Erdoğan's bodyguards in violent clash with protesters in Washington DC

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 23432

All one has to to do is go to youtube and watch plenty of protests taking place in various cities in Turkey for various reasons and no one gets killed .

"Go to Youtube" yourself, a whole Kurdish town was destroyed, they were 'protesting' Turkish oppression.

Googled

I live in the most numerous Kurdish city on Earth.

3 million Kurds I live with , my grocer , my butcher , my post office workers , my taxi drivers are all Kurds .

My nephews are also Kurdish too ; so I won't be buying your misinformation today or ever .

So why did the embassy security attack the demonstrators, again?

They didn't attack the protestors ; they were attacked and subsequently defended themselves .

Except the 'action' took place outside the Embassy . Too obviously or willfully blind, whichever.

a reply to: 23432

Turkey occupied by whom ?

Every overseas US base is considered Soverign US territory and you know it... not that you care what that very base is doing to other sovereign nations, either...

Hypocrite, much?

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: 23432

Turks have almost 4 million Refugees from Syria and Turks have a 900 km border with Syria

That is a lot of refugees to take care of.

If Erdagon was so evil as people claim, would he be in the business of taking care of refugees?

Erdogan told him and the World that this is a mistake ; you don't go around defeating terrorists with other terrorists .

Aren't the americans famous for backing terrorist groups? The war in Yemen right now, they seem to be backing terrorist groups in that conflict as well. When will they learn?

Anatolia & Turks in general always had an open door policy for those fleeing a war or oppression ; there are ample examples of it .

Bulgarians [300K], Bosnians [1+million], Chechiyans [200K], Afganis[400K] , Iranis [2 million], Uygurs [20K], Kurds [1+million], Arabs[3 million] , Turkmens[50K] have all escaped to Turkey in the last 40 years .

Erdogan is against usury and NWO ; that is why he gets dehumanised .

The fact is that I pay for these refugees but no one ever heard me complain about them ; that's how we roll on the whole in Turkey.

When will Americans learn ?

When America is bled dry by those who owns Americans I suppose .

originally posted by: intrptr

Except the 'action' took place outside the Embassy . Too obviously or willfully blind, whichever.

So your way of thinking is that if an Ambassador is attacked outside the Embassy than he/she has no right of self defence ?

Outrageously laughable really .

How hard is it to understand that these people were paid up Soros agents working with German NGO's in USA to destabilise Trump i.e USA ?

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 23432

Turkey occupied by whom ?

Every overseas US base is considered Soverign US territory and you know it... not that you care what that very base is doing to other sovereign nations, either...

Hypocrite, much?

Turks also have military bases overseas too .

Mutual agreement between USA & Turkey doesn't mean USA own a piece of Turkey and Incirlik is a Turkish base not an American one and the operations of NATO forces depends on the permit from Turkish Government .


You really need to put aside this Turkish hate and try to cure your ignorance in these matters .

You're welcome.

a reply to: 23432

So your way of thinking is that if an Ambassador is attacked outside the Embassy than he/she has no right of self defence ?

It was a peaceful demonstration, they came out to beat up the demonstrators, a picnic compared to what they do to them in their country , like I already demonstrated, and you denied.

In fact every post by you amounts to shallow, unsourced statements like above,

Fake, outrageous, laughable, lies, followed by "deny ignorance".

The most ignorant use of the term...

but I get the need to bury the thread under pages of insult and innuendo so nobody will read it.

Have the last laugh, good day...

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 23432

So your way of thinking is that if an Ambassador is attacked outside the Embassy than he/she has no right of self defence ?

It was a peaceful demonstration, they came out to beat up the demonstrators, a picnic compared to what they do to them in their country , like I already demonstrated, and you denied.

In fact every post by you amounts to shallow, unsourced statements like above,

Fake, outrageous, laughable, lies, followed by "deny ignorance".

The most ignorant use of the term...

but I get the need to bury the thread under pages of insult and innuendo so nobody will read it.

Have the last laugh, good day...

Protestors were chanting PKK [ terrorist organisation ] and a megaphone was thrown at a pro-erdogan supporter.

Thats how it started and it's all on tape.

Judging by the inaction of Washington Public Prosecutors Office ; they agree with No Charges policy .

These protestors were chanting for a terror organisation as one can clearly hear it on video ; if you understood the language of Turk than you would also discern this indisputable fact of this particular case .

So , why are you supporting these terrorists supporters who openly shout for a terrorist organisation accepted as such by your government ?

I stand for the Law ; you stand for the terrorists .

You don't even understand the language of protestors either .

Audacity is breath taking but no where near as the Chutzpa required for such an ignorance .

Justice is no laughing matter .

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: 23432

Turks have almost 4 million Refugees from Syria and Turks have a 900 km border with Syria

That is a lot of refugees to take care of.

If Erdagon was so evil as people claim, would he be in the business of taking care of refugees?

Erdogan told him and the World that this is a mistake ; you don't go around defeating terrorists with other terrorists .

Aren't the americans famous for backing terrorist groups? The war in Yemen right now, they seem to be backing terrorist groups in that conflict as well. When will they learn?

Anatolia & Turks in general always had an open door policy for those fleeing a war or oppression ; there are ample examples of it .

Bulgarians [300K], Bosnians [1+million], Chechiyans [200K], Afganis[400K] , Iranis [2 million], Uygurs [20K], Kurds [1+million], Arabs[3 million] , Turkmens[50K] have all escaped to Turkey in the last 40 years .

Erdogan is against usury and NWO ; that is why he gets dehumanised .

The fact is that I pay for these refugees but no one ever heard me complain about them ; that's how we roll on the whole in Turkey.

When will Americans learn ?

When America is bled dry by those who owns Americans I suppose .

So, when I hear that the USA is arming the Kurds, i could substitute that the USA is arming the PKK, which is a terrorist group?

This does not surprise me.

What is the intent of the PKK, and do they have the support of the Kurdish majority?

a reply to: 23432

So the entire U S state dept,and media are lying to embarrass turkeys president by saying the protestors were victims right?

Stop letting your ethnicity dictate your thinking. The videos(most non turkish ones) show what went on. no one threw a microphone/bullhorn at the Dumbarse turkish president. Insults were the only thing thrown and the Jag off wanted to push his immunity by having his goons beat on protestors.

a reply to: D8Tee

Kurds outside turkey apparently are smarter and less likely to toe the party line. So call them terrorist to shut them up. Anyone who scares erodogen is a terrorist apparently.

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: 23432

Turks have almost 4 million Refugees from Syria and Turks have a 900 km border with Syria

That is a lot of refugees to take care of.

If Erdagon was so evil as people claim, would he be in the business of taking care of refugees?

Erdogan told him and the World that this is a mistake ; you don't go around defeating terrorists with other terrorists .

Aren't the americans famous for backing terrorist groups? The war in Yemen right now, they seem to be backing terrorist groups in that conflict as well. When will they learn?

Anatolia & Turks in general always had an open door policy for those fleeing a war or oppression ; there are ample examples of it .

Bulgarians [300K], Bosnians [1+million], Chechiyans [200K], Afganis[400K] , Iranis [2 million], Uygurs [20K], Kurds [1+million], Arabs[3 million] , Turkmens[50K] have all escaped to Turkey in the last 40 years .

Erdogan is against usury and NWO ; that is why he gets dehumanised .

The fact is that I pay for these refugees but no one ever heard me complain about them ; that's how we roll on the whole in Turkey.

When will Americans learn ?

When America is bled dry by those who owns Americans I suppose .

So, when I hear that the USA is arming the Kurds, i could substitute that the USA is arming the PKK, which is a terrorist group?

This does not surprise me.

What is the intent of the PKK, and do they have the support of the Kurdish majority?

intent of PKK is to set up a Marxist Goverment via terrorism .

Estimated 12+ million Kurds live in Turkey and % 85 of Kurds do not support PKK.

PKK goes back 5 decades and it's simply put a " gun for hire " organisation above else.

PKK was suicide bombing 30 years ago and suicide bombers were shouting not Allah-u Ekber but Marxist slogans.

Beyond me to understand how a supposed democrat can support these terrorists .

a reply to: 23432

Seems strange the USA would support anything to do with a Marxist group, usually they crush them.

In Yemen, the group the USA opposes and uses Al Queda by proxy to fight, aren't they Marxist?

Can't remember the name of the group in Yemen that the Saudi's and the USA is trying to crush, but I think they are Marxist?

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: 23432

Seems strange the USA would support anything to do with a Marxist group, usually they crush them.

In Yemen, the group the USA opposes and uses Al Queda by proxy to fight, aren't they Marxist?

Can't remember the name of the group in Yemen that the Saudi's and the USA is trying to crush, but I think they are Marxist?

There are 4 main groups in Yemen that are fighting and to my knowledge none of them are Marxists.

originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: AnonyMason

That`s life, just because the snowflakes were allowed to riot burn and loot under the Obama administration doen`t mean a dictator and his bodyguards are going to tolerate that #.
they learned a valuable lesson, things aren`t so bad here in the U.S.A. under a trump administration it could be worse they could be living in turkey where a real dictator wouldn`t tolerate their rioting,looting and anarchist behavior.

So any foreigner should be allowed to come into America and piss on our rights and assault Americans as long as their leader is a fascist pig? Any other rights you want to give up because some foreigner doesn't like it?

a reply to: buster2010

We actually agree on this buster.

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: 23432

Seems strange the USA would support anything to do with a Marxist group, usually they crush them.

In Yemen, the group the USA opposes and uses Al Queda by proxy to fight, aren't they Marxist?

Can't remember the name of the group in Yemen that the Saudi's and the USA is trying to crush, but I think they are Marxist?

There are 4 main groups in Yemen that are fighting and to my knowledge none of them are Marxists.

It was the Houthi rebels I was thinking of. What is their ideological stripe?

eta: Just found this, you were right once again.
Appears the marxist rebels in Yemen are non existant at the present time, and the Houthi's are backed by Iran Shia?
Thanks for helping me understand the situation over there, it's not easy from an outsiders perspective, way too much propaganda in the media to sort through, it's frustrating.
Link

The revolutionary Marxist organizations signatory to this statement, strongly condemn the various acts of aggression carried out by Houthi militias in alliance with the military, which is still controlled by the former tyrant of Yemen, Ali Abdullah Saleh, and strongly supported by the Islamic Republic of the mullahs of Iran.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: AnonyMason

That`s life, just because the snowflakes were allowed to riot burn and loot under the Obama administration doen`t mean a dictator and his bodyguards are going to tolerate that #.
they learned a valuable lesson, things aren`t so bad here in the U.S.A. under a trump administration it could be worse they could be living in turkey where a real dictator wouldn`t tolerate their rioting,looting and anarchist behavior.

So any foreigner should be allowed to come into America and piss on our rights and assault Americans as long as their leader is a fascist pig? Any other rights you want to give up because some foreigner doesn't like it?

Erdogan is not a dictator but a democratically elected president of an ally according to US State department.

There were more American citizens of the side of Pro Erdogan supportes at incident or in general in US .

Propaganda of a terrorist organisation is not a " Right " in any Constitution and furthermore by allowing these terrorist supporters to carry out USA is in violaton of the international agreements , which is what exactly Erdogan told Trump .

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: 23432

Seems strange the USA would support anything to do with a Marxist group, usually they crush them.

In Yemen, the group the USA opposes and uses Al Queda by proxy to fight, aren't they Marxist?

Can't remember the name of the group in Yemen that the Saudi's and the USA is trying to crush, but I think they are Marxist?

There are 4 main groups in Yemen that are fighting and to my knowledge none of them are Marxists.

It was the Houthi rebels I was thinking of. What is their ideological stripe?

eta: Just found this, you were right once again.
Appears the marxist rebels in Yemen are non existant at the present time, and the Houthi's are backed by Iran Shia?
Thanks for helping me understand the situation over there, it's not easy from an outsiders perspective, way too much propaganda in the media to sort through, it's frustrating.
Link

The revolutionary Marxist organizations signatory to this statement, strongly condemn the various acts of aggression carried out by Houthi militias in alliance with the military, which is still controlled by the former tyrant of Yemen, Ali Abdullah Saleh, and strongly supported by the Islamic Republic of the mullahs of Iran.

Truth is the first victim of war and we all are in an asymetric war zone , unbeknown to us , our owners duke it out behind the closed doors for one thing and one thing only : To get our Dominion .

Democracy dead long live Digitocracy !!!

a reply to: 23432

I said fascist Pig not dictator. You do know there is a difference between the two right?

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: 23432

I said fascist Pig not dictator. You do know there is a difference between the two right?

I sure do but in either case to call the man a fascist pig or a dictator is mischaractarisation imho.

Erdogan has his own short comings as a politician but under his regime the only people who really got hurt were the ones who wanted to thwart Democracy and to set up a system to the benefit of their money masters .

If it wasn't for Erdogan's democratically elected government Turks would have had a Washington appointed Caliph whose job was to attack Iran and cause millions upon millions innocent people to die.

If you research Fetullah Gulen and Pastor Brunson ; you'll get a different picture of the situation ; notice how MSM always attacks Erdogan ?

That should give you some clues as to why one needs to be carefull not to buy into MSM version of Erdogan.