Baddogma's Other Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

Happy 2021 Everyone!

a reply to: Reverbs

"...avoid it like the plague..." that's funny.
If only there were hope the sequel will be better.

a reply to: Reverbs

Young out!!

So I am 75 feet from the fire pit outside that I had to stand next to last night just to drink beer. The clock and calendar rolls over and we can eat inside and drink beer and flirt with the pretty waitstaff and “elbow five” the manager and flip the bird at your favorite bartender and start laughing... so what is the real difference between days??

Yeah, the game’s rules sucks!!

You lose, game over. You win, uh, yeah, hey!, it is still game over!!

OK. TEOT’s first dumb ass theory of ‘21.

What if, like War of the Worlds, our local germs will be our saviors? We introduce a genetically modified common virus that infects THEM while, in an incredible short amount of time, we pass around the dutchie on the left hand side saving those who have not passed??

This would mean our leaders know that They are coming and have figured out a way to defend us. All while not telling us about Them or the Master Plan, because they think we are too dumb to know!

Sounds typical. And shortsighted. And human.

So, seems like a good dumb prediction (all respects to the people that we lost here in the real world, Don, this IPA is for both us having gone down this path, I will miss you brother! ). And like most of my predictions, sounds logical (trying to explain why the world suxs to meself), but probably wrong.

That is why I hate video games!!





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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

How did I never notice that the "B" in John B Calhoun stood for Bumpass? That's not the sort of thing I would've missed. No Siree.

"Our success in being human has so far derived from our honoring deviance more than tradition. Template changing always has gained a slight, though often tenuous, lead over template obeying. Now we must search diligently for those creative deviants from which, alone, will come the conceptualization of an evolutionary designing process. This can assure us an open-ended future toward whose realization we can participate."

en.wikipedia.org...





Also, I really enjoyed this...

There are many views, and each one has only partial information about the rest of the universe. We propose as a principle of dynamics that each view should be unique. That idea comes from Leibniz’s principle of the identity of indiscernibles. Two events whose views are exactly mappable onto each other are the same event, by definition. So each view is unique, and you can measure how distinct one is from another by defining a quantity called the “variety.” If you think of a node on a graph, you can go one step out, two steps out, three steps out. Each step gives you a neighborhood — the one-step neighborhood, the two-step neighborhood, the three-step neighborhood. So for any two events you can ask: How many steps do you have to go out until their views diverge? In what neighborhood are they different? The fewer steps you have to go, the more distinguishable the views are from one another. The idea in this theory is that the laws of physics — the dynamics of the system — work to maximize variety. That principle — that nature wants to maximize variety — actually leads, within the framework I’ve been describing, to the Schrödinger equation, and hence to a recovery, in an appropriate limit, of quantum mechanics.

getpocket.com...

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Reverbs

"...avoid it like the plague..."

that's funny.
If only there were hope the sequel will be better.

I do think it will be better, or.. it will go full on nutters, which might be interesting in it's own right.

So I'm living like a crazy face again.
It's fun and the money is there, so why not.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

The rule here is 9PM for alcohol at bars or restaurants. After that apparently everything changes. And then it just means I get free beer every night after work around 11pm anyway..

Your theory is one I've shared with you sometimes. Germs is one version. Another is the erased privacy and tracking everyone would show anomalies if someone else was walking among us lol.

I've had other versions of "maybe the bad guys aren't so bad and Aliens!" Over the years.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

I was talking total crap the other day, off by a full zero! 6 000 years ago not forty!

Anyhoo "Bumpass" hihihi
But seems true, dare to go new ways!

But why does it show up so often? First TEOT who "hammered it in" now you...

a reply to: Reverbs

Hope's the last one to die...
Or something similiar.

Was probably wrong but I am at my first coffee and don't care.
You know what I mean... Yes you do

#ing 'rona bs crap asshole dirt # # #....
It's just... I'm over it, can we do something else and talk about something else 21?

a reply to: Peeple

Ideas in good currency?

helen.wilding.name...

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

But we, with our dreaming and singing,
Ceaseless and sorrowless we!
The glory about us clinging
Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing:
O men! it must ever be
That we dwell, in our dreaming and singing,
A little apart from ye.

For we are afar with the dawning
And the suns that are not yet high,
And out of the infinite morning
Intrepid you hear us cry —
How, spite of your human scorning,
Once more God's future draws nigh,
And already goes forth the warning
That ye of the past must die.

Great hail! we cry to the comers
From the dazzling unknown shore;
Bring us hither your sun and your summers;
And renew our world as of yore;
You shall teach us your song's new numbers,
And things that we dreamed not before:
Yea, in spite of a dreamer who slumbers,
And a singer who sings no more.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Reverbs
#ing 'rona bs crap asshole dirt # # #....
It's just... I'm over it, can we do something else and talk about something else 21?

Absolutely Yes!
I'll think of something new and interesting to say next time I'm here. That old # is soo 2020.

a reply to: Peeple

Since the discovery of key brain neurotransmitters at work in the digestive tract, it’s become normal to speak of the gut as a second brain. Digestion, after all, is a process requiring intelligent decision-making about whether to assimilate or excrete what a body has consumed. But if the gut functions as a second brain during digestion, then the brain is a second gut during REM/dreaming. Dream digestion sifts through short-term memories of recent waking experiences to determine what will be released and forgotten, versus what will be assimilated into existing stable memory networks to become part of who we are. In the process, negative emotions are downregulated while psychologically nourishing experiences are symbolically integrated into our sense of self. As suggested earlier, our very consciousness is morphed in REM/dreaming. One of my favourite psychotherapy cartoons depicts a therapist telling a patient to ‘have two dreams and call me in the morning’. Today, research suggests that dreaming functions as an endogenous form of psychotherapy.

aeon.co...

We are the self-regulating organisms that know we are self-regulating organisms.

Assimilation be damned!

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Well that might explain why I was organising bronze vessels into a map drawing of a grave all night... lol ... that's Shang that's Zhou ...
(I'm not further along in the book yet)

Wasn't it the egypts who thought the seat of the ka was the belly? Right? They had multiple words for mind-ish things with different seats?
"Gut" is maybe to vague in the end? I mean the Flora und Fauna of the column is surely different than the stomach spleen liver gall union?
Just a thought.

Is that the consciousness stuff "in your feed" you were talking about?




Plus: you know what's funny, tomorrow is my birthday and the day after that is always a holiday in Bavaria, today I read for the first time in English that's called "epiphany"

So if I ever solve the riddle of God, aliens and consciousness nobody will have to change anything to commemorate the glory that is my mind

Birthday Song


Feels silly she's holding a guitar but I kind of love her voice

a reply to: Peeple

I think thats unconsciousness, isn't it?

And Ka I thought was the "breath" that the goddess gave to the infant at birth and then flew off with the last exhale?? I suppose it could have lived in the gut.

There is some research that demonstrates a correlation with a spasmodic gut and schizophrenia/psychosis. Both 'brains' switched on and vying for dominance perhaps. There was certainly an element of that in my 'experience' with 'good' food almost popping out at me. There was in fact a period toward the peak where it was clearly mostly trying to get the point across that I needed to eat and what. Fasting is something I can't do too well anymore either, the sensitivity is way too great.

Many happy returns of the day!!

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Now you made me look it up

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Most ancient Egyptian funerary texts reference numerous parts of the soul: Khet or the "physical body", Sah or the "spiritual body", Ren or the "name, identity", Ba or the "personality", Ka or the "double", Ib or the "heart", Shut or the "shadow", Sekhem or the "power, form", and Akh or the combined spirits of a dead person that has successfully completed its transition to the afterlife.

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The kꜣ (ka) was the Egyptian concept of vital essence, which distinguishes the difference between a living and a dead person, with death occurring when the kꜣ left the body. The Egyptians believed that Khnum created the bodies of children on a potter's wheel and inserted them into their mothers' bodies. Depending on the region, Egyptians believed that Heqet or Meskhenet was the creator of each person's kꜣ, breathing it into them at the instant of their birth as the part of their soul that made them be alive. This resembles the concept of spirit in other religions.

The Egyptians also believed that the kꜣ was sustained through food and drink. For this reason food and drink offerings were presented to the dead, although it was the kꜣw within the offerings that was consumed, not the physical aspect. In the Middle kingdom a form of offering tray known as a soul house was developed to facilitate this.[11][12] The kꜣ was often represented in Egyptian iconography as a second image of the king, leading earlier works to attempt to translate kꜣ as double.

wiki

So fits totally with your experience... weird?

a reply to: Peeple

Hmm...but I suppose the 'spiritual' consequence of fasting is pretty well established - yogic, buddhist, christians all have some fasting involved to 'ignite' of the divine spark, in the Eleusian the fasting prepares the body for psychoactive element in the kykieon (??I think I made that up but the 'ceremonial' and possibly ergot laced drink) - maybe that was less to do with vomit prevention and more to do with a pure communion between gut and grain?

ETA it's Kykeon!

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

I thought that too, but honestly could be much more profane?
If you imagine the situation from a hunter/gatherer social being, wouldn't be that awesome if the whole group gets super bitchy if you find nothing for days which naturally would happen sometimes.
So instead of blaming Joe and Hannah they wander around enjoying the majesty of the forest with a smile on their face.

And from a spiritual practicioner's perspective it's all just to learn self-control. Almost everything is in principle just about that.

# yeah! I just got a little piece of the puzzle!

a reply to: Peeple

Haha...if they're wandering hungry around the forests enjoying only it's majesty I believe Darwinianism would deal them their due hand. Plenty that can be eaten even in the scarcest of times in the forest, even bark fills your belly if push comes to shove in the short term, it's the times and spaces where there is no forest that causes the shortages. The getting from A to B or the not being able to get to B for instance. Or A not being able to sustain them any longer. This is where a belief in leadership becomes a matter of spirit, and of investing in the vision of someone else. Those great leaps of faith. The kind we are now in some ways facing.

But yeah, with a few occupationally specific exceptions, eventually it's all about being the master of one's self. Self-discipline.

Did you have birthday cake?