Erdoğan's bodyguards in violent clash with protesters in Washington DC

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: 23432
Believe whatever you want to believe , doesn't bother me .

It clearly does given the last bunch of pages to this thread in which you keep replying despite constantly insisting others stop trying to derail with discussion of the Armenian genocide.

There was no Genocide , you have been duped .

Oh, well then. Nothing happened, nothing of a partisan nature being stated, move along, just move along.

I don't care, in this discussion. The issue is did these goons (can I call them turkeys?) violate the civil rights of the protesters? If so, toss them out of the country, or charge them, or just jail them. America ain't Turkey.

Let's not whitewash the whole thing either , innocent people got killed , murdered , exiled , etc etc .

Between 3.5 million 5 million estimated civilians Muslims/Turks also got killed too .

In this discussion , the police have neglected their official duties and didn't stop the protestors assaulting a Turkish spectator by throwing a megaphone to his head . This is it turns out was what started the reaction from bodyguards to go on offence .

Best defence is the offence .

I stood by the bodyguards , especially knowing that these lunatics have 18 assasinations attempts on Erdogan's life in last several years , I think bodyguards acted with constraint and just cause .

Bodyguards were doing their jobs and Erdogan ordered them to go on the offence .

They all left USA on the same day and I doubt their action would ever be persecuted in USA .

This was a staged event and a message to those who concerned : " Don't F with Erdogan " .

Signed

Donald Trump .

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: AutisticEvo

BUll#E. No this was because erodogen is a insecure little man who in his home country can have you killed for what the protestors were doing.

The protestors did not step on embassy grounds. As such the bodyguards were over stepping their boundaries.

ANd If you are a bodyguard you have to obey the law as well. You are not above it.

Erdogan is not insecure , he is the biggest balls the muslim World seen since last Ottoman's ; he has the backing of most muslims in the World and that makes him a strongst leader in the World .

Erdogan has dodged 18 assasination attempt on his life in last several years ; he comes from a district of Istanbul known for it's street figthers and Erdogan comes from the street .

I have no idea where you get your info but it is based on factual knowledge and misleads you to make incorrect conclusions it seems .

Protestors throw a megaphone on the head of a Turkish guy and police don't stop them ; only than bodyguards spring into action .

How do you know one of those protestors are not wearing a suicide belt ?

They have done it before , don't you know ?

a reply to: 23432

Obviously the cops didnt see a object thrown at erodogen and didnt respond due to that. I f the cops didnt see it then the bodyguards are in the wrong.

ANd you need to think here. you do not think those protestors were not searched prior to the protest by the DC police? If erodogen was going to be killed i twould had been a cop doing it or someone dressed as one.

If he is that insecure he does not need to be out in public.

Erodogen Is a weak leader if he cannot stand even a little criticism.

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: AutisticEvo

BUll#E. No this was because erodogen is a insecure little man who in his home country can have you killed for what the protestors were doing.

The protestors did not step on embassy grounds. As such the bodyguards were over stepping their boundaries.

ANd If you are a bodyguard you have to obey the law as well. You are not above it.

Erdogan is not insecure , he is the biggest balls the muslim World seen since last Ottoman's ; he has the backing of most muslims in the World and that makes him a strongst leader in the World .

Erdogan has dodged 18 assasination attempt on his life in last several years ; he comes from a district of Istanbul known for it's street figthers and Erdogan comes from the street .

I have no idea where you get your info but it is NOT based on factual knowledge and seems to misleads you to make incorrect conclusions .

Protestor throws a megaphone to the head of a Turkish guy and police don't act to stop them ; only than bodyguards spring into action .

How do you know one of those protestors was not wearing a suicide belt and wasn't waiting for an oppurtune moment to detonate it by Erdogan ?

They have done it before , don't you know ?

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: 23432
Believe whatever you want to believe , doesn't bother me .

It clearly does given the last bunch of pages to this thread in which you keep replying despite constantly insisting others stop trying to derail with discussion of the Armenian genocide.

There was no Genocide , you have been duped .

Oh, well then. Nothing happened, nothing of a partisan nature being stated, move along, just move along.

I don't care, in this discussion. The issue is did these goons (can I call them turkeys?) violate the civil rights of the protesters? If so, toss them out of the country, or charge them, or just jail them. America ain't Turkey.

Let's not whitewash the whole thing either , innocent people got killed , murdered , exiled , etc etc .

Between 3.5 million 5 million estimated civilians Muslims/Turks also got killed too .

In this discussion , the police have neglected their official duties and didn't stop the protestors assaulting a Turkish spectator by throwing a megaphone to his head . This is it turns out was what started the reaction from bodyguards to go on offence .

Best defence is the offence .

I stood by the bodyguards , especially knowing that these lunatics have 18 assasinations attempts on Erdogan's life in last several years , I think bodyguards acted with constraint and just cause .

Bodyguards were doing their jobs and Erdogan ordered them to go on the offence .

They all left USA on the same day and I doubt their action would ever be persecuted in USA .

This was a staged event and a message to those who concerned : " Don't F with Erdogan " .

Signed

Donald Trump .

Sorry...your standards don't apply here in the West. That's one of the really big reasons that we're here in the West. It ain't perfect, but you'll note that nobody goes to jail for laughing at Trump. Somehow I don't think Turkey would allow a local version of Saturday Night Live, and their skewering of the current administration. And that serves to define the health of both countries.
But I repeat, this is not a discussion about the Armenian Genocide, it about foreign goons and whether or not they trampled upon American rights. Anything else is deflection.

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: 23432

Obviously the cops didnt see a object thrown at erodogen and didnt respond due to that. I f the cops didnt see it then the bodyguards are in the wrong.

ANd you need to think here. you do not think those protestors were not searched prior to the protest by the DC police? If erodogen was going to be killed i twould had been a cop doing it or someone dressed as one.

If he is that insecure he does not need to be out in public.

Erodogen Is a weak leader if he cannot stand even a little criticism.

Assasination of Erdogan leads to a WW3 directly .

You are not getting this .

The cops were told by diplomats to intefere and stop advancing protestors as the safety of Erdogan and others were jeopardy .
Cops didn't do anything and there were only 2 cops at present .

And no , no one searches you on your way to Turkish Ambassadors residence so you are free to wear your suicide belt and detonate .

You are supporting headchopping , suicide bombing terrorists .

Guys are shouting PKK slogans and PKK is on the terrorist list USA too .


Puzzling as to why some one would support such a known terrorist organisation supporters violent actions.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: 23432
Believe whatever you want to believe , doesn't bother me .

It clearly does given the last bunch of pages to this thread in which you keep replying despite constantly insisting others stop trying to derail with discussion of the Armenian genocide.

There was no Genocide , you have been duped .

Oh, well then. Nothing happened, nothing of a partisan nature being stated, move along, just move along.

I don't care, in this discussion. The issue is did these goons (can I call them turkeys?) violate the civil rights of the protesters? If so, toss them out of the country, or charge them, or just jail them. America ain't Turkey.

Let's not whitewash the whole thing either , innocent people got killed , murdered , exiled , etc etc .

Between 3.5 million 5 million estimated civilians Muslims/Turks also got killed too .

In this discussion , the police have neglected their official duties and didn't stop the protestors assaulting a Turkish spectator by throwing a megaphone to his head . This is it turns out was what started the reaction from bodyguards to go on offence .

Best defence is the offence .

I stood by the bodyguards , especially knowing that these lunatics have 18 assasinations attempts on Erdogan's life in last several years , I think bodyguards acted with constraint and just cause .

Bodyguards were doing their jobs and Erdogan ordered them to go on the offence .

They all left USA on the same day and I doubt their action would ever be persecuted in USA .

This was a staged event and a message to those who concerned : " Don't F with Erdogan " .

Signed

Donald Trump .

Sorry...your standards don't apply here in the West. That's one of the really big reasons that we're here in the West. It ain't perfect, but you'll note that nobody goes to jail for laughing at Trump. Somehow I don't think Turkey would allow a local version of Saturday Night Live, and their skewering of the current administration. And that serves to define the health of both countries.
But I repeat, this is not a discussion about the Armenian Genocide, it about foreign goons and whether or not they trampled upon American rights. Anything else is deflection.

My standarts comes from Xhabze The Caucasian Code .

Your supposed standarts sanctions and arranges for this confrontation to take place .

There was USA citizens on both side , if this is about just the rights of USA citizens , I stick with the Law Abiding , self defending USA citizens with Turkish ancestory .

You are free to defend the known and dangerous terrorist supporters .

And if you knew the breatdh and range anti-Erdogan speeches in Turkey , you would end up with an egg on your face .

My perspective says this event was pre-arranged and got executed without flaws .

Bodyguard are just peons.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Im LMAO at the guy carrying the turks water. Hey go to my new thread in Mud pit for a laugh.

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Im LMAO at the guy carrying the turks water. Hey go to my new thread in Mud pit for a laugh.

Roger Wilco, that!

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Im LMAO at the guy carrying the turks water. Hey go to my new thread in Mud pit for a laugh.

Roger Wilco, that!

Funniest meme i seen of him was the gollum comparison. spot on.

a reply to: 23432

The cops were told by diplomats to interfere and stop advancing protestors as the safety of Erdogan and others were in jeopardy .
Cops didn't do anything and there were only 2 cops at present .

I didn't find a source for that. Do you have one?

a reply to: 23432

My standarts comes from Xhabze The Caucasian Code .

Do you have a link to the code?

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: 23432

The cops were told by diplomats to interfere and stop advancing protestors as the safety of Erdogan and others were in jeopardy .
Cops didn't do anything and there were only 2 cops at present .

I didn't find a source for that. Do you have one?

yes i do , with slow motion video but in Turkish .

I'll look it up for you .

Has Trump said anything about this yet?

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: 23432

My standarts comes from Xhabze The Caucasian Code .

Do you have a link to the code?

Adyghe Habze
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Adyghe Habze or Circassian Habze (Adyghe: Адыгэ Хабзэ /adəɣa xaːbza/), alternatively spelled Khabze, Khabza, or Xabze, also called Habzism,[1] is[2] the philosophy and worldview of the Adyghe people (called Circassians in English), an ethnic group of North Pontic stock native to historical Circassia (modern-day Russia's European federal subjects of Adygea, Kabardino-Balkaria, Karachay-Cherkessia, Krasnodar Krai, and Stavropol Krai). The native philosophy was influenced by Hellenic religion and philosophy.

The belief system takes its name from the Circassian epic Nart Saga, originally orally transmitted, which has heavily contributed to the shaping of Adyghe values over the centuries. Although historically Christianised and Islamised, the period of the Soviet Union contributed to a severe weakening of religions in the area, especially among the Circassians. During this time and after the fall of the Soviet regime, the revival of Habzist worldview was supported by Adyghe intellectuals, as part of a rise in nationalism and cultural identity in the 1990s[3] and, more recently as a thwarting force against Wahhabism and other Islamic fundamentalism.[4]

The movement has developed a following especially in Karachay-Cherkessia (12%) and Kabardino-Balkaria (3%), according to 2012 statistics.[5] Practitioners and advocates have faced radical Islamist persecution.

On 29 December 2010, a prominent Kabard-Circassian ethnographer and Habze advocate, Arsen Tsipinov,[6] was murdered by Islamist radical non-Circassians who had accused him of mushrik (idolatrous disbelief in Islamic monotheism) and months earlier threatened him and others they accused as idolaters and munafiqun ("hypocrites" who are said are outwardly Muslims but secretly unsympathetic to the cause of Islam) to stop "reviving" and diffusing the rituals of the original Circassian pre-Islamic faith.[7][8]

Contents

1 Etymology
2 Beliefs
3 See also
4 References
5 Bibliography
6 External links

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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
Has Trump said anything about this yet?

He was endorsing Erdogan while the event was taking place .

Since than not a thing .

Message sent.

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
Has Trump said anything about this yet?

He was endorsing Erdogan while the event was taking place .

Since than not a thing .

Message sent.

Not surprised.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
Has Trump said anything about this yet?

He was endorsing Erdogan while the event was taking place .

Since than not a thing .

Message sent.

You need this endorsement if they fail the Chinese Communist Party will own you .

If they succeed , Trump.

edit on 21-5-2017 by 23432 because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
Has Trump said anything about this yet?

He was endorsing Erdogan while the event was taking place .

Since than not a thing .

Message sent.

You need this endorsement if they fail the Chinese Communist Party will own you .

If they succeed , Trump.

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: 23432

The cops were told by diplomats to interfere and stop advancing protestors as the safety of Erdogan and others were in jeopardy .
Cops didn't do anything and there were only 2 cops at present .

I didn't find a source for that. Do you have one?

yes i do , with slow motion video but in Turkish .

I'll look it up for you .

Edited VIdeo from a turkish source. Oh yeah not biased at all right?