Sweden on the Brink of Civil War, National Police Chief: “help us, help us!”

I think they are in denial.

www.thelocal.se...


"When neighbours come together like this it helps create what criminologists call collective efficacy, the ability of a community to together control the bad behaviour of individuals by almost subconsciously agreeing on a common set of norms and values. Malmö University researchers Anna-Karin Ivert and Karl Kronkvist have studied the BID process in Sofielund since it started, and have noted an improvement."

Sounds like a social experiment gone wrong to me.

originally posted by: KeithCooper
www.thelocal.se... take one look at Swedish newspapers and see this posting is total BS. There is no panic, nothing happening in Sweden...just more hate mongering.

Oh the irony I just figured I'd look at your link and here is what I see.

A row erupted after a senior Swedish Democrat tweeted that politician Kahin Ahmed, who wrote that the party's anti-immigration ideology had no place in the suburbs, was "not welcome in Sweden".

So apparently something is going on I guess. Apparently democrats are trying to restrict immagent's and apparently Jews as well. So saying there are people unhappy there seems appropriate.

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Yeah its interesting. When people go on about how great socialism is, look at Sweden, can we now say that is garbage.

I mean, if its not immigrants, it must be all of those socialist systems.

It will be fun to watch some on the far left have to struggle what to blame, open borders or socialist type policies.

Jesus f Christ. Is Chicago and Detroit socialist ? How about Brooklyn NY or Compton CA ? Are those socialist areas too ? Sweden and the rest of Europe is heaven compared to those #holes.
Crime and poverty rates in "socialist" Sweden compared to the USA are laughable.
Do you even know what socialism is ?

did the Germany Muslim refugees thing lose appeal, now it's Sweden. Norway next?
'pandemonium in Norway' maybe by September?? and hospital doctors running for help because of refugee Muslim...

"On the brink"... again sounds bad to be constantly on the brink for so long, or was that another country "on the brink" the other month

originally posted by: odzeandennz
did the Germany Muslim refugees thing lose appeal, now it's Sweden. Norway next?
'pandemonium in Norway' maybe by September?? and hospital doctors running for help because of refugee Muslim...

It will be whatever country that stupid American right wing echo chamber decides. First it was the UK, than France, Germany now it's Swedens turn to get smeared by dumb American hillbillies

a reply to: WUNK22

I think at this stage those useful idiots are clearly the enemy and can go on the pile where the invaders end up. Good riddance, too. Traitors will get theirs and they are on the wrong side of history.

There will be a snap at some point and when it happens I would not want to be a muslim in Europe, or even any western developed nation. I used to wonder why the heck the Jews never left Germany or surrounding Europeans countries when they could, before World War 2 and now I feel as though we're seeing the same complacency here in the islamic community, only dressed up in a rather unbelievable arrogance.

This is getting out of hand. I know we're #ed economically (thanks, Stefan Löfven) (I'm swedish). But we're not "on the brink of civil war". And as I said before, no-go zones IS NOT NO GO ZONES. It's an area where they need two police cars instead of one, they will still go there.

Or is it maybe, just maybe, that you all don't like muslims?
If that's not the case, let us compare your black minority to our muslim minority:

US:
"African Americans are the largest racial minority, amounting to 13.2% of the population"
"African Americans now constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population"
"A new analysis of 358 mass shootings in America in 2015 found that three-quarters of the victims whose race could be identified were black."

SWE:
"Muslims in sweden are 4,6% to Swedens population 9 800 000"
"Incarcerated people in Sweden totals in 5 000" It's the grand total of ALL inmates, that's 0,05% of the population.
" Mass shootings in sweden In the 36 years between 1960 and 1995, fourteen such occasions were recorded" thats 36 YEARS against your 1 year.

So please tell me again how we are on a brink of a civil war, and you're not.

a reply to: Waalter

Well said....

I was talking to a Swedish friend of mine about this......and he was totally perplexed

He had no idea what the hell I was blabbing about 🤓.....

So far has he is concerned all is normal and good....no problems

Not sure where this scare-mongering story has come from...or the purpose of it.

So....I call FAKE NEWS

a reply to: Asktheanimals

Are you saying that socio-economic developments don't include government expenditures, jobs or housing?

It includes everything done in the recent decades, which boils down to austerity cuts and privatisation. See my other post with a rough synopsis of some economical extremist, the type of propaganda used to sell neocon crap.

They really thought austerity works, now we see the chief of police himself raising the points we mentioned for years. The public sector is going down, crime is on the rise and the "no go areas" are part of a policy, in which the police simply isn't up to it's task due to a lack of funds.

These refugees are not self-supporting. Nobody is funding them except the Swedish taxpayers.

Not true. There's EU Money in the budgets, primarily tax-euros from the bigger member states.

EU budget 2016: EU boosts funds for refugee crisis and development to historic high – good move, say ONE and Oxfam

EU states might get budget relief on refugee costs: officials

How many refugees do you think a small population like Sweden can support before their economy tanks in debt?

I dare say the money is least of Sweden's problems.

This national perspective isn't correct with regards to EU funding. And the consequences after decades of wrong developments are not Swedens problem alone, many member states struggle due to similar issues with failed austerity policies. Things are about to change, Schäuble is as good as done by now.



So we have a chief of police on stage with a speech, which we didn't find on jihadwatch or the other sources in the OP. Why? Cause PEGIDA Denmark took those comments out of it's original context to support it's own agenda.
The chief of police clearly stated that this isn't about refugees and the 'civil war' narrative is obviously another clickbait hyperbole. He didn't say anything close to that - he was getting at "the next 10 years" in order to turn this development around.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Yeah I couldn't find his speech anywhere. So that makes me suspicious this is being takem out of context.I did find something else well looking however. The police chief is being asked to step down according to a UK paper.


www.express.co.uk...

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
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So we have a chief of police on stage with a speech, which we didn't find on jihadwatch or the other sources in the OP. Why? Cause PEGIDA Denmark took those comments out of it's original context to support it's own agenda.
The chief of police clearly stated that this isn't about refugees and the 'civil war' narrative is obviously another clickbait hyperbole. He didn't say anything close to that - he was getting at "the next 10 years" in order to turn this development around.

Show me where in the op was stated this claim you are making now that "the chief of police said this could lead to civil war"... The chief of police did call for help, the statements about what is happening in Sweden could lead to civil war came form other sources mentioned in the op. If you would have had the courtesy of reading the op before responding you would have noticed this...

BTW, here is a video where the chief of police called for help.



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a reply to: dragonridr

Express... yeah, right.



Could be a piece of slander, he dared to criticise failed policies.

Anyway. We have his comments in RT and Ruptly vids and he speaks a pretty clear language after said conference, in the Q&A session provided. I don't think the Russians can edit his speech without causing international problems, which is why I'd take that without truckloads of salt.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Find an english piece and leave me alone with your selective translations.

If you would have had the courtesy of reading the op before responding you would have noticed this..

Yeah. You constructed this pile of crap full of disinfo and half-truths while we try to sort things out. Don't play the harmless victim when you run a jihadwatch PEGIDA Denmark spin-piece of crap, kiddo.

And the Nazis were socialists, right? Right... right?

originally posted by: PublicOpinion

Yeah. You constructed this pile of crap full of disinfo and half-truths while we try to sort things out. Don't play the harmless victim when you run a jihadwatch PEGIDA Denmark spin-piece of crap, kiddo.

And the Nazis were socialists, right? Right... right?

Wow... I didn't construct anything... Links were provided in the op, which you didn't read, and now you are making even more outrageous claims...

BTW, this thread has nothing to do with the nazis, if you can't stay on topic you can start your own thread and try to make up more false claims about an ATS member...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Who on Ceres cares about you? This thread is constructed on a lie, couldn't care less if you're the author of that lie or just a duped reader proliferating crap without any reflection whatsoever.

You should be happy that someone looked for the vid to find some truth after all. Yeah. No thanks to you though.

Come on chaps, I know a lot of folks are just salivating at the thought of getting to go out and kill all Muslims, but this story is pure bunk.

It's been thoroughly debunked in comments. Sweden is not on the verge of civil war. Socialism is not the downfall of western society as we know it. Jihadwatch is not a reliable source of unbias news.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
BTW, here is a video where the chief of police called for help.

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I found that one but it's so short it could be taken our of context. He could have been discussing the future or a specific city. So I'm reluctant to say this is fact. And Sweden is in trouble. What I will say is there stats on rape are rediculus. They are number one in the EU. And per capita the world.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Or you could cover the streets in pig #