there is NO nwo, i repeat NO nwo

your all being paranoid, there is NO NWO, none!

its a figment of your imagination

there is no secret society rigging elections

there is no one plotting, well maybe terrorists but no nwo

even if there was, it would be impossible to enforce, the civilized world is too big, it would take BILLIONS OF TROOPS to occupy the world...who would finance this? who would supply the men, and why would the world crumble to a few dozen people...

its a big LIE

and your all falling for it

i dont mean to be mean, but open your eyes, its ridiculus, bloodlines, secret societies.... rubbish, its all rubbish...

who ever started this idea was either paranoid or stupid... wake up sheeple


WAKE UP!

I agree with you wholeheartedly about everything else. But remote control technology is available for use with humans. THis is the only fact. Everything else is wonky mumbo jumbo.

Originally posted by imAMERICAN

i dont mean to be mean, but open your eyes,

Suggest you take your own advice buddy....open your eyes and your mind. Why is it the rich and powerful get more rich and more powerful, while you and I work our as*es off to pay taxes and be like a hamster on the wheel? And it doesn't matter where you live.

Do you really think Bushy is worried about the social security his daughters will eventually collect or not collect? They could buy and sell all of us any day of the week...they'll never have to get their hands dirty, just like their daddy never had to.

Believe what you want, don't really care but please don't try and make those of us who do question the who, what, where why and when stick our heads in the sand. Its good to question things and try to understand and perhaps have an effect on the outcome. Its good to expect and demand accountability from our elected officials. Its good not to be dumbed down and stupid...

Alrighty?

Originally posted by AlwaysLearning
Suggest you take your own advice buddy....open your eyes and your mind. Why is it the rich and powerful get more rich and more powerful, while you and I work our as*es off to pay taxes and be like a hamster on the wheel? And it doesn't matter where you live.

That's the way it's been throughout history. Unless the NWO is just real #ty at what they do and haven't managed to seize power in the last 6,000 years, that argument don't fly.

The rest of your post is standard government hating, so no reason to reply there

Don't hate the government...but they work for us don't they? They should be, so why shouldn't we expect accoutability.

who ever started this idea was either paranoid or stupid... wake up sheeple

No such thing as a "new world order"? I suppose you are calling President George H.W. Bush paranoid or stupid? I hope you take the time to read all of the following quotes and investigate the issue further:

From the National Archives
September 11, 1990

On September 11, 1990 at 9:09 PM, President George Herbert Walker Bush spoke before a joint session of Congress, regarding the Persian Gulf War. Among other topics, he stated that the war presented an opportunity for a "New World Order" to emerge.

We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -- a new world order -- can emerge: a new era -- freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony.

www.sweetliberty.org...

www.informationclearinghouse.info...

Also, on 1/21/2005, during the inauguration speech, his son G.W. Bush stated:

"We have confidence because freedom is the Permanent hope of mankind, the hunger in dark places, the longing of the soul. When our Founders declared a New Order of the Ages, when soldiers died in wave upon for a Union based on "LIBERTY", when citizens marched in peacful outrage under the Banner of freedom "NOW"-they were acting in ancient hope that is meant to be fullfilled."

Also, on 9/14/01, Gary Hart, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, stated:

"There is a chance for the President of the United States to use the disaster . . . to carry out what his father - a phrase his father used I think only once, and it hasn't been used since - and that is a new world order."
Senator Gary Hart, Sept. 14, 2001 [4]

www.radioliberty.com...

www.informationclearinghouse.info...

Try doing some research before you start denying ignorance!

Regards,
MK

AlwaysLearning.

Dude you live in Canada, I think your safe from the big bad USA and the NWO (to bad NWO has been rumored in diferant forms through out history).

I bet in ancient times people thought Alexander the Great was head of the NWO one world government.

Relax, you will only suffer more if you try to fight it. Just Kidding.....

Originally posted by AlwaysLearning
Don't hate the government...but they work for us don't they? They should be, so why shouldn't we expect accoutability.

It was a joke

MKULTRA, this has been gone over time and time again, world leaders as far back as we can tell have used the term 'New World Order'. And as I have said time and time again, they must be the most incompetent group ever created if they haven't managed to take over yet

Originally posted by bpletcj
AlwaysLearning.

Dude you live in Canada, I think your safe from the big bad USA and the NWO

Bud - I don't think any of us are safe...and its not just the big bad USA. All's I know is that rich and powerful people keep getting richer and more powerful and its not their kids that get killed fighting in the streets of Iraq. Just one small example. Why world hunger when there are rich people who could feed the world and it wouldn't even make a dent in their bank accounts??? You have a wonder...even just a little bit.

I prefer to be suspicious and question everything that doesn't smell right. That's a personal choice...you do what you like.

MKULTRA, this has been gone over time and time again, world leaders as far back as we can tell have used the term 'New World Order'. And as I have said time and time again, they must be the most incompetent group ever created if they haven't managed to take over yet

In presenting the quotes, I was responding specifically to the initial post. I agree with you-- it has been gone over time and time again. I wish the initial poster would have used the "search" function!

There is no need for this elite group to "take over", as they've been in control all along! Of course, it is entirely possible that some of them are incompetent-- that kind of thing tends to happen with inbreeding

MK

Originally posted by AlwaysLearning
Why is it the rich and powerful get more rich and more powerful,

You think it requires a conspiracy for that? Or the NWO in particular?

mkultra
I suppose you are calling President George H.W. Bush paranoid or stupid?

Bush used the words 'new world order'. He didn't say 'a conspiracy to install a socialistic one world government and replace all religions with a one world religion'.

bpletcj
I bet in ancient times people thought Alexander the Great was head of the NWO one world government.

Probably at that eh? Heck, the spanish were whipped into thinking that Napolean was the antichrist by their institutions.

Why world hunger when there are rich people who could feed the world and it wouldn't even make a dent in their bank accounts???

Why the hell should they have to do that?

Originally posted by Esoterica
MKULTRA, this has been gone over time and time again, world leaders as far back as we can tell have used the term 'New World Order'. And as I have said time and time again, they must be the most incompetent group ever created if they haven't managed to take over yet

The only difference between now and then is that its a possible reality thanks to technology. Microchips are real, you don't think the governments ever thought: Hey we can use these chips to monitor people. I bet they have, but I don't believe a NWO structure could work. I suppose hypothetically a national system or mini-NWO could work just not a global wide system.

Originally posted by Linux
The only difference between now and then is that its a possible reality thanks to technology. Microchips are real, you don't think the governments ever thought: Hey we can use these chips to monitor people. I bet they have, but I don't believe a NWO structure could work. I suppose hypothetically a national system or mini-NWO

could work just not a global wide system.

In theory, an NWO could work. But communism also works in theory...

First off, a one-world government is not itself a bad thing. It all depends on how it is set up. Of course, people around here always assume the worst.

As for microchips to track people...if you actually think that's feasible at this point, you're wrong. We're having enough trouble right now getting shipping pallets and trucks wired for the stuff, and you need a reader that has ranges measured in feet to pick it up, Therre is not a satellite on this planet that can monitor every person in the world, chipped or not. Not to mention the absolutely astronomical costs it would incur to set up such a system right now. Maybe in the future, but today it's just another chance for people to increase their ATS points.

Originally posted by Esoterica
In theory, an NWO could work. But communism also works in theory...

Yes of course, its only a theory since we have no way of testing our hypothesis unlike communism which had a chance to thrive but didn't.

As for microchips to track people...if you actually think that's feasible at this point, you're wrong. We're having enough trouble right now getting shipping pallets and trucks wired for the stuff, and you need a reader that has ranges measured in feet to pick it up, Therre is not a satellite on this planet that can monitor every person in the world, chipped or not. Not to mention the absolutely astronomical costs it would incur to set up such a system right now. Maybe in the future, but today it's just another chance for people to increase their ATS points.

For sure, I don't believe that we've reached that point yet. All I was saying is that with technology we're bound to see a higher chance of this type of "New World Order" happending. It won't be today, not tommorow, but rest assured the day will come when we have the capabilities to carry out things like this.

it seems we missed the whole point of NWO

-dont worry, its not that bad. its already here. No, they are not going to take the flags down and hoist big "NWO" everywhere. Some will deny it, but it is painfully obvious to me that the superpowers are answering to the same bossman.

c'mon you guys, remember?
......"the revolution will not be televized" .. .

Originally posted by imAMERICAN

wake up sheeple

WAKE UP!

Actually the term sheeple is reserved for people more like yourself than those you aimed this thread at. Non-believers, or Socially Engineered drones walking around following the herd. Im not saying the New World Order exists like it is depicted in Conspiracy theory Land, but can i ask what has lead you to your conclusion the NWO is not real? You seem quite sure of yourself thats all, it would be interesting to see what your basing your claims on.

[edit on 4-2-2005 by MERC]

ok look dude. it would not take billions of people to occupy the world. if the NWO came into place, there would be so many casualties in the first couple of months, its not even imaginable. and the U.S. has more than a few dozen people, plus, i think the british government and military would help us too, and they also have more than a few dozen people. on top of that, the worlds' citizens dont even compare to military personnel. and maybe you should read some books or something, open your mind to new things, you might suprise yourself. im not telling you that you have to believe in the NWO, but it is possible that the NWO will come into effect, just keep your mind open. send me a U2U if you have any questions.

and this is to ESOTERICA. maybe they didnt want to take over so early because they wanted to wait for the prime opportunity. they might not wanted to have developed the other countries, or built the other countries, so we would wait until they have developed to take over. or, we might have gotten alien technology in the recent years, and the NWO might come into effect very shortly. im not telling you to believe in the NWO either, just KEEP YOUR MIND OPEN. ATS isnt for people who want to criticize other people for what they believe in, its for people who are interested in conspiracy and what to get a better grasp on what is going on in our world and society. dont dismiss everything right away, get information about it, and then make a conclusion.

The NWO and the reptilians a veeerrry patient. They're waiting for just the right moment to take over

and waiting

and waiting

and waiting

Oh boy, another thread where each side can be summed up as follows:

Side 1: "There is no NWO, you're all a bunch of stupidheads!"

Side 2: "There is too NWO! It's the rich and the government!"

Side 3: "Look, let's get some facts straight first..."

Side 1: (ignoring Side 3) "Is not!"

Side 2: (ignoring Side 3) "Is too!"

Side 4: "Let's talk about Jesus!"

Side 3: (finds another thread)


My God, people, it never gets old...

Does anyone have anything besides the standard regurgitated rhetoric of how Bush and the rich are obviously all part of a global conspiracy to take over the world? Or how our entire country is run by a Shadow Government? ANYONE? Does anyone have a good solid list of facts? A manifesto? Some expert witness testimony? A long string of evidence and proof that could be called anything other than party spin or outright hearsay? ANYONE???

I leave myself open to many possibilities: there might be a NWO, there might be one forming, there might be nothing more than some self-righteous prick in office who is hated by the reasonable half of the nation. But the blind-faith and conviction in something that--let's face it--absolutely none of us know anything about, makes me sick to my stomach.

Are we really supposed to believe that you, the poster, sitting at your desk, bored at work, or in between playing your game console and episodes of One Tree Hill, or between classes at school, have some sort of top secret inside knowledge of how the real world really works?

The point of this forum is to deny ignorance, not to spread it. Pretending to be someone "in the know" about something like the NWO is the greatest foolishness there is, and laying blame for it on something as obviously blanketed concepts as "the rich" and "the government" is not only unoriginal, but also a very close second.

(puts soapbox away, and finds something better to read.)