there is NO nwo, i repeat NO nwo

Originally posted by imAMERICAN


even if there was, it would be impossible to enforce, the civilized world is too big, it would take BILLIONS OF TROOPS to occupy the world...who would finance this? who would supply the men, and why would the world crumble to a few dozen people...

I don't know if anyone has said anything about this because there are way too many posts to read...but who says that you have enforce each person with troops? I'm sure that they aren't ouside the realm of threats...and they can wipe out as many of us as they want...even if all the armies of the world turned against them...they are still in charge of most of the nuclear weaponry and lord knows what else. I just don't think that they would need BILLIONS of troops to control the world...there are many other ways to do so.

“There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.” - Senator Daniel K. Inouye

All is said. Then you can call it NWO or whatever you want...

[edit on 8/5/2005 by Musclor]

“There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.” - Senator Daniel K. Inouye


wasnt that pertaining to a thing said about AREA 51 on some special on science fiction channel?

No, he said that in the midst of the Iran-Contra hearings.

Your assessment is certainly correct in my opinion. However, I would argue that the culprit is not some shadowy NWO, but is instead a combination of the natural outcomes of materialistic capitalism and an ignorant populace who would rather vote for a complete moron for no other reason than he reminds them of themselves, therefore voting against their own interests.

An example I've used here before is, that just days before the November election, a poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that the war in Iraq is connected to the 9/11 attacks. This blatant ignorance of the facts among the majority of Americans is reflected upon whom they vote for to fill positions of power.

These days, it's almost a crime for us Americans who actually think about and study the issues to even voice our opinions about them. There's always a group out there ready to call us a Communist, or even worse, a Liberal. And once we've been tagged as reds or bleeding-heart libs, majority America have been programmed to ignore us, and everything we say. The vicious circle both begins and ends with ignorance.


I dont think I could say it better.

Masonic that was so on point.!

i agree with you that there are alot of people like that in the USA

but the topic here is this "NWO" which is gunna sneak up one day and all of a sudden

we are all in work camps and eating rations and im assuming saluting (in some wierd way like a straight arm at a 45 degree angle) to some shadow of faces who say that they are gods?

is that it?

There is no nwo ? really ??

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New World Order Quotes

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
--Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli of England, in 1844.

"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England ... (and) ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."-- Professor of History Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University, in his book "Tragedy and Hope".

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." - Woodrow Wilson

"[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it's perceptions."
-- Henry Kissenger, World Affairs Council Press Conference,
Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994

"David Rockefeller is the most conspicuous representative today of the ruling class, a multinational fraternity of men who shape the global economy and manage the flow of its capital. Rockefeller was born to it, and he has made the most of it. But what some critics see as a vast international conspiracy, he considers a circumstance of life and justanother day's work... In the world of David Rockefeller it's hard to tell where business ends and politics begins" . Bill Moyers

"We know in the not too distant future, a half dozen corporations are going to control the media. We took this step (merger) to ensure we were one of them"--Time Warner spokesperson.

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." -- Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg ("Angel" to and active in the United World Federalists), son of Paul Moritz Warburg, nephew of Felix Warburg and of Jacob Schiff, both of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. which poured millions into the Russian Revolution through James' brother Max, banker to the German government - See the Siss?on Report

"All of us will ultimately be judged on the effort we have contributed to building a NEW WORLD ORDER."--Robert Kennedy, former U.S. Attorney-General, 1967.

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise their power from behind the scenes."-- Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court.

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insideous forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

"For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from it's original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy making arm of the government." --
President Harry Truman

Ok just to keep some people happy, lets rename the NWO to something not so freaky and conspiracy sounding.

Lets see..haven't had my coffee yet...
Totalitarian Status Quo Engineers
Evil Corporate Agenda
Immoral Psycopath Empowerment Committee

Coalition of the Willing
hey thats catchy!

World Trade Organization

Hey this is like a creative marketing exercise:
Your assignment, should you choose to accept, is to come up with a catchy name for organized evil and corruption that will dupe the masses into thinking said organization is benevolent

Disney? hmm thats taken
Warner Brothers, thats not all folks.
America Online....hey, that could be patriotic, but not globally.

I need my coffee......a Maxwell house moment....

libra,

perhaps you should check out Thomas Barnett : Pentagon's New Map from CSPAN, he will explain to you what i think you can call new world order. He provides a pretty clear picture of what the next 20 years will be like and why it is happening.
Now someone has to run the show, and its the thinktanks in Washington that came up with this plan that is already up and running and is visible for instance in US foreign policy and the job migrations . Who controls them? Well check out who are the biggest lobbyists in USA? The military and oil industrial complex ! Now who runs these things?

Based on MANY quotes from individuals over the last 7 decades or so, I would have to say there is indeed a NWO. It seems to me that anyone who would deny such a plan existing is either, totally unwilling to look at world events objectively, another sad victim of the mass propaganda that permeates our society, or just completely incapable of any amount of critical thinking. The public indoctrination system has done their job well, as 90% of Americans just don't see whats going on....very sad.

"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." - Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

"Today, I say that no nation in the world need be left out of the global system we are constructing." - Madeleine Albright -


"If we like it or not, we will have a One World Government. The question is if it will beachieved through consent or through conquest" - J. Warburg -


To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism and religious dogmas ...
We have swallowed all manner of poisonous certainties fed us by our parents, our Sunday and day school teachers, our politicians, our priests, our newspapers and others with vested interests in controlling us.

The reinterpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong which has been the basis of child training, the substitution of intelligent and rational thinking for faith in the certainties of the old people, these are the belated objectives ... for charting the changes of human behavior. --DIRECTOR, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION Brock Chisolm --

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." Adolf Hitler

Sorry but do you even have a clue about what NWO stands for or beyond that, what the hell are you talking about in your vacuum?

Dallas

imAmerican. I guess you are a tipycal representative of intelligent robot. You can read about it on another NWO link I posted

Within the robotic program used by the psychomafia to control people the following three elements can be recognised: The first one obstructs the recognition of its existence using the etiquettes of "conspiracy theory" and "insanity" ("paranoia"). Because the awareness of the psychomafia's existence has been impossible to erase, the psychomafia has directed it into existing religions while disqualifying others as "superstition", "heresy", "religious madness" or at least as "unscientific"...

Why world hunger when there are rich people who could feed the world and it wouldn't even make a dent in their bank accounts???

Why the hell should they have to do that?

Nygdan, maybe because it's the right an humane thing to to?

Again I agree with masonic.

Good post.!

Originally posted by iceTman
There is no nwo ? really ??

Yes, really...It's true. The NWO existed only back in the early histories of civilization...

...In these modern times, it's the OWO (Old World Order). Read my first post in this thread. It's the same thing, only with a new name & much better technology available to implement their plans for complete domination of humanity.


[edit on 19-7-2005 by MidnightDStroyer]

Originally posted by Omniscient

...but who says that you have enforce each person with troops? I'm sure that they aren't ouside the realm of threats...and they can wipe out as many of us as they want...even if all the armies of the world turned against them...they are still in charge of most of the nuclear weaponry and lord knows what else. I just don't think that they would need BILLIONS of troops to control the world...there are many other ways to do so.

Excellent point made Om.
I would further like to present the following dilemna to ImAmerican (oh, and NO, you're not) & anyone else who thinks martial law is difficult to establish, enforce and maintain:

How many sheeple can one OFW (Objective Force Warrior) control at any given time? Better yet, how many sheeple would it take to work up the intestinal fortitude necessary (what with the flouride and all) to resist or engage in combat, just one such equipped, highly trained soldier? Now visualize for me, and make it a squad. A platoon? A division? Now throw in a little armor, nothing fancy (they're just peasants), maybe a few assault gunships.........

Think about it.

I apologise, imAMERICAN, for making the statement above, casting doubt on your patriotism. That's not the way I normally communicate. Evidence of staying up too late, and letting things get to me on a personal level.

All you need is the right power pieces to control society.The Shadow government does exist.They are united world wide they want to stay in power and any of those that challenge that power will be delt with.The easiest way to control people is take their lively hood away.We are seeing this in many countries of our world.There are many countries just waiting to uprise but don't have the strength because of our dark government.The reason they don't have the strength is that the Dark government takes away their strength.They know how to strike an take away the heart of people.What better way then to take out your whole generation or something similar.They are very cold blooded, they have no remorse for their actions.They keep you in control by anger and fear, if we had more compassion they would not stay in power long.It should realy be called the old world order.They are caught in a cylcle that they cannot break.

menguard how did they came to power.Are the reptilains controlling the shadow govt and does the shadow govt control russia,china and india?

The Shadow government got their name for moving in stealth.They are behind the scenes.Illuminati/New world order/Shadow government/Dark government are all the same thing.I think that red symbol with a dot in the middle would best describe it.We are the dot in the middle and they are the circle keeping us enclosed.We are slaves to a descrpition and a very cheap one at that.They are selling plays of reality over the news.They can manipulate those who are unaware of truth very easily.If it doesn't resonate with the love vibration in you then know it is not truth.We have to learn to discern truth from falsehoods.The false vibration will make you feel heavy/enraged/weakened and oppressed.THIS IS TO KEEP YOU FROM ASCENDING INTO A HIGHER STATE OF BEING.