Baddogma's Other Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Life's a disease and ends always deadly. No cure.
I hope you don't mind me ramble? Because I think it's a legitimate question, what's happening afterwards? How much does this /*circles hand above head (that was topic before, what was it?) matter?
Is it a series of many thousands trials? Or is it one fault you're out?
Painkillers can kill you. Very unpleasant if you survive that. Humans survive really a lot. And if you just move on, switch in a new meatsuit and start fresh... well would it be worth it?
A tiny adjustment of angle with which to look at it and it changes a lot.
Nobody knows of course, it still would be just a guess.
That's why I prefer to focus on the bits happening in our reality which just funk the mind. But what if Phillip is right? We are where they go when they die and the other way around. How horrible, you expect heaven and get this.
I really can't get over that and haven't even read the book.

a reply to: Peeple

You're asking the guy with messianic tendencies to answer that!?!

I was just making a b1tchy note about coming into work! I was not really thinking of deep existential thought at all; that is why quoted Tyler Durden from Fight Club! The guy who had a bunch of sucky jobs he hated and wanted to tear it all down and start again.

The Big Dirt Nap... the final frontier. One of the Great Unknowns. Why are here? Are we alone? Is there a God? What happens when we die? What the h3ll is Spam made of??!!

The only one I'm even semi-qualified to answer is: No, we are not alone.

And I think only God can truly answer what Spam is made of!!

Is that enough to deflect the deep thoughts?? I hope so because I'm finally getting healthy again and pondering the Big Questions is not the path I want to go down.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I just got this urgent feeling, like if we could almost at least figure it out now, it will be easier to swallow once it's revealed and the issue is how big it is, how many everyday experiences it touches. How manipulated we are. The huge number of different interest groups doing that. Because even in Germany someone knows. "A club" of sorts. But if government, global interests, one segment of the money machine... who knows.
Then we have the almost invisible permanent residents.
Metal orbs. Light games? Why is no one talking about blue beam (?) anymore. Now everything is a hologram, but in the event of a mass UFO sighting, how many would say they were holograms?
It's all very subjective on that step already. Some even deny the existence of planes at 9/11. And hopefully the real deal wouldn't make giant holes in city centres.
Pretty weird also: I have more faith in the righteousness of spacetime travellers than fellow humans.
But the pharaos aliens? I don't know... Jesus an alien? I don't know. There's no reason to believe they were.

But one I kind of love for the dark creepy-ness: those who worship them super hard, like the Indios, get taken somewhere save where they and their suicidal tendencies are in good hands.
Them is the gods and company. Then it looks like humanoid alien visitors, right?
Since they come here regularly to harvest anyways. The tricky part is you are not allowed to kill yourself you have to wait until you're on board. And then maybe don't...
That's the agenda behind the Occult world workers. Call the gods takes a toll. Poison in everything.
We are sacrifices in a blood ritual, but not because the gods want us to do that, but because one time they had pity and interfered now everybody thinks that's the way to do it.

Imagine the dramatic beaver here...

a reply to: Peeple

Divide and conquer is a time tested tactic!

If there were these devices that everybody had that allowed anybody, anywhere, to say anything, why that would be the ultimate! Groups, sub-groups, cults, CT, politicians, celebrities, wannabes, losers, winners, rich and poor, sober, religious, versus the stoned masses (who needs a proxy like religion when we can just prescribe opioids for the masses? Take that Marx!), in a free-for-all while being manipulated by "migrants" and rumors of war would be the Illuminati's wet dream!

Or maybe I'm having random computer problems and PO'd at tech just now? Idk for sure. A reason I dropped off there earlier today. Crashed a couple times out of my browser. Grrrrr.

Yes, yes, aliens. Orbs and Blue Beam. First, everybody is walking around looking down at their phones! An orb, unicorn, Venus on a half-shell could fly in her birthday suit and nobody would notice! I thought Blue Beam was holograms? Ohhhh! "Project Blue Beam" as in "project" like a "projector"! A holographic antichrist... any difference than what is happening now in the world?

Still, even if all that is a hoax or my rueful observation of an inattentive society, there are still things that fly around in the sky that people are seeing. Which makes me wonder what the heck is going on. Which makes me still frustrated (insert Avril Lavigne song here).

PS - I think it was a woodchuck that was being all dramatical but I'm a new comer to this interweb and social media (mediocre? Man, just on the turn of phrases today! New-ologism of the day: social medi-ocre! Not you of course, baby!)


eta: It might be a chipmunk (lol! I typed in chimp-monk!! Hahahaha...)

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I was just saying: to produce evidence good enough to convince everybody won't be easy. Imagine everybody jumps on a crazy synchronicity train, riding to biasland and it still supports and neglects certain topics. Guides you? Maybe...
Are the hormones and bacteria complotting with a shared interested in us behaving a certain way? Sounds easy. Regulate hormones levels through food and water, a bit residue in one way or another you'll catch for sure. Gender changing fish live downstream.
What if it's true and there is a man who sold the world? Or will be.
How many times did astronauts step foot on the moon? I remember three. Seems different to sooooooo many people. But groups different landing troops. 3 groups of astronauts on the moon.
Mandela? Too much fiction? Who knows...
See already little confusions makes you wonder.
....I almost drifted into a rant. Sorry...


It says "beaver"

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I imagine a schizophrenic epidemic. And to go with that many freaky coincidences for everybody. If you ask me it has already started. 2012? Who knows. Maybe earlier. Maybe later.
Earth goes into one of her phases. Which would be bad an event triggering a chain reaction.
Did Kim seriously threaten with a EMP? Is it even the right thing for it? Symbolwise? Maybe "aliens" would say we have to clean up our languages. I still would love to have a real alien friend.
Yes I know, it's just one out of many possibilities and in a classical way it's not that likely they are here...unless you've seen it.
You also have a messianic story to tell? Welcome you're one of so many.


Also I "feel" echoes of a boom. Is that shared anticipation? What is it?

a reply to: Peeple

I think if you defer a major event like 2012 you have to pay the consequences later on. It looks like it is time for TPTB's butt to cash the check they paid as a rain check. Three hurricanes with possibility of four, 8.4 M EQ (seen, 8.0, 8.1, 8.0+, this is the highest one from LA Times) in Mexico, Houston has *sunk* due to the weight of water from Harvey, the Pacific North West is burning (8 states are on fire), a plague of biblical proportions is about to be dumped in the Pacific because nobody is helping Tepco clean up Fuku, there are micro plastics in the drinking water (it is not just in the oceans anymore), and some guy with a funny haircut is trying to beat up the only quasi super power left (which is being run by a 70 yo business man who knows nothing about science),... well, if you were waiting for something to happen, looks like the time is now!

Space brother or no, dramatic Chimp Monk come save us now!



a reply to: Peeple and Meta-Caféterians

How's that for a rant? I say it half in jest but the other is sheer horror at we are doing both to ourselves and Mother.
As for other parts. My thoughts are "messianic" as if I matter or something! And what I think can save or doom us all, that is all I mean by that.

I believe I've been... uh, visited,... one clear memory of the after effects and leading right up to it--They are real. I don't really talk about it except to say it is not fun to have your memory taken and it makes me wonder what they are hiding by taking it. They have an agenda and I did not want to be part of it. I had to rage, as only a young TEOT could!, for them to leave me alone. By my late teens they did. Kind of sad but hey, it's my life to live, not theirs to tell me what to do! May explain my pet peeve of "being told to do what I am already doing".

That was a couple lifetimes ago. I think I have devolved since then! And re-evolved into something more suited for a life of perplexion. One foot in science I understand, the other in awe and wonders presented by universe. A strange mix to be sure but why strangeness and woo are things I can take in stride.

Happy Weekend Caféterians!

Peeps, it is not echoes of a boom but the shockwave before the boom. Anybody can hear the boom after the fact. It is the rare that get the shockwave!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Sounds a lot like daddy issues. We messed up, now rescue please.
It will cost. But what?
Who cares, right? Now or never.

a reply to: Peeple

Infirmed on the couch, I watched a lot of TV. Lots of reruns of ST:TNG. "The future will take of itself", has been repeated several times that I'm saying, "OK. I hear you! Let it roll".

The future happens with or without us. Like our past. I think it happened with us but then an ME pops up and I wonder.

No rescue necessary! You've got all the tools at your disposal. And you are prescient enough to realize *this* can't continue as it is. We'll be OK.

We are Riders on the Storm!!!

PS - While typing this up, listening to Jem. The song popped up, Wish I, it is a pseudo Reggae (Caribbean!) beat with the first lyrics, "Baby.... your sailing today"

a reply to: Peeple

Pssssstttt. Check your other thread!!

So ten years ago, when Vayenas proposed that the force that keeps the three elementary particles in protons and neutrons together is actually relativistic gravity, not strong force as universally agreed, Fokas was intrigued. If Vayenas were right, it would be one of the most spectacular breakthroughs in the history of natural sciences since Albert Einstein’s special relativity in 1905 and Niels Bohr’s model of the H atom in 1913.

Viterbi (usc.edu) - The Seven Secrets of a Beautiful Mind.

I'm off reading about the Riemann Hypothesis and run across one Dr. Fokas at USC (focus? Anyway, he is a polymath, engineer, medical doctor, and does not study math for 2 months out of the year to keep his interests up. He developed a protein folding method, and, solved a weaker version of another math puzzle that is considered more difficult than Riemann. I love what he says in the article, "Having either breadth or depth is a myth". H3llz ya!, sayz I (against I)).

Anyway, the above highlight was stated and now I am intrigued!

Had to share!

ETA (same source):

Fokas believes you can’t hold on to science with one hand and technology with the other so that you have no hand left to reach for the human spirit which he says is “the greatest expedition”

Peeps,

No OD, ok? I love you too much to not converse.

Let's sculpt the world together.

I can't do it without you. (no emotion).

I'm slow sometimes....

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I have no clue what od is so I searched

No. I can't promise you that.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

What if magic is real? What you focus your thoughts on. Make weird rituals around it to emphasise the importance. That's magic. You can't really perceive it, so you "invent" stuff. My favourite was still the falcon explosion with the tiny blurry dot, super fast and I would swear going behind the poles.
If you would have stood right next to it, what would you have seen without camera? Nothing. Just boom. But they searched the neighbouring competitor if they shot something at it.
It acts on its own terms. Is my point I think, nobody wished for that. Did you?

The thing that still bothers me with the kabbalah video I posted earlier, why 600,000? Is that an improvement to the guidestones? 100,000 more? I mean how much does one give to prophecies and eventually that's what we're talking about here. But what if these people secretly are in clubs?
There are many esoteric traditions. Not just the masons. With weird rituals focusing the thoughts of many on ...stuff, events.
What if your thoughts matter more than you think?

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

And what if the algorithm to choose the 500,000-600,000 survivors, suddenly presents them an entirely untrained dumbass as vital to the mission?
Who runs the show here? Humans? Or software? Will the humans obey the machine and accept this useless person, or will they overrule the machine and get a doctor more, or some one with a talent.

I can survive so much. I had so many chances to die. I'm a cockroach. *hehe cock....
Bring it on let's get it over with. Personally a less lethal option would be preferable, but if it's only a few hundred thousand and that's not debatable, who is better off? Those left behind? Or the ones the gods take. Or who just simply die, as our connection to them and the dead is really an important question.
I know you don't like that part.

Anyhoo... that's all one big if. "Do this and that, around 3:30 and we come" they... "aliens" say.
"10 steps to improve your life" ... "become allmighty in less than a week"... fun stuff. With the obvious problem, won't happen.
What's the gain in this pursuit of the philosophers stone, if there's not even an answer?
Who knows...

a reply to: Peeple

OD. C'mon. Overdose. Are you really a nurse???!!



There was a study the other day that said 40% of ants don't do jack sh# for the mound. Bees the same. And we think they are so industrious!!

F the Guidestones. And the pompous bastids that think that way! Like masser is ever gonna get off his fat arse and actually work.

What was I talking about?

Back to beer and Futbol.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I never said I'm a nurse I don't know why you think I am.
Enjoy your beer...

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Aren't we all a bit curious? Don't ever feel like you're not welcome, or your stories go unnoticed. I appreciate them. But stuff like that is something people say to me when they are drunk.
Is alcohol your poison? An occasional sleeping pill, or something or other?

Want to talk about something really sad? I have no positive vision. No nice dreams for future. The air is loaded everybody convinces themselves bad things are about to happen.
Like the jokers club around AugustusM. thread making the thing explode before launch...maybe it did. Should we organise a parade for them?
But was that really good? Did it even happen? Who knows.
Ramble with me. Baby

a reply to: Peeple

No, not alcohol, just beer. Big difference! One is to get you wasted the other is to enjoy. Usually with other strange mice around the water bottle!

I think you have positive vision but it not just for yourself. Caring about the NWO is not being negative! I feel that to be positive!

My view of the future changed thanks to ATS! I was lurking here when I read about Lockheed's nuclear fusion reactor. The thing made my mind race about the future. Where it would lead us. Where we could go. What we could do for each other. But mostly, getting off this rock. Hikikomori in space! (Except I did not know that term then!) When ever somebody says, "That would cost too much", that argument goes out the window when energy is dirt cheap. Manufacturing, not plastic junk, but durable, real valued goods, things that last you a lifetime, becomes a reality. The value of living rises for all. Even money would become rather pointless (or we all become millionaires which is already happening without cheap energy). What do you conquer next? I would say: health. Everybody living longer now a days anyway. Yeah, yeah, too many people. There is one way to go: up. That is what I mean by getting off this rock.

Life was kind of tedious until that day. I ran around hugging people (bar maids mostly!). I never do that. People thought I had taken something that sounds like "golly" and wanted some too!

Nope. It was just genuine happiness! Even I don't get to see it through being so old and everything (lol). You know, like they find a cure for an illness two weeks after dying from it--how's that for Ironic, Alanis? What was I talking about? Oh, running around happy about the future... well, a few years later, and still waiting, Lockheed. But has not turned me back into hating on everything. Just realize that it will take some time.

You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer!

--Frank Zappa

And that is why North Korea is messed up! I've never seen glorious leader heft a pint and drink to prosperity! I don't think they have an airline either...



ETA: Whoa! I went to hit 'Reply' and my mouse went to the right-hand corner and blanked my screen! It has not done that in a while!! May the woo be with you, always!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Haha I see

... talking about woo, what else do you have to tell? If people tell you their weird stories in waterholes. Must be a lot more.