Baddogma's Other Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: Peeple

I can thoroughly recommend it.





#! I just watched that - can you even imagine being near that many people ever again?

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

I really suck at scrying.
Personally (embarassing private revelation ahead) I imagine having a big "Good Morning Gaia / Welcome to Earth" festival. With all my favourite artists, big bags of weed, UFO show and telepathic meditation circles...
I think the chances of that happening are approximately equal to an ordinary festival any time soon.

a reply to: Peeple

Perhaps it's not you, perhaps it's just that scrying sucks.

My son and his friends have music festival tickets and plans for the summer - I hope they go ahead, for their sake especially but also because the idea of a weekend to myself sounds like utter bliss after all this close confinement.

As a side or back note, after my silly-cybin diversion, I got back to reading the Majorie Cameron book and it is excellent - both in itself and by comparison to Ruck one, so praise where praise is due, I fully recommend The Wormwood Star by Spencer Kansa. I shall be sorry when it ends, it really helped provide me with the social context for the whole US-UFOlogy phenomenology which is still relevant. All these spheres of influence bumping into each other and rubbing off (Fnarr, fnarr) on one another. I think you'd like it - if you haven't read it already.

Quite annoyed though...I was going to order this yesterday...

It took Jason Colavito eight years to write The Mound Builder Myth, but the project seems tailor-made for 2020. It starts with multiple waves of a pandemic and ends with conspiracies, white supremacists, and a battle between science and superstition.

At the heart of the book lie the large earthen mounds that cover a vast portion of North America. The earliest of these, Colavito points out, "were standing in their solemn glory five centuries before the Egyptians raised their pyramids." They were built by Native Americans, but in the 19th century a legend took hold that a lost white race had constructed them. This manufactured myth didn't just ignore indigenous American civilizations. It fed into the theft and ethnic cleansing of the indigenous people's lands.

In this century-spanning work of U.S. intellectual history, Colavito describes how a determined few replaced the truth of who built the ancient earthen mounds in North America with a long-lasting "monumental deception" backed by many political leaders, including several U.S. presidents. The lie has now been exposed, but Colavito argues that the "constellation of ideas" that supported it persists today.

reason.com...

...but got side-tracked. Just went to order it and it has more than doubled in price overnight.

Pah!

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

I haven't, always looking for interesting books. How do you find these?

Fingers crossed things will go back to some sort of normal, must be really tough to be young. I just don't see it since nobody has an exit strategy. And we all pretend we're super surprised the virus mutates and as if it won't be a problem to adjust the vaccines... but it will not work.
So I'm kind of expecting next winter we'll act as if nothing ever happened. "Co-what? No no that's just the flu..."
That's what I kind of hope, add to the cognitive dissonance it's fine. We're past schizophrenic as society anyways.
We'll maybe celebrate our big victory in summer and just forget about it.

But I don't know I feel so empty. Have a hard time to find anything that could be interesting. But Colavito looks like a real conspiracy...maybe

a reply to: Peeple

I think the "conspiracy" is more media spin in that, two or more people did not actively conspire to undermine the Native American history and claim the mounds for a lost white race, as we can see from European literature at that time generally, that's just how white European elites saw themselves - as ultimately "right" and "ancient". Evidence that contradicted that had to be countered. I think two or more people certainly did conspire to steal the land from Native American cultures though and that this "belief" in a lost white race was a convenient tool with which to argue that as a legitimate "right". Same way in which the Nazis Racial Hygiene office dug up texts from the same period to justify their actions in Poland, and elsewhere, applying their solution to the Slavic Question.

The Colavita book I found because I was on this thread...www.abovetopsecret.com... went on a whole side trip into Wisconsin history and these fantastic earth mounds that are all over North America from the Old Copper Culture - and that got me wondering about what Native Americans had to say about "aliens" so I typed "Native Americans and Aliens" into Google and Bob's yer uncle, that article popped to the top. Answered the question in a round-a-bout way but explained much more besides.

Google may be an "echo chamber" but I try not to be.

That said, this amazing article plopped itself on my desk top yesterday, presumably because of my interest in the "witch" Majorie Cameron combined with my interest in buried "treasure" and Germany...

aeon.co...

His book, which I would very much like also, is well out of my price range but I have managed to screen-shot about a quarter of it from various sources...I don't think it is a very big book for the £50 plus it's going for, just a limited academic print-run bumping the costs up - but Google is still clearly very much my friend - algorythmically speaking. We find things together.

I agree, I think we are past the schizophrenic society stage but some of us are in a kind of come down, the kind you flail against but can't fight. I don't particularly want a return to normal, not even a new normal, I think that changes happening now, an increased level of introspection perhaps is highlighting those things about us, ideas; frames of reference, that need to die because they are killing us. There is some advantages, I think, of some people having more time on their hands than before and ideas are consequently bursting to the surface. It's all a bit pendulum swinging a little too far at the moment but it'll swing back to an equillibrium we can all get into the rhythm sooner or later. Time and tide wait for no man, we gotta keep up or we "die".

I've got to go now but there is an excellent quote that I wanted to share from the Cameron book with you - gotta go to work now though - running late already...where does the time go? Will post it later.

Take care.

ETA quote:

“The new decade brought closer encounters of a not dissimilar kind in the guise of the author Peter Moon, an ex-Scientologist fixated with Jack and Hubbard’s Babalon Working. As an upshot of their meeting, Cameron was woven into the time-travelling tapestry of the Montauk mythos...Cameron initially enjoyed the attention Moon’s far-out theories gave her, as they only added to her legacy and legend, but according to William Breeze, who introduced the two of them, the meeting of minds was a short-lived thing: ‘Cameron eventually wrote back to say he was too extreme for her. She was willing to entertain some pretty loopy notions, but I think she had a good sincerity sensor...You can always find data that looks good when forced together to support a thesis, but it’s very poor logic, very poor research. That’s not the scientific method. That’s not Magick. Crowley says right out there: “Magic is the art of causing change in accordance with the will.” It is science pure and simple. So why would we want to indulge in these sorts of retrospective mediaevalism? It’s the reason they didn’t have an enlightenment until they had a scientific enlightenment. It’s because they were incapable of reasoning outside of these boxes. If you’ve already got it in mind the results you want, you’re not going to do the science. So deciding this is what you want to believe, and then looking in the past for plausible evidence that you can sort of tweak to connect up, is the easiest thing in the world. All the paranoiac conspiracy people do that.’”

P288-9 Wormwood Star: The Magical Life of Marjorie Cameron by Spencer Kansa.

Science and magic are sides of the same coin, and each can be applied to the other. They are both tools to get us outside the box, free of the echo chamber.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

...the "conspiracy" is more media spin in that, two or more people did not actively conspire to undermine the Native American history...

isn't that what I'd call a 'point of interpretation'? Who is the media, in your opinion, if not two or more people conspiring to write (contemporary) history?
The only thing that has changed from Mormons, via Nazis, to BJP is that supremacy has gone global.
Anthropocentric views still prevail.

Goethe's Faust wasn't a magician, if anything he was a pseudo-alchemist looking for omniscience through experience.
But that's maybe slightly irrelevant, Joseph Smith used two seer stones to hunt for treasure before he started his religion, goes back to Adam and Eve and the snake doesn't it?
The dance between good and evil, one wants you to grow and learn, the other to crawl and serve, which one is good which evil?
Prometheus who gave us fire (lightbearer Lucifer) or the one who created us for his self-aggrandizing purposes Zeus?
It's not an easy question. Jesus called himself Lucifer kind of, without the church and the following 'be your own priest' protestant split the enlightenment wouldn't have been possible...
But that's sidetracking your train of thought, sorry.

The pendulum swings indeed. Kind of funny you use that too. Who knows what people will find forced to inspect their navel, the abyss inside...lol


I'm with Crawley on this one: art not science. Art is 'letting the bird fly' you know your craft, you will it into being but the outcome surprises you every time.
Science is repeating the same thing, get the same result, find an explanation.
Magic (or magick whatever) has as far as I'm aware of not once repeated results or bothered to find an explanation.

Excuse my lacking enthusiasm, that's a general problem I currently have don't let it influence your trajectory, your thoughts are for me currently the only entertaining thing on the internet.
...so thanks & sorry


Do the songs I post work?

a reply to: Peeple

Yeah, that song certainly does work for me. It's very pretty.

I think we're in serious trouble if I'm the most entertaining thing on the internet.

Don't worry about throwing off my trajectory, I'm totally dancing to my own beat at the moment. It's eclectic, with room for pretty much anything to pass through right now. I'm just feeling my way the best I can.

Let me put it another way. Science is just what we call magic when we "know", until we "know" it remains magic. Therefore what is science, was once magic (and can still be magic if one chooses not to "know" or that information is withheld). It's merely an extrapolation on the old Arthur C Clarke quote but with the caveat that the transistion from magic to science generally, historically, involves a period of enforced secrecy and/or relgiousity for a variety of purposes relating to power and prestige, as well as self-preservation.

Johannes Dillinger, the author of the article I linked to, differentiates between religion and magic by institutionalism. Religion has them, magic does not but, with the "discovery" of shamanism as a human technology we do find the creation of a proto-institution in the form of a secret or inner society alongside it, and indeed within it, an inner-inner, of Medicine. In most societies, religion and medicine are co-mysteries right up into the modern or industrialised stage of social development, but that pattern of behaviour gives birth to sciences as exoteric disciplines as each ritual can be better standardised and the results repeated.

Sciences are the pieces of the magic that we have identified and now know, the whole remains though greater than the sum of it's parts.

Or something like that. Still just musing.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

I went into shut-down-mode a bit, that's why. And your light is on, lol, you are interesting.

... Heartless Bastards found them by coincidence they're great.


Your science reminds me of the Baghdad Batteries. Kind of maybe, but I also put magic more in a spiritual realm and science is material... it doesn't work for me that way, but I know now how you see it and don't see a need to change anybody's view.

Religion is magic, I mean exactly.* Rituals, energy charged items, down to breaking the barriers of the mind like the charismatics with speaking in tongues and such.
And 'repeated' is a stretch because the starting point is the individual to have a scientific repeat you'd need identical minds that's not ever going to happen.


A lot of science is still guessing why it works. Like electricity. Gravity. Evolution.
And that's not a popular opinion, but the truth.
I really would love to know how the molecules made the jump to RNA. There's no answer.

*sans the worship, the hierarchy, the submission... so I just got the institusionalised bit I think. Religion is magic to control the masses, magic is religion to free the individual.

a reply to: Peeple

Lol...Baghdad Batteries wasn't quite what I was wanting to convey - but there we go, we once again prove you to be in the right about the limitations of language to describe certain aspects of our human experience. I suppose it depends what you mean by spiritual. It's a term I would only use to describe the essence or va-va-voom of something, the 'life' perhaps, not something un-living but I appreciate that that is not how others perceive the word. It's kind of loaded with beliefs.

Apart from a brief dalliance with a oujia board sometime around adolescence I have neither performed nor practiced any form of magic or magical ceremony. I don't take part in religious ceremonies unless it is entirely necessary, however, I do prepare for those ceremonies and treat the altar, chalice, pall, veil, burse and corporeal with the respect they are due symbolically because I have taken the time to understand that meaning and fully understand my role in the "ritual". I have, similarly, worked as a lab assistant. It's not all that different a role excepting that in the latter there is a greater need for precision and a more demonstrable outcome. Either way, my view of "magic" is much academic than practical, and my experience of religion more professional than personal.

This is the passage I was referring to from Dillinger's book...

“How shall we define ‘magic’? Anthropologists have suggested a number of definitions of the most ambiguous term. Most of them do not help to decode Old European culture since they work with categories that distort the image of the early modern period. We have to take into account that Old European culture was by and large a Christian culture. The differentiation between religion and magic was as crucial for early modern Europe as it was difficult. Any anthropological argument that suggests identifying religion with magic must necessarily eclipse important ideas held by the people of early modern Europe?...

The best and most practical way to distinguish between magic and religion is the one suggested by Durkheim and Mauss. It is particularly attractive because it is implicitly historical. According to Durkheim, the difference between religion and magic is that religions create institutions, whereas magic does not. There are religious organizations with a certain structure and certain norms. These institutions help to sustain the religions. Magic has no institutions or organizations. There is, as Durkheim once suggested, no magical church. The only rules that magic knows are very simple. They are more or less on the level of the ‘rules’ or ‘norms’ that we might find in a recipe. They are descriptive in character, not normative. As magic does not have any organizations, institutions or binding laws other than the prurely technical instructions, it does not exist in the plural. It would not make any sense to talk about various different ‘magics; as we talk about various different religions. To be sure, we could differentiate between folk magic and so-called High Magic or learned magic. But this differentiation would be on the same level as a differentiation between the customs of popular Christianity and the learned theology of the Christian churches, not on the level of the differentiation between say, Christianity and Hinduism.”

Magical Treasure Hunting in Europe and North America by Johannes Dillinger

So he's referencing Durkheim's position (girardianlectionary.net...) - I don't necessarily agree with that because I would argue that Durkheim is a little dated, I would argue that you can compare magical traditions internationally in comparison with the local religions, ie a historical tradition of magic exists in India, so we can compare that with Hinduism, and then cross-compare that with pre-religion societies such as the aboriginal Australians but that's because we're not limiting our understanding to Old European culture. Academia has a tendency to work in boxes, it can be a little religious like that (according to Dillinger's definition).

As I said, I'm just musing on the opinions of others and still throwing around the Adam Curtis - what if we are all stupid - inspired thoughts.

If religion is "magic" to control the masses, how does it acheive that, what's the recipe that it uses to control the mass? How does "magic" free the individual?

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

In religion you accept your position at the lowest end of the hierarchy.
You, the ruling class, the priests, angels, a long time nothing, God. (Pyramid)
The only thing you need to work on is being submissive, accepting and enduring fate.
In magic you attempt to manipulate, order, direct everyone and everything to follow your will. (Upside-down pyramid)
Historically speaking, in the long gone days before Christianity people knew power was both magic and religion.
Like this

David's Shield. The key to true 'power'.

Now as society we near egalité, with protestantism, democracy, YouTube etc. it seems only logical and natural we go full circle from religion back to magic.
But yeah again, it's not what you'd think if you read those words only on their surface.
I think there's a plan behind it, actually, alas not 'man-made'.
So the circle I try to point out is more like a thin line, accepting there's something bigger & smarter organising the macrosphere, and at the same time being 'spiritual' practising magic in your own little monoverse of existence.
We talked about it before, right? How all spiritual teachings mostly are about absolute self-control?
And the only thing that matters about religion, is not the details, not the numbers in the words, just the essences which overlapp.
'Truth' is always where it 'concurrs' (latin-ish) the overlapping area.

I grew up with both. My Oma took me to church, I learned Tarot etc pretty early, I have performed rituals... what I learned from it all was just that none of it matters.
'It' takes place inside each and every single one there's no other need for symbols and rituals and all of that if you know all it takes is your focus.
A certain clean, pure self and the mind-set of a pitbull.
But... time will tell if I'm right on that one. lol


Spiritual = life ... interesting. Feels right, "concerning consciousness", life is that which has consciousness... true I'd say.

I sometimes feel the need to put a disclaimer on the stuff I write, everything said is entirely my own opinion, but at the same time that'd be redundant, right? What else could it be?
With you I probably don't have to worry about that...


Plus: I have a 'cool' witch-bord story. I was 14 or something, the mother of my friend had just died, we sat together trying to contact her, to verify she asked me the day of birth of her mother, which was right, but I might have subconsciously gathered that from the grave stone. Anyways my friend made a shriek and the glas flew off the table and slammed against the wall...

David's shield certainly appears to work for Israel, allowing them to commit countless human rights abuses with apparent impunity.

originally posted by: Peeple
'It' takes place inside each and every single one there's no other need for symbols and rituals and all of that if you know all it takes is your focus.
A certain clean, pure self and the mind-set of a pitbull.
But... time will tell if I'm right on that one. lol

That's pretty much where I am up to at this point. That's why you only get out what you put in. Garbage in, garbage out. And vice versa.

In the Anglo-Saxon tradition you have this whole concept of being "ridden" by a phenomenon, as in, or in my interpretation at least, "it" catches a ride on you - or through you - "it" is able to feel through you, see and hear through you...and it's pissed if you have nothing of worth to "give" it. Even if the "it" is an internal phenomenon, which is probably where I most lean towards, that element of the experience rings true and indicates an unconscious propensity to make connections, to run through our accumulation of memory and create new sub-sets of information.

I don't really think I know nearly anywhere enough to comment on magic in more specific terms, I have only really brushed up against it in pursuit of other things. Many ideas and discoveries are first recorded in so-called magical tomes, most can be described in terms of quasi-formulas, ways in which to create a pre-determined outcome for the purpose of entertainment or profit. Science was borne from many of these anciently copied recipes, science sadly though also has a tendency to turn the sacred profane which leads to disconnection with the whole, it's exploitation and degradation. Systems Thinking and Practice acts as a bridge to understanding how we can reincorporate that sense of sacred that clearly was in place for good reason (our present circumstances more than ably demonstrate that) back into how we manage our collective resources without descent back into superstitious chaos (though, looking around, that horse has already bolted I think...lol). So I don't know that it is so much as going back to magic as much as realising that we threw much more than just the baby out with the bath water and we need to look at the whole system in a similar way to those socieities that practiced what we define as sympathetic magic but part of that is a need to do the self work.

But that said, the way things are, right now, it's feeling dark, the stupidity of white privilege is quite the force to be reckoned with, it's like it knows it's dying and wants to take us all down with it because it's incapable of seeing the world any other way than as it's rightful inheritance.

I wonder if we should be fastening our seat belts because it may be about to get bumpy.



Not terribly cheery this afternoon. I should probably go and watch some Bob Mortimer.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

I wasn't talking about Israel. Just what the hexagram represents.
And I think we shouldn't talk about it, it's a touchy subject for me.
Just one thing, surviving in a world where everybody loves to hate you ain't easy.

Well the best riders are those who get the ridden to want to show off. Which just points towards 'it' not being that much better than most humans. As seen in all the bolting humans, the need for curb bits and blinkers...lol

...feels more like time to get an ejection seat with rockets...

But there are people with good ideas, there's just plenty of traps along the path. Simulation theory, anthropocentric views in general.
The biggest issue I know I have, so I assume it's true for others, is to focus on what you can't visualise. I like the word 'imagine' and equally hate it. I think it's symbolic for our little problem.
It has the image in it at the same time it alludes to something 'unreal'...
whenever I imagine it turns to fiction. hm
But 'it' is something that can't be imagined, even though it plays in your head it's not fiction. But when you visualise it to make it graspable, you imagine.

Know what I mean?

Sorry to butt in, and change the flow a bit, but I got the Covid-2 Pfizer vaccine today (first shot) and have thousands of mRNA shards racing through my blood stream. 4 hours later, no signs of anything, including injection! Talk about the Sheild of David!! LOL!

Anyway, cheese and bread at home to nosh n if I feel sick. And a root beer if the real stuff is too much!

And a free half day to have a burger and beer! (Welcome to my world Wuhan virus biatches!!) Woot!!

Ever clear, Dave!!

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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Nice. Part-ey!

a reply to: Peeple

I think we have discussed Israel before so we already know each others views on that. I'm good to pass over it. Just one thing from me though to go on the side of your one thing - remember about what we were saying about becoming the thing you hate? That's all. The rest we can brush under the rug and forget about for the time being - though I did read a really good article about the Israeli intelligence service and cyber-security start-ups.

Done.

Plenty of good ideas I know - another article I read about a company who are looking to re-green the Sinai desert, I think they are, aptly, called Weather Makers, the company that is. Great story...but sadly I can't remember where I read it - or did I dream it? Lol.

I'm not sure I do know what you mean. I don't "think" in pictures, can't visualise images in my head - I'm all "words" and feelings/sensations so it is more for me about that which I can "feel" but cannot "see", or indeed that which I can see but can't feel. That to me is what my "art" is about, what my "feelings" "see", it's just there, it has to come out and that feeling is sated when I can see it on paper and I am free of it. It's the craft side that requires my obiedience and discipline. I think that kind of aligns with what you were saying with magic.

Isn't fiction what you should expect from your imagination, being deceitful, as we've discussed, is part of the primate survival tool kit - story telling, creating a narrative that others can "follow" is one of the essentials of human leadership, it remains fiction until you can gather a sufficient following to bring it into reality - or if it was a bad story based on limited imagination and intelligence, to fail - I am sure we could pluck at examples of each in history. You need the investment of others to bring what's imagined into being.

Maybe?

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Well you put it in an image too, kind of imagine it on paper for the sake of processing, no?

It's just...

you can gather a sufficient following to bring it into reality -

I don't know if that's really a given I love fiction I don't feel an obligation for soul-fishing or group building.
Q has built a group it's something people share but 'reality' is still ... different, don't you think?

originally posted by: Peeple
I don't know if that's really a given I love fiction I don't feel an obligation for soul-fishing or group building.
Q has built a group it's something people share but 'reality' is still ... different, don't you think?

Sorry, as I said, I don't think I understood/understand what you were trying to convey, hence my reaching but you grasped what I was thinking along the lines of, I had Jim Jones in my head - that kind of saviour-seeking behaviour that gets people killed opposed with, say, the imaginings that made it possible to go into space or to the deepest depths of the ocean - ideas that took centuries, millennia really, to be made manifest - which is where the fiction side comes into it for me. That continuity of feedback between the fantastical and realism that creates "future" or the idea of what could be, etc. That was what I thought you were getting at I think.

Now I'm just a bit lost...so I'm going to go back to your Shield of David. I went Israel because it was blue and because you called it the "Shield of David" but you and I both know it is a much older symbol than Judaism's use of it, right? As that symbol, let's call it Anahata for differential sake, I utilise it prominently in two of the paintings I have shown you - structurally - and figuratively in all of the others. Where I use it prominently it is mathematically imperfect to grossly distorted not solely because I am mathematically imperfect or grossly distorted but because I was attempting to express something about that ideological dynamic in relation to myself. I often don't understand what I paint until after I paint it. That's why I differentiate it from craft and imagining a specific idea, going through a design and experimentation process (failure, failure etc, etc and to eventual success - one tries and tries).

With that in mind, in terms of writing, I was recently warmed by the report of Douglas Adams notebooks, and the revelation that he found writing to be excruitiating. Writing, even the smallest amount requires me to go to a frame of mind that is not compatible with parenting or rather with my style of parenting. I don't want to be partially absent at this point, writing requires that of me. Hence why I am currently focused on those creative endeavours that enable me to be present, the paintings stand there as a capsule of what I would be writing about if I could write. Shorthand if you will. Symbolic, I suppose. The A plus B that will one-day get me to C.

I'm not interested all that much in soul-fishing or group building either - perhaps the reverse. Lol. Not really. Much depends upon the environment, ATS being quite different to the environment I inhabit physically, it's like a holiday into an entirely different realm of reality. With it's US-centrism it's a bit like looking at a jelly on a plate, you can't help but want to see it wobble a little.

Gah...I think I've wandered off completely...I think we can return to "I'm lost" and I don't think I am comprehending what you were trying to say. Sorry.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Well I don't know how I can express myself any clearer than as I did and I hate repeating myself.
So a little analogy maybe.
Mother Theresa served her whole life, she went where she was send she accepted the task put on her shoulders. In doing so she had to build up her own philosophy we can glimpse at in the rare quotes about how suffering is necessary and such.
Catherine the Great, was given a husband she despised, killed him, took his throne and lived her life in tremendous luxury.

You philosophers are lucky men. You write on paper and paper is patient. Unfortunate Empress that I am, I write on the susceptible skins of living beings.

Catherine the Great

Mother Theresa had the pyramid on top of her, she was at the bottom handling filth, poop and misery = religion
Catherine the Great was the upside down pyramid, she and she alone decided the fate of many = magic, kind of.

The hexagram brings both together, everybody doing everything to make it all to the best of their abilities for everybody.
From an anthroplogical/social-evolutionary point of view, that's what the pendulum is swinging around, everybody accepts the pyramid with God on top is a thing and assumes the position of the magi to do all they can, because one planet, one blood, one fate.

I admit it looks a bit optimistic at this point, but ...it's like after WWII when everybody was still in shock and committed to never let it happen again, I am not saying we don't need a few more of these, even though I'd prefer we'd be better than that.
We're not. Not yet.
Sooo cockroach mode on, record it for the future.
It's a lesson of what hate and stupid do.

Another one last thing about Israel: Muslims living there do so quite content. The so called Palestinians, which is a through and through English invention, sold their land, lost it in a war and are not being genocided to this day, which shows a great deal of compassion, because frankly the unwashed illiterate misogynists prefer to buy and build rockets and guns instead of infrastracture, hospitals and schools just so they can blame the miserable state of their fictional nation on Israel.

Now we're done.

They're so good.


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