of love of country over profit.

and some awesome marketing for everyone involved.

trump fans have shown themselves to be not the brightest sparks so are probably downloading spotify and paying a subscription in anger and, while they cry into their keyboard that their new favourite genre is being removed get their ears blown off by some obscure band getting their first royalty cheque.

a reply to: Perfectenemy

I wrote what I meant, if you decided to interpret it beyond what was actually written, I can't help you.

originally posted by: icanteven

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: Shamrock6

The comment about the DailyStormer implied that i frequented that site for some odd reason. Perhaps a failure of communication? I never said that i don't support Spotify's decision to ban music they deem offensive but one has to wonder why the sudden change. I don't listen to Spotify or the music they now banned but i guess they already gave them a platform long before. I'm curious why they did that in the first place. They use an excuse to ban them that apparently was not in place before.

I don't think people fully appreciated the existential threat of a president who believes there are good white supremacists. The effect of Trump's inability to see the difference emboldens KKK sympathizers and their disgusting hangers-on. What we are witnessing now is the societal reaction to the threat.

A threat that existed since 1940 and what did the Nazi's accomplish after that? Sorry to say this but Nazi's are not a serious threat to the U.S. and never were. They are just the new bogeyman and people fell for it. The rising gang violence and drug epidemic i would call a existential threat but please focus on a tiny minority with what 20k members scattered all over the U.S. Most Trump supporters are not Nazi's and people should really quit lumping them in with the few idiots. Who am i kidding. It makes the other side feel superior now that they can freely accuse them of being Nazi sympathizers as well. Be careful what you wish for.

originally posted by: growler
a reply to: icanteven

It's good business and a show of love of country over profit.

and some awesome marketing for everyone involved.

trump fans have shown themselves to be not the brightest sparks so are probably downloading spotify and paying a subscription in anger and, while they cry into their keyboard that their new favourite genre is being removed get their ears blown off by some obscure band getting their first royalty cheque.

That's another good way to look at it. Another behavior which the dim bulbs are probably displaying: Subscribe just to cancel and then forget to cancel. A win-win!

a reply to: FauxMulder

Why is it so hard for people to understand a private company can do what ever the F## they want? If you dont like it, then dont patronize that business.

If it were the government censoring someone that would be a different issue.

But it aint.

Not really. Censorship is censorship. Sure they can do what they want, but what they are doing is censorship.

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: icanteven

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: Shamrock6

The comment about the DailyStormer implied that i frequented that site for some odd reason. Perhaps a failure of communication? I never said that i don't support Spotify's decision to ban music they deem offensive but one has to wonder why the sudden change. I don't listen to Spotify or the music they now banned but i guess they already gave them a platform long before. I'm curious why they did that in the first place. They use an excuse to ban them that apparently was not in place before.

I don't think people fully appreciated the existential threat of a president who believes there are good white supremacists. The effect of Trump's inability to see the difference emboldens KKK sympathizers and their disgusting hangers-on. What we are witnessing now is the societal reaction to the threat.

A threat that existed since 1940 and what did the Nazi's accomplish after that? Sorry to say this but Nazi's are not a serious threat to the U.S. and never were. They are just the new bogeyman and people fell for it. The rising gang violence and drug epidemic i would call a existential threat but please focus on a tiny minority with what 20k members scattered all over the U.S. Most Trump supporters are not Nazi's and people should really quit lumping them in with the few idiots. Who am i kidding. It makes the other side feel superior now that they can freely accuse them of being Nazi sympathizers as well. Be careful what you wish for.

I don't lump all Trump supporters in with white supremacists. But I will continue to call out people who enable the white supremacist movement to grow. That includes Trump and his winks to the supremacist right.

a reply to: seeker1963

Fahrenheit 451?

That would please some on all sides of this stupidity to no end.

Burn the book. Burn the book. Soon to change to... Burn the author...!! Burn the author!!

So spotify, twitter, etc... have decided that they will decide our thoughts for us? How fitting. Since many of us, far too many, have all decided to become sheep anyway. All we need is our Judas goat to follow right on into the slaughter house.

Good to see. This whole thinking for ourselves is so very over-rated. Who needs it?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: FauxMulder

Why is it so hard for people to understand a private company can do what ever the F## they want? If you dont like it, then dont patronize that business.

If it were the government censoring someone that would be a different issue.

But it aint.

Not really. Censorship is censorship. Sure they can do what they want, but what they are doing is censorship.

Yes it is.

Wal-Mart doesn't sell dildos.

Censorship.

Good thing we have capitalism and there will be other places that will gladly sell this music.