Plot holes in the bible and what the motivation for it would be

a reply to: spy66


You said man was created on day 8, keep it simple.

I simply showed you in neither account is this true.

The first one states plain as day day 6 man, day 7 rest.

The second doesn't say anything about day 8.

What are you even trying to argue now?

originally posted by: xstealth

originally posted by: midnightstar
Heck he GOD him self committed the first sin I do believe its considered a sin to lay with your sister or mother or father or brother and who else was there to lay with in eden ?

God made man on the 6th day, read it in Genesis. God made Adam and Eve on the 8th day.

See if you don't study the Bible in depth it won't make sense to you.

Let me show you how it went down. You said this.

originally posted by: xstealth
a reply to: xstealth


God didn't make man on the 8th day, that was the 6th, you are incorrect.

Rested on the 7th because He was done creating.

I don't know what makes you think you are correct, but you need to read that again. I don't have to bother typing it, it's page 1 and everyone knows this.

I hope you are joking.

My reply number 1, the most simple and as accurate as anything I said.

originally posted by: Disturbinatti to xstealth
Genesis 1:26

Let us make man ....31...day 6.

Genesis 2:3 So God blessed the SEVENTH day and made it Holy, because ON IT God had rested from all the work that he had done in creation.

The second account doesn't provide cronology and doesn't in any way contradict the cronological sequence of the first.

Lots of good that "in depth" study has been!!

JK. We all make mistakes. I am sure you meant 7th.

And this is excerpted from the first account which is really one account not two, just different wives, or if you are a literalist it tells one story twice.


At any rate however you interpret it mankind was created on day 6 according to the Bible, and you asserted your knowledge of the Bible as superior because of "In depth study."

Let me ask you...

At which point did day 8 magically appear in between the covers of your Bible as the stated day of creation of man?

What "depth[s]" need the mind reach to conclude it's a good idea to claim more knowledge than you have, I mean, when I knew this in Sunday school, you don't know it, obviously you are fronting....why?

It's the first thing they teach you.

Page 1. I gave you the benefit of the doubt of having made an error but I can see it was true arrogance actually​.

originally posted by: silo13
a reply to: spy66

God was God before he created anything to be LORD of.

Once He'd created - He became LORD of all He created.

Same guy - enlarged title.

peace

No that cant be true. If God is done With his creation and resting. This means that all life that God had created was present in Chapter 1.

God would not form man a second time, and only as a "male" this time, not as male and female.
And then he formes all the beasts a second time and brings them before Adam to name.

Lord Gods creation is a total contrediction to genesis Chapter 1 from start to finish.


In genesis Chapter 1 it is mentioned that water was present:

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11. And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis Chapter 1 verse 20. And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

This menas that verse 5 in genesis Chapter 2 is a lie and a contrediction to what is mentioned i genesis Chapter 1.

So day 8 huh?

I am sorry you are stuck with that. I am laughing so thanks though.

Admit you were wrong, move on.

It's the smart move.

a reply to: spy66

Sorry wrong person

originally posted by: Disturbinatti
a reply to: spy66

So day 8 huh?

I am sorry you are stuck with that. I am laughing so thanks though.

Admit you were wrong, move on.

It's the smart move.

yes my mistake it should have said verse 8. But here they are again. It is written so it should be easy to understand.

verse 6. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

Verse 7. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

Verse 8. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

a reply to: spy66


Alright so you should have just said that.

And not tried claiming superior knowledge to anyone regardless.

Or complained about me correcting you because who would not?

a reply to: spy66


Although I read your message again.

You said on day 6 man.

Day 8 Adam and Eve.

You weren't talking about verses. Or were wrong again.

That'd be verse 7.

a reply to: spy66


The verse 8 you are talking about isn't even about man. Unless you think man is a firmament.

Why would you think you just dug yourself out of a whole when it got deeper? All that "in depth study?"


by Disturbinatti

The Bible is a mish-mash of folk tales, archaic laws for the government of bronze age desert goat herders, the inane muttering of relgious nutters and pseudo-history. Of course it if full of plot holes!

Try combining Grimms Fairy Tales, the domboc of Alfred the Great, the tales of Robin Hood and the prophecies of Mother Shipton and see if you can make a coherent, logical, narrative tale.

a reply to: AndyMayhew

We know you are not telling anyone anything they don't know. Waste your time all you want but people don't care about opinionated haters' words.

originally posted by: Disturbinatti
a reply to: spy66


The verse 8 you are talking about isn't even about man. Unless you think man is a firmament.

Why would you think you just dug yourself out of a whole when it got deeper? All that "in depth study?"


by Disturbinatti

It seam that you are not fallowing me at all. I am trying to tell you that there is a contradiction in genesis Chapter 2 compared to what is mentioned in genesis Chapter 1.

Have you read genesis Chapter 1 and 2 properly or are you just winging this as you go along?

a reply to: spy66

Don't bother wasting your time with me speaking rubbish.

I pray the Lord helps you understand His word as He wrote it, not how you want to interpret it.

peace

originally posted by: silo13
a reply to: spy66

Don't bother wasting your time with me speaking rubbish.

I pray the Lord helps you understand His word as He wrote it, not how you want to interpret it.

peace

I am not wrong. It is all written in plain text. Maby the lord should help you With Your Reading skill.

originally posted by: Disturbinatti
a reply to: AndyMayhew

We know you are not telling anyone anything they don't know. Waste your time all you want but people don't care about opinionated haters' words.

More of the same words and MO of Gnosisisfaith used in his over 70 ATS user accounts.

a reply to: AndyMayhew

Its interesting you would say that, there is an anime that was made in American that combined three separate unrelated shows into one. It was quite an interesting idea when you think of it from a story construction point of view. Robotech Now it is a different medium then the bible but it doesn't make the feat any less interesting.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: DiaJax
a reply to: TzarChasm

Within the context of this thread anything found in the book is to be taken as factual. (You'll have to suspend your disbelief.) This in itself doesn't generate a plot hole, but in combination with something else it very well could.

my point was that the quote in question was someone else describing god, not an actual quote from the head honcho himself.

my other point about liars still stands.

So your calling hearsay on the narrator of the bible? How do we know the Bible isn't written by God and he's describing himself in third person?

If your trying to be quite literal about this, within the context of this thread, only God would truly know what he has done and who he is. Therefore we are forced to believe that the narrator is God and his statement is to be taken as factual.

Or

If you take the regular suspension of disbelief related to stories with narrators that are omniscient, then we have to believe that the narrator is telling the truth.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Deetermined

From the beginning, it's been God's plan to allow people to make mistakes in order to learn from them.

So it’s always been part of God’s plan to make us suffer. Even though, being omnipotent an’ all, He could have made a world in which nobody and nothing ever needed to suffer.

Without suffering there is no free will and without free will you wouldn't have any choices. God never intended on making everyone love and worship him. It's a choice.