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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Trump won 46% of the vote overall.
He (barely) won with a razor thin margin (less than 2%) in four states, MI, PA, WI, FL.
That razor thin margin is what gave him the Presidency in the Electoral College.
His Electoral vote totals are lower than any President's of the modern era except GW Bush.
These ... are simply facts.
He did not have anything approaching a "mandate" and he did not have a "great victory."
The suggestion that 55% of Americans don't matter because they "live on the coasts" is simply absurd and, not to put too fine an edge on it, anti-American.
Based on what we know now, Trump won the election fair and square. But for god's sake, any of you that still understand what honesty is ... don't pretend he won big or speaks for "all Americans."
Swing State Margins -
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2016 Presidential Election Results USAelectionatlas.org
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: carewemust
I don't know about that, if there is a McCain connection.
Sessions did not need to recuse himself, I think that
was a mistake. However, he could unrecuse himself.
And he should.
Lynch needs to be fully investigated.
Oh.. I didn't know he could UN-recuse himself! I don't think President Trump knows this either, or it would have been in one of his "Sessions has let me down!" Tweets.
But, it may not matter, because AG Sessions has shown no appetite for going after former officials. I think they all used to drink and go to the swamp's steam-rooms together.
originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Greven
Your entitled to your opinion, however these emails
must be viewed in light of the entire scandal, starting
with the fact that Hillary Clinton was under a criminal
FBI investigation when Lynch and Bill Clinton met
clandestinely on her plane.
Also there are many facets to this FOIA, starting with
the first denial for the FBI that there were no records.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Greven
They killed the story by their failure to report on it in any depth. Hence the "pressed into service" comment. As the exchange states only Fox News is going to cover it because other media outlets decided to avoid it.
Are you blind? How are you not understanding this?
Obviously you didn't read the NYT email or my damn quotation of it; a White House correspondent was pressed into service by being put on a story that wasn't about the White House - note how WaPo is using National Security correspondents? That's where the story is under. See what the NYT reporter is asking? Does that sound like he's avoiding hard questions to you?
WHERE in the exchange does it say ONLY FOX NEWS is going to cover it? You have now made a claim, prove it NOW, quote and link the EMAIL that SAYS JUST THIS or what you THINK says that.
Also, here's the 'avoiding the story' WaPo:
How everyone looks bad because Bill Clinton met with Loretta Lynch
Th e Lynch/Clinton tarmac tête-à-tête sends the message
Attorney general pledges to accept FBI and Justice findings in Clinton email probe
What was Bill Clinton trying to accomplish in his tarmac meeting?
Attorney general declines to provide any details on Clinton email investigation
This is what Loretta Lynch is thinking now
FBI interviews Hillary Clinton for more than 3 hours in email probe
Justice Department closes Clinton email probe without charges
FBI recommends no criminal charges in Clinton email probe
House Republicans grill FBI director Comey on Clinton emails
W ho had the Worst Week in Washington? Bill and Hillary Clinton.
These are just articles and opinion pieces on WaPo mentioning it within the week following this email exchange - totally avoiding the story uh-huh.
Thank for all those WAPO articles did you find any of them from msm TV news, you know, CNN or the big three Lib channels or even the MS L S D 's as we like to call them?
The OP and Xcathdra claim that WaPo and others were trying to bury the Clinton/Lynch tarmac meeting.
The plethora of stories from WaPo following that rather suggests otherwise, don't you think?
Honestly I have no idea what you mean as it is completely unrelated to the subject at hand and the reason for why I posted those links. This is not particularly difficult to discern if you read my post.
I recall the OP said ALL but FOX of the MSM buried it and WAPO isn't even MSM that the regular man reads. Deflection fail. MSM buried the story, period.
originally posted by: mkultra11
Only Hillary supporters look the other way on these message boards. They are the purest form of poltical shill. Just read their posts. Even Bernie supporters who have no love for Trump are all over this email story and Seth Rich.
Why would they need talking points for a mundane visit to talk about grandkids? Why would their sycophantic media drones ask for ways to spin the story?
Clinton received almost 4 times as many votes than Trump from counties that reported more registered voters than voting-age citizens in California. Take that away and Cali would be red.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
Swing State Margins -
Washington Post
2016 Presidential Election Results USAelectionatlas.org
Nearly one dozen California counties had more registered voters on their voter rolls than people eligible to vote living in their county, a new Judicial Watch letter has revealed.
The conservative watchdog group sent a letter to California Secretary of State Alex Padilla on August 1 on behalf of the Election Integrity Project of California. The letter threatened to sue the Golden State if they refuse to comply with the National Voter Registration Act, which mandates voting precincts maintain the integrity of their voter rolls by taking steps to maintain their accuracy.
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced it sent a notice-of-violation letter to the state of California and 11 of its counties threatening to sue in federal court if it does not clean its voter registration lists as mandated by the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA). Both the NVRA and the federal Help America Vote Act require states to take reasonable steps to maintain accurate voting rolls. The August 1 letter was sent on behalf of several Judicial Watch California supporters and the Election Integrity Project California, Inc.
In the letter, Judicial Watch noted that public records obtained on the Election Assistance Commission’s 2016 Election Administration Voting Survey and through verbal accounts from various county agencies show 11 California counties have more registered voters than voting-age citizens: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles (112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo (111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo (110%).
In the letter, Judicial Watch noted that Los Angeles County officials “informed us that the total number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144% of the total number of resident citizens of voting age.”
Under Section 8 of the NVRA, states are required to make a reasonable effort to remove the names of ineligible voters from official lists due to “the death of the registrant” or “a change in the residence of the registrant,” and requires states to ensure noncitizens are not registered to vote.
originally posted by: burntheships
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
Swing State Margins -
Washington Post
2016 Presidential Election Results USAelectionatlas.org
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: soberbacchus
Actually it does. It is a break down county by county and who carried that county. We dont use a national popular vote. We have 51 individual popular votes (50 states and DC). Clinton won the popular vote in all the states she carried and Trump won the popular vote in all the states he carried.
Voters from California and New York dont get to nullify the votes from people in other states. The electoral college was put in place specifically to prevent populace states from running over everyone else.
In the end Trump won more states and by extension, more electoral votes = He won and Clinton lost = get over it.