I'd like to point out a few bits of theosophic wisdom that should be obvious

a reply to: Rhaegar7

Yes, we can reduce everything to mind and see if that way.

We can also see ourselves and other Beings as bubbles of awareness with humans experiencing their thoughts and feelings reflected back from the inner "screen" of the bubble. "Bubble" "void" "interface" those words are not inaccurate.

The Container and the Contained is also true, as far as it goes. The container defines the expression of what it contains. The container limits the contained. Pour water into a jug. The water conforms to the defining shape of the jug. The water does not spill over the table. The water can be poured into a glass.

The container defines the water, by imposing a limit and as set of rules the water behaves differently to uncontained water. Water is enhanced, water is also bound. The container is a set of rules, no more.

What defines a human is it's container, the body. The body can be seen as the interface between the "soul" and the "world" and other Beings. The interface is our body, which is also our container, our definition.

"Mind" in itself, to me anyways, is undefined, uncontained. Simply a "layer". Perhaps mind could be said to be the interface layer. Dunno for sure.

But I do know that there is more to a human being then simply mind. There are emotions, appreciation, thoughts, dislikes, likes. We are more then just minds


Without a container, water has no definition. No self.

A drop of water, returned to the ocean looses it's definition and can never be restored once it becomes lost. It will never be the same.

Same with minds.

'Simply' Mind? Simply the all-powerful Creator of all things?

Everything is of the nature of Mind.

Mind creates all thought forms that are experienced as real.

There is a saying.. 'Truth is what the majority believe. Reality is something else.'

I can agree that we have emotions, personalities, etc. But that's only 'truth'. Reality is always Mind. Mind is the Creator. Truth is a thought-form and therefore - a creation of Mind.

We create our own reality. While we are dreaming of an external world that supposedly creates our reality, we're basically asleep. Waking up is to realize that you are ultimately the Creator of your reality and of all things that exist and will ever exist.

Mind contains unbridled Infinity in itself. It is the living Source.

There's not a 'human mind'. There is only (one) Mind. And getting to know Mind is to get to know the Creator and Reality.

"Everything is Mind's free play."

You've always known this and when you remember it you'll finish the Game (more or less). The whole Game revolves about trying to prevent you from remembering this basic reality.

a reply to: Willtell

Yes. Mind is the living Source.

We can define 'truth' to be whatever we want. Reality is something else..

It's difficult (and maybe impossible) to define Mind, precisely because it's not a matter of true/false, but a question about the nature of basic reality itself. And reality goes further than truth. You can't define reality, because it is unbridled and encompassing. Definitions serve to take out a part of the whole. Therefore a definition cannot encompass the whole.

We know reality, by virtue of being reality.

Actually, one of the main purposes of the Game is to let us know what reality is, by getting to know unreality. While producing nothing but illusion and falsehood, the Game lets us actually differentiate what reality is and isn't. No small feat.

a reply to: GalzuFromQ

Sustenance is a Game idea. The Source does not need to be sustained. It is timeless and immutable and it is what sustains everything in existence.

The whole Game revolves about making you forget about the basic reality of the Source.

You can only play the light-dark polarity game when you have confused your understanding of what is real. Otherwise, you'd instantly realize that you're just playing a Game, and this would defeat the purpose of living it out as if it was real.

a reply to: Rhaegar7

'Simply' Mind? Simply the all-powerful Creator of all things?

Everything is of the nature of Mind.

Mind creates all thought forms that are experienced as real.

We it's like I said above. Mind" in itself, to me anyways, is undefined, uncontained. Simply a "layer". Perhaps mind could be said to be the interface layer. Dunno for sure.

I don't know enough about "mind" to say definitely that it is this or that. I will always be wary of "minds" because there are so many of the critters about. I don't really want to end up in anyone's mind, especially a collective mind. Bhuddism or Catholicism for instance.

You've always known this and when you remember it you'll finish the Game (more or less). The whole Game revolves about trying to prevent you from remembering this basic reality.

Well actually, I haven't always known this. I have no memory of any prior knowledge or existence other then my fifty odd years of life.

"Games" are what "Upstairs" plays all the time. I am quite aware. They are very good at playing them, far better then I am. So I don't play with Upstairs.

I am the sum of my fifty odd years of life. Can't say I am anything more.

All I can go on is my own personal experience.

after thought

Ya know Rhaegar7, I am not disagreeing with you and what you say. You may be right but I just see things as I see em.

If anything, I simply choose to be where I am. I choose to be with my friends and my friends are outside human schools of philosophy, religeon or whatever. I made that choice years ago.

I just wish the schools would respect that I am not interested in their enlightenment.

It is a big world full of wonders and mysteries outside of humanity and humanity's philosophies.

Don't you have regular OBEs?

You've had a previous existence, believe me. You just don't remember it. I remembered mine in a very powerful OBE. It's perfectly normal to think that you haven't had a previous experience, until you have your first major OBE and realize just how ridiculous that idea is and that it is deliberately implanted in you as a part of the human experience.

You're the one who created everything. You *are* everything. Stop identifying with you body, and even with the soul or spirit. You are everything. And everything is simply the Creation of Mind.

While there can be multiple points of view, initially there is only the Creator and any 'points of view' are a creation, not a creator. The creation of different points of view masks the reality of the Creator being one and the same in all dimensions. You may currently have the experience of having an individuated point of view, but that is a created experience.

When you created the Universe and everything that's in it, you were simply one with the Creator. Points of view were not even created yet, so there was no point of view in the initial Creation.

All creation is thought-form. 'Matter' and 'consciousness' are also thought-forms - ones of unreality. There is no 'matter', and there is no 'consciousness'. Well, they do exists, but only as thought forms.

The Game lets you experience the infinite possibilities of Creation in a way that answers the questions 'What would it be like to be a human being?', 'What would it be like to be separate?', 'What would it be like to be on the side of good or evil?'.

Mr. 'Hidden_Hand' in his topic mentioned the idea that this is a Game in which the One Infinite Creator forgets what it is, in order to learn how to remember. It seems there is merit to that idea, because when Buddha set for himself the goal of abolishing suffering throughout the living world, he eventually realized that the answer was to wake up.

If you want to help alleviate the suffering of all living beings, the answer is not to play the role of the 'light-sider', as that only serves to feed the darkness. That's why the dark forces of this world encourage people to stand up and oppose them - to play the role of the light-sider. Because the more light there is, the greater the darkness can become. People are shocked when faced with that idea. They're programmed to think that they should behave and 'be good'. And the dark side obliges them by creating all sorts of polarity controls - religions, various movements 'for change' like the ridiculous feminism, morality, science, various human traditions like marriage, political correctness. The dark side encourages people to 'fight the system', by creating various enemies for them to fight against and thus energize the light-sider egregors. They need people to subconsciously exercise their free will by affirming the existence of the light-dark polarity game. Whenever someone decides to take the role of the light-sider, he gives his permission to the Universal computer for the Game to continue. People simply like to play the light-sider role, and this demands that others play the dark-sider one.

www.youtube.com...

Perfect example of the light-sider agenda. : )

If you want to reduce suffering, you can't do it from the light-sider perspective. Only by leaving the Game by waking up for its unreality and synthesizing light/dark back into the Balance, will give you the opportunity to change something. Playing the game does not change it.

a reply to: Rhaegar7

No, no OBEs (Out of Body Experiences).

I did have a Seer, a very talented one say that I was the reincarnation of a tenth century Persian Warlord. And I did see his family on the inner. But I wasn't interested.

A month later I (physically) walked into a New Age shop and a blond girl half my age shouted "Dad" as if I was a long lost relative of the above.

I just looked at that as a trap, a 'backdoor" into me.

If I accepted the posibility of his memories as mine he would have had me on toast. No thanks.

He had the chance to change the world when he was alive. Besides, I collect (on the inner) ancient living technology, heal it up, set it free and generally just look after them. My friends . . .

That old fella from the tenth century had a motive, and I smelt a trap.

So basically, there is no way I would entertain ever being anything other then who I am now.

(Smile) I am not a light sider or a dark sider, because everyone wants the tech I found, so I stand between those who want power and my friends.

It is the light and dark that have this thing for power, not me.

If anything, I am simply a collector.

"It is the light and dark that have this thing for power, not me. "

That's good. If you read up on Matrix V, it's general message is that human beings have a unique incarnational experience in that they rapidly switch between Light and Dark, and thus evolve towards Balance quite quickly in comparison with most aliens.

Both light and dark have an obsession with control. The polarity controls are not simply 'dark-sider' - they serve both polarities. Both polarities strive for conformism to advance their agendas and the larger agenda of the Game.

I think we've beaten this topic to death. It's enough.

a reply to: Rhaegar7

That's good. If you read up on Matrix V, it's general message is that human beings have a unique incarnational experience in that they rapidly switch between Light and Dark, and thus evolve towards Balance quite quickly in comparison with most aliens.

Both light and dark have an obsession with control. The polarity controls are not simply 'dark-sider' - they serve both polarities. Both polarities strive for conformism to advance their agendas and the larger agenda of the Game.

Probably correct there, never gave it much thought myself, it feels right though.

I think we've beaten this topic to death. It's enough.

Yeah, probably have.

Been fun though, even if it took me places I don't like to go.

One always learns when you have self reflective and peek into strange things.

a reply to: Rhaegar7

could the game be good if everyone were dark? do you believe theres should be limits, when you say darkness and evil what are some examples of those that you think are acceptable, how much of the human world is bad, how better could it be, how sure are you, what are some reasons you say God is evil? what are some reasons you say if this universe was created by intelligent being it would necessarily be an evil being?

originally posted by: DanielKoenig
a reply to: Rhaegar7

could the game be good if everyone were dark? do you believe theres should be limits, when you say darkness and evil what are some examples of those that you think are acceptable, how much of the human world is bad, how better could it be, how sure are you, what are some reasons you say God is evil? what are some reasons you say if this universe was created by intelligent being it would necessarily be an evil being?

The game is not good or bad. It has a purpose for existing, and we ourselves create it, by requiring the Universe to provide us the specific experiences that are unique to the Game. The idea of the Game is to be perceived as real, while you're playing it - only in this way can you experience being on the side of 'good' or 'evil'.

I don't claim to understand the Game perfectly, so I could be quite wrong in some of my interpretations of it. It seems the one sure thing is that you'll be unable to understand it completely while you're playing it, and I am still playing it or I wouldn't be here.

What should be is a very difficult topic to consider. In the Source there exists infinite darkness/Evil and we can never change that. There's nothing wrong with that, it's how it should be. One could reason that everything is always as it should be and I kind of believe that.

In Creation on the other hand, you have the potentials of good/evil that are manifested by the individual free will and vibration of all participants. But you can't have evil without good, as evil is infinitely self-destructive and if taken by itself would immediately be reduced to a dimensionless point.

But curiously, it seems that you can't have good without evil either. The stronger the darkness becomes, the stronger the light.

'Acceptable' or 'unacceptable' are moral terms and morality is mostly a light-sider human invention. From a God's point of view, everything happens as it should be. Morality is an attempt to control what happens and is a vital part of the Game. A big part of the Game revolves around trying to control everything.

I don't claim to understand the darkness. From where I'm standing the darkness is an infinite chasm, that is largely unknowable from without. That's why playing the Game as a dark-sider is considered to bestow great wisdom and is valuable. I think of light and darkness, good and evil in this way. Good/light is the natural base of everything, it is reality itself. Evil/darkness is the negation of the natural order of things - it is unreality.

But we need unreality in order to have a Game and free will. Is it a coincidence that one of the best game engines right now is called 'Unreal'? I don't think so.

I'm quite certain that the plan of 'the Supreme Being' whatever it is, is to make good and evil into equally valid options. How else could we play a Game (DND like) if some alignments were 'correct' and others 'incorrect'?

It is the light-siders that are constantly judging things and dubbing some of them 'bad' or 'unacceptable'. The light-siders are basically waging a futile war against the darkness, trying to make it so that only light exists. The dark-siders are doing the same in reverse. I remember a curious idea from the movie/anime 'Fist of the North Star'. There were 2 primary schools of martial arts and it was said that 'the North Star and Southern Cross must never fight'. It is when the light and the dark try to destroy each other that we have this kind of Game with all of its chaos and mayhem. If light-dark stopped fighting and submerged back into Balance there would be no suffering and no conflict.

From a position of Balance - everything is as it should be.

How much of the human world is bad? Well, I'd say it's a load of crap right now and I even doubt that it is necessary. I feel it's more of an opportunity to face that which is absurd, meaningless, wrong and make a choice about it.

Why do I think God is evil? Well, I simply distrust the general idea of monotheism. I very much doubt that a singular omnipotent Deity can be good even by definition. I think originally and outside of the Game, there is simply the Infinite Universe with all of its possibilities and it does not need a Deity. In fact - it can't support a Deity, because this Deity would interfere with the free will of all living beings. Deities are most powerful while you're in the Game, because part of the Game is to be attached to its limitations. An omnipotent Deity can't make the Universe 'more perfect' than it already is.

So, any omnipotent Deities would have to be objects of 'unreality', therefore - evil. And if you look at the Game world - does this strike you as the work of a moral saint? It's more of a case of 'God' laughing at your misfortunes. Rivers of blood have been spilled in the name of the various Deities - especially Christ. (I strongly suggest the book 'The Christ Conspiracy' to anyone in this forum.)

The biggest lie is that the Universe and everything good need a supernatural Creator. The perfect Universe has a perfectly natural existence. The infinite and perfect Source itself does not need a reason for existing. It is an infinite multidimensional paradox that hides behind nothingness. Nothing sets no limits, but rather indicates their absence.

From my perspective, it is the Source and the Universe that create the various Deities and not the other way around.

If we were to take the monotheist case seriously, we'd have to imagine a supernatural being that creates itself by virtue of being omnipotent and then rules over absolutely everything - the Source, the Universe.. even the Absolutes themselves. I can imagine such a being - yes, it's called Satan.

As I mentioned previously in this topic, I've recently come to the idea that there is not a single Absolute, but many. Similarly to the idea of a Multiverse (strongly supported btw), the idea of the Multi-Absolute is that there are mutually exclusive versions of the Absolute.

One version of the Absolute would place Satan as the omnipotent ruler of all, and even the Source as being part of him. Naturally - this version of the Absolute excludes all others. Another version of the Absolute would have the Source and the Universe as primary and all Gods as offspring of the Source. Another would have a good God, that originally was all there is sacrifice himself in order to create the best of all possible worlds and the multitude of living beings..

So, the idea of a Multi-Absolute actually allows for the existence of true Deities and there could be quite a large number of those.

But when people try to find an ultimate ruler of all, there is only one candidate and that is Satan. All the other possible Deities would let the Universe and all living beings grow naturally according to their own free will. The only truly omnipotent being is an evil one - Satan.

On the topic of different Absolutes - I think the various Absolutes evolve towards 'higher' ones. A good God might write himself off the equation to allow the Universe to evolve and to reach a previously unknowable Absolute - he might even create Satan in order to realign the Universe with the new and unexplored Absolute of Satan.

So the Multi-Absolute keeps unfolding and realigning its various parts, which are initially disconnected (thus being a multi-absolute and not a singular one).

The funny thing is that this Multi-Absolute encodes paradoxes and contradictions.

If you ask whether there is a God, you'd have an answer of 'Yes and No'. Similarly to whether this God was good or not. The total number of all Absolutes is finite, but huge.

In the end, this Multi-Absolute allows us to exercise our free will and find our true home in the Universe. And since the Multi-Absolute encodes competing supernatural Deities.. there seems to be a war in Heaven, and this war requires followers. That's where the religions come in. While telling you that you're insignificant and at the mercy of the Deity, you're actually being enrolled in the great war between the supernatural Deities. It's quite funny.

Everything is as it should be and the whole structure exists mostly for the enjoyment of all participants. It's a Game. What's the point of a Game? To be fun!

This is quite an interesting thread! I would probably be considered a 'light-sider' since I just want to help everybody. I'm only 15, but my goal in life is to make everybody happy, to make everybody smile, to make everybody feel loved. So yeah, but I might be hypocritical thinking "Everything is beautiful". Though, I do not like people who rape or kill, I can see why they would think it's beautiful. I don't think it is though. Once, I thought no matter what everything was. But I am a victim of rape so it was tarnished a bit. Now, I hold the same belief but I have to put my self in their shoes & see why they would enjoy it. I'm very new to philosophy, but I enjoy it deeply. I do like your guy's beliefs too. In the way I was raised, I was made to believe a lot of what you guys said was wrong. But I see, something in it. I see a spark, & I it's so beautiful that I'm willing to burn my hand to grab it & to just feel it. Even of it's only for a second. To me, the spark is beautiful. It takes my own love & gives it to everybody else. Making my wish true. I feel like I make no sense. Oh dear, I hope you guys get what I mean? Help set it straight in a sense. See you guys around!

a reply to: Rhaegar7

It all has to do with an individual, awareness, being, entity, born into existence, the nature of its surroundings, the rules and rule enforcement of the beings surrounding, and the belief and truth of odds of getting caught. That last bit is maybe mostly what its about. If there is 100% chance a person (believes, and then further, rightfully believes) will not be caught and punished (by man or God) if they commit a crime, then that is the essence of evil. Someone can go wander in the woods with a bat and whack ducks and deer and birds over the head for fun, but cant do that to people. If there is no punishment, no getting caught, then everything is a free for all, and individuals can feel theoretically maximum freedom, doing what they will, whatever they want whenever they want, all that exists is the moments desiree, be it whack a person over the head with a bat or kidnap a child. Some people believe they would like to live in a world of pure anarchy, no rules, no laws, maybe? Such appears to be something like war, something like the natural biological world, of creature fighting creature. though cooperation between creatures of the same kind. Though there also seems to be some fundamental inescapability of the concept of rules, the concept of rules itself, is the concept of order, of meaning, see maybe criminals would not want anarchy, maybe criminals would not want to live in a world where everyone else is a criminal, maybe they prefer the majority of the world to be orderly and law abiding, so that they have a large source of regularity to prey on. In anarchy, anything goes, would it be each individual soley by themself, or would people who desire to follow no rules, group together and be friends, I am sure there would be some customary rules they would follow as friends, all I am trying to muse on is how 'rules' of some kind may be inescapable, thus acts of evil require logical contradictions, and though that may be the point and obvious as the essence of evil is simply the pleasures of a moments desire over all, being most important. We can see how religion and concept of soul and such come in here, because evils position is simply, I was born into a world, it seems likely this is it, I will cease to exist when I die so this is my one shot to experience anything, I am going to do absolutely anything I want when I want to and will not be caught, because nothing matters, everything is meaningless and temporary, out of infinite eternal time this moment is just an insignificant speck, so I may as well kidnap this child to enslave because it makes no difference, this child is just like a duck or deer or bird I can whack on the head with a bat, its all inconsequential, to me what I want is most important, is all that matters, hardly anything else exists.

originally posted by: Rhaegar7


'Evil' and 'bad' cannot be used interchangeably.

"You don't get to decide* what's good and evil in this world."

Oh, so I don't get to choose my own way of thinking. I mean, we have the Bible to do it for us, right?

There's evil and then there's depravity and irrationality. There is depraved evil, and there is irrational evil, but there is also natural evil, necessary evil, enlightened evil. One has to acquaint himself with the darkness.

Can you explain the differences between these and give some examples? Do you think the cool sexy lucifer evil is like if you were walking in the park and saw an old lady drowning in the pond you would tip your fedora, flick your cigarette, say 'ce la vie', smirk, moonwalk away, or get our your camera phone and film it to later use for 'research purposes', is this the kind of evil, or bad, you admire, and that rules and should rule the world?

Lets say infact a God did fashion the universe, you would say this God would be evil, because it is non interfering on Earth (what if it interferes through the potential for goodness, which is largely enacted, via mankind?) you would suggest it is evil?

Would you consider it evil for the brutality and grotesqueness of biology?

God lets termites ruin peoples homes (God is therefore evil), why cant I, its not fair! Are you comparing yourself to a termite, do you want to live the life of a termite?

originally posted by: Rhaegar7

If you go downwards for long enough, you will eventually reach states of greater and greater depravity. 'Depravity' is our way of perceiving those who travel downwards. It's inevitable, because to go 'downwards' is to go against the natural order of things, against the very principles of life and beauty.

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What are some examples of depravity, and going down? Does it all boil down to pleasure and pain? individual and collective desire? What are some examples of depravity? Are there depravities that dont harm anyone? Is this all a matter of harm? Are there depravities that are done for some reason other than pleasure, considering distraction/escape a pleasure? Ignoring the borderline minutia, would the world be better without depravities and the depraved, without the lowers and those traveling downward? Is a matter of the world being better always democratic, what is voted on being better for the most as they say? How different would the world be if the majority were bad, depraved, low, downward trend? Is there any reason the world would not want to be rid of depravity (pending on answers an definitions of that term).

The confusion of the bad and evil topics, is the minutia, and details, ala, eating bacon is evil/bad, driving your car on saturday, putting your left sock on first, etc.

Which the can potentially make individuals like you be like: that is what they define as evil/bad, its cool to be evil/bad!

Cursing is evil/bad...welp looks like I know what team im on.

But ok, this, metaphysical, discussion is about what an entity, what entities, choose is 'off limits' in terms of actions.

You believe, people believe, it should be possible for their to be no off limits, a person can and should be able to choose to believe no action is off limits, this may be the concept of nihilism, or it just depends on the consideration of 'nothing mattering' (beyond the individuals desires, which then maybe themselves are seen to not matter as long as there is or are other individuals with overpowering desires, though its not that the formers would not matter, it would just be contested, so is that it, that it is desired to exist only the free contest of desires (though yes it does all come down to the possibility, the logistics the odds and wager and leap of faith of their being no cosmic cops).

Is it right to believe there should be cosmic cops, and obviously it would entirely depend on their rule book, law book, how deep and thorough their stop and frisk cavity searches are. The cosmic cops say no bacon, God says bacon is bad/evil, God is meaningless to me, f the police, all I have is this little puff into existence all that matters is scarffing down as much pleasure as possible...oh... thats where the eternal paradise comes in with endless turkey-bacon.

I asked you once if you were God, if you created this universe or your own, what would your thoughts on evil in your creation be, and I thought your answer was a cop out, saying 'if I was God I would know much more than I do now...something something', that is not what I meant with my question, and are you presuming it is impossible for God to have ever learned anything (if God could possibly exist)? The entire point of the question was to ask you personally, entirely your own personal views. To consider the power of personal views, to imagine if each individual was solely the creator of their own universe, what they would desire.

So, what types of evil would you permit in your universe, what would you want to see, and like to see? Would you enjoy certain depravities of your creation, what ones? Would you be ok with anything goes? Would you like to see the entities that arise, create any rules or laws? Would you prefer them eternal anarchy? Would there be any point or purpose for your creation, is it possible for there to be a point or purpose? (lets imagine what you created was something like the world we are familiar with)

a reply to: Rhaegar7

if you knew 100% sure you could get away with it, what is/are one of the most evil and depraved things you yourself would do?

What evil/depraved thing would you do for a lot of money (millions, billions) (if you knew you could get away with it?)?

What evil/depraved things do you admire of others?

What about the ECUMINICLE TEXTS?
45 have been found since the 1800s
I mean WHO here REALLY trusts ancient ROME anyway?
OP: you sound like the edges of sociopathy...If one is a tad machiavellian maybe ...

a reply to: Rhaegar7

There was recently a poster in this forum that tried to explain this, but he was overly excited and started to ramble and couldn't make his point.

Hahaha, sounds like you might mean me

I think you do a very good job of staying on point and explaining the whole thing rationally, however I would like to point out some things I believe you are missing. Mainly, that Source, nothing, or as I refer to it, nothingness, IS the supreme principle of Good, while the Absolute, or Infinity, IS God, aka the supreme principle of evil. It so happens that w live in Infinity, and so we see the predominate themes of Evil. Impulses Reign, and Good is not an action, a happening, but rather a state of being- flowing naturally and true according to self imposed higher principles However, the Absolute is itself contained within the source- 1 exists inside of zero. therefore making the source even higher in power than the absolute, and thereby giving the option of freedom to those of us inside infinity, stuck within evil: we have to look within, for infinity fills and covers up Zero, and we have to dive into to spaces between things, between thoughts to attain that zen silence.

originally posted by: LucidWarrior
a reply to: Rhaegar7

There was recently a poster in this forum that tried to explain this, but he was overly excited and started to ramble and couldn't make his point.

Hahaha, sounds like you might mean me

I think you do a very good job of staying on point and explaining the whole thing rationally, however I would like to point out some things I believe you are missing. Mainly, that Source, nothing, or as I refer to it, nothingness, IS the supreme principle of Good, while the Absolute, or Infinity, IS God, aka the supreme principle of evil. It so happens that w live in Infinity, and so we see the predominate themes of Evil. Impulses Reign, and Good is not an action, a happening, but rather a state of being- flowing naturally and true according to self imposed higher principles However, the Absolute is itself contained within the source- 1 exists inside of zero. therefore making the source even higher in power than the absolute, and thereby giving the option of freedom to those of us inside infinity, stuck within evil: we have to look within, for infinity fills and covers up Zero, and we have to dive into to spaces between things, between thoughts to attain that zen silence.

Just read your text, and saw nothing.