Erdoğan's bodyguards in violent clash with protesters in Washington DC

a reply to: 23432

The fact is that I pay for these refugees but no one ever heard me complain about them ; that's how we roll on the whole in Turkey.

What there is to complain about ? You are getting paid € 3 billion for the refugees from EU.




a reply to: D8Tee

So, when I hear that the USA is arming the Kurds, i could substitute that the USA is arming the PKK, which is a terrorist group?

This does not surprise me.

What is the intent of the PKK, and do they have the support of the Kurdish majority?

Actually they arming YPG or PPK which have proven most effective against ISIS so far. Naturally, erdogan is afraid that it will lead to the creation of an independent nation state, consisting of some or all of these areas with a Kurdish majority.

Those areas are , southeastern Turkey (Northern Kurdistan), northern Syria (Rojava or Western Kurdistan), northern Iraq (Southern Kurdistan), and northwestern Iran (Eastern Kurdistan).

Turkey on the other hand does not want and independent state for obvious reasons, and for them PKK/YPG considered terrorist organisation, thus in fight against ISIS the Turkish forces focuses on Kurds primarely instead of ISIS.


Peace

originally posted by: Seed76
a reply to: 23432

The fact is that I pay for these refugees but no one ever heard me complain about them ; that's how we roll on the whole in Turkey.

What there is to complain about ? You are getting paid € 3 billion for the refugees from EU.


Total cost of the expenditure is already in excess of 28 billion , so far . If you think that Turks should take all the refugees and pay for it out of her own pocket than I would say fine but don't ever proclaim the moral highhorse about this issue because that is plain hypocracy , pure and simple .

 

a reply to: D8Tee

So, when I hear that the USA is arming the Kurds, i could substitute that the USA is arming the PKK, which is a terrorist group?

This does not surprise me.

What is the intent of the PKK, and do they have the support of the Kurdish majority?

Actually they arming YPG or PPK which have proven most effective against ISIS so far. Naturally, erdogan is afraid that it will lead to the creation of an independent nation state, consisting of some or all of these areas with a Kurdish majority.

Most effective against ISIS ? You have to be joking , ISIS & YPG & PYD & PKK are all working towards the creation of Greater Israel .

Those areas are , southeastern Turkey (Northern Kurdistan), northern Syria (Rojava or Western Kurdistan), northern Iraq (Southern Kurdistan), and northwestern Iran (Eastern Kurdistan).

Why not mentioned all the Ethic Cleansing these supposed " Kurds " are carrying out ? Is it because it doesn't fir with the " narrative " ?


Turkey on the other hand does not want and independent state for obvious reasons, and for them PKK/YPG considered terrorist organisation, thus in fight against ISIS the Turkish forces focuses on Kurds primarely instead of ISIS.
PKK is a terrorist organisation and it's fight againt ISIS is actually a lie ; if you read a bit than you would see that the Kurdish Barzani also hates them too .


Peace

Peace by all means but you seemed to be supporting those who behead , suicide bomb , kidnap and over all control the heroin trade to Europe . PKK , PYD YPG , ISIS , DAESH are ALL TERRORISTS .

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: AnonyMason

That`s life, just because the snowflakes were allowed to riot burn and loot under the Obama administration doen`t mean a dictator and his bodyguards are going to tolerate that #.
they learned a valuable lesson, things aren`t so bad here in the U.S.A. under a trump administration it could be worse they could be living in turkey where a real dictator wouldn`t tolerate their rioting,looting and anarchist behavior.

So any foreigner should be allowed to come into America and piss on our rights and assault Americans as long as their leader is a fascist pig? Any other rights you want to give up because some foreigner doesn't like it?

Erdogan is not a dictator but a democratically elected president of an ally according to US State department.

There were more American citizens of the side of Pro Erdogan supportes at incident or in general in US .

Propaganda of a terrorist organisation is not a " Right " in any Constitution and furthermore by allowing these terrorist supporters to carry out USA is in violaton of the international agreements , which is what exactly Erdogan told Trump .

Constitution trumps the international agreements you reference IN the US when dealing with the 1st amendment rights of citizens. Sure it may be propoganda but its legal to spout it . the government itself said so under A bill Obama siigned.

And Erodogen can sit and spin and whine to trump all day long but it wont change the fact it was protected speech
And Now that trump is useful you are talking like we are to respect him? Please.

a reply to: yuppa

New developments, they have arrested a couple of the Turks beating the protestors.
Wonder what will come of this? Turkey will be pissed off I would think.
Not much Turkey can realy say about it, their guys were clearly in the wrong.


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U.S. Marshals have arrested two Turkish men living in U.S. for their role in beating peaceful protesters outside of the Turkish embassy in Washington, D.C. last month, a source with knowledge of the matter tells The Daily Caller.

The State Department confirmed in a statement to TheDC that arrests have been, and the Washington, D.C. Metro police department identified the two men as Eyup Yildirim and Sinan Narin.

“Now that charges have been filed, the Department will weigh additional actions for the named individuals, as appropriate under relevant laws and regulations. Any further steps will be responsive and proportional to the charges,” a State Department official said.

Yildirim, a 50-year-old construction company owner from New Jersey, faces charges of assault with significant bodily injury and aggravated assault. Narin, from Virginia, faces an aggravated assault charge.