The flat earth conspiracy

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: turbonium1

if you wish to claim that a sextant " works " on an aledged flat earth

demonstrate it :

1 - show the distance from the true north pole - to polaris

2 - show the " over ground distance" of one degree of latitude

come on - lets see your evidence

Spewing forth a non-existent force does not exactly wash as 'evidence' for your claim, or any claim. Saying I need to show evidence against a phantom force hardly matters from that point, anyway.

When you cannot address airplanes measuring level flight, with instruments that MEASURE level in air, don't make demands of me to show evidence for something you can't prove to begin with, based on fantasy forces that magically solve all problems without any evidence the phantom force even exists! Let alone having magical powers that make all the real problems go away forever and ever, just by wishing for it!

a reply to: turbonium1

again -another turbo troll evasive babling

explain how sextants work on the flat earth model

it shpould not be a hard problem

1 - distance to polaris

2 - overground measurement of 1 degree latitude

a reply to: turbonium1

It is not an assumption that the Earth is round.

It's been proven with...wait for it...science. Rather simple mathematics/geometry was used a few thousand years ago to prove it.

Just because you choose to ignore it, doesn't make it any less true. Covering your ears and screaming "laa-laa-laa" over and over again won't make it go away, either.

a reply to: turbonium1

Hmm, the person who demanded people provide him with evidence now suddenly finds it unfair that people insist he provides evidence.

Have something to think about..

imgur.com...

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: turbonium1

if you wish to claim that a sextant " works " on an aledged flat earth

demonstrate it :

1 - show the distance from the true north pole - to polaris

2 - show the " over ground distance" of one degree of latitude

come on - lets see your evidence

Spewing forth a non-existent force does not exactly wash as 'evidence' for your claim, or any claim. Saying I need to show evidence against a phantom force hardly matters from that point, anyway.

When you cannot address airplanes measuring level flight, with instruments that MEASURE level in air, don't make demands of me to show evidence for something you can't prove to begin with, based on fantasy forces that magically solve all problems without any evidence the phantom force even exists! Let alone having magical powers that make all the real problems go away forever and ever, just by wishing for it!

(Sigh)
Evidence has been provided for you again and again. Repeatedly. You have persistently denied it or ignored it or (worse) twisted it into a pretzel and then made false claims about it. It's a bit rich that you now moan about being asked to provide proof for your ongoing silliness.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: turbonium1

It is not an assumption that the Earth is round.

It's been proven with...wait for it...science. Rather simple mathematics/geometry was used a few thousand years ago to prove it.

Just because you choose to ignore it, doesn't make it any less true. Covering your ears and screaming "laa-laa-laa" over and over again won't make it go away, either.

Nobody proved it, nobody will ever prove it, in fact.

What you think is 'proof', is all trickery, claimed as proof, which has managed to fool people up to this very day, which is sad, indeed.

They start with all sorts of unproven, unprovable claims as being true, as fact, which they know cannot be proven wrong, which makes them 'true', of course. All sorts of claims are about 'space', what is out is 'space', because 'space' is where nobody can ever prove anything claimed as wrong.


Add a non-existent force that can do anything, without even existing in the first place, and they can 'prove' whatever they want, and people buy that bs as true, which is almost sickening, in all honestly.

If you look into their 'proof', you will see it is all based on their unproven, ridiculous assumptions being true, and that is the trickery I'm referring to here. It appears legit, until you take it apart, and see the trickery within it. They also use words to trick people, in their papers.

This comes down to a very simple, very understandable issue. It would prove, beyond any doubt, whether or not the Earth is round, or if it is actually flat.

Seeing if a rocket actually flies up into 'orbit', or 'space', would immediately settle this entire debate, forever.

Do you really think they wouldn't tell us where to see their rockets fly up, until it is a speck above Earth, if it was actually true? Honestly, what do you really think about this? Obviously, it cannot be from them not KNOWING where to see their rockets fly until they are a speck from Earth, right? And obviously, they would want to show it to the whole world, flying up until it is a tiny speck, because that proves their mighty rockets work as claimed, and the public would love to see it, obviously, which helps get more public funding.

Every reason to tell us where to see a rocket fly up into a speck, and no reason to keep it a secret for all this time....right?


Except there is one, and only one, undeniable reason to not tell us - and that's why they will NEVER tell us where to see it.

It's fake. All of it, from start to finish.


It is an illusion, and nothing more.

They have planned on sending many craft into 'orbit' this year...

spaceflightnow.com...

Why don't you find out where we can see one of those craft fly up until it's a speck above Earth? Do you think any of them will mention that, now? No way, no chance.

Why not? I'd love to see it, wouldn't you? We'd be the first to see it! Wow!

Don't play the fool, my friend. Use common sense, and see how absurd this really is, because it cannot be more blatantly obvious.

a reply to: turbonium1

There are public viewing areas at launch sites whete you can watch the rockets get launched and go all the way up. Thousands of people go to see them all the time and take videos and photos. You could do the same, but you won't.


www.kennedyspacecenter.com...

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

There are public viewing areas at launch sites whete you can watch the rockets get launched and go all the way up. Thousands of people go to see them all the time and take videos and photos. You could do the same, but you won't.


www.kennedyspacecenter.com...

Then all sorts of videos must have been taken, showing rockets go "all the way up", right?

Please cite a few, if you could...

Why can't you just post links to the videos, since you claim that such videos actually do exist?

The last video of rockets was supposed to be taken on Earth, at the same time as on the rocket.

The camera on the supposed rocket showed Earth below it, and the camera on Earth was split into three separate films, from different angles, showing three different rockets, none of which were higher than an airplane. The last rocket - which 'separated the boosters' - was almost flying straight down towards Earth, while the other 'rocket' showed Earth below it. The rocket plummeting to Earth was cut off before it crashed, obviously not good to leave that part in, when 'proving' rockets fly into 'orbit'.


This video alone shows that it is complete joke, faked, and even when they show a rocket plummeting to Earth, and the other rocket in 'space', above Earth, some people STILL cannot understand what sort of sheer stupidity this is.

No wonder we're so f&& up, when stupidity like this is called 'proof'!

a reply to: turbonium1

Why don't you post some concrete proof that rocket launches don't go into space instead of just constantly refurgitating the same tired old tropes? It wouldn't matter if I posted a page full of videos, you will deny them (as you have done befor), just like you deny that you can go see a rocket launch with your own eyes

If KSC isnt your thing, try Star City:

starcity-tours.com...

or maye South America:

www.rocketlaunch.live...

or India:

timesofindia.indiatimes.com...

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Because all he has is those same tired old tropes. He's been shouting the same nonsense for however many years now and possibly now has an inkling that we're all laughing at him. He has not convinced one other person that his nonsense has a single leg to stand on.
It's a bit sad really. That said, his theory about gravity was imaginative. Silly, but imaginative.

gentlemen he doesn't understand what orbit is.... he believes its "straight up"... space = orbit

he also believes things just float once they're in space

this like everything else has been explained numerous times...

Theres actually a better chance the earth is flat, then this guy understanding simple concepts

a reply to: Akragon

Dont even get him started on "geostationary" i think 20 pages worth of comedy content in this thread on that alone

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

Why don't you post some concrete proof that rocket launches don't go into space instead of just constantly refurgitating the same tired old tropes? It wouldn't matter if I posted a page full of videos, you will deny them (as you have done befor), just like you deny that you can go see a rocket launch with your own eyes

If KSC isnt your thing, try Star City:

starcity-tours.com...

or maye South America:

www.rocketlaunch.live...

or India:

timesofindia.indiatimes.com...

I never said rockets don't launch, or that we don't see them launch, so please get a clue about that. I've only been explaining this issue for several months already!

You're the one claiming rockets fly into 'orbit', and 'space', not me. It's up to YOU to prove your claim, not mine to disprove it. One cannot prove a pink elephant does NOT exist, it is up to anyone who claims flying pink elephants DO exist, to first prove that claim is true. Do you not grasp this yet?

Show proof that rockets actually fly into 'orbit', or 'space', from videos taken from Earth. You haven't proven your claim at all, and all your flimsy excuses are completely worthless.

Your latest sources show nothing, as usual. Why don't you admit the truth for once? Do you fear the reality so much, that you cannot even admit it? How sad.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Because all he has is those same tired old tropes. He's been shouting the same nonsense for however many years now and possibly now has an inkling that we're all laughing at him. He has not convinced one other person that his nonsense has a single leg to stand on.
It's a bit sad really. That said, his theory about gravity was imaginative. Silly, but imaginative.

If people realize we've never seen, of filmed, a single rocket actually flying towards 'orbit', until it is a mere speck above Earth, they do not need to come here, and discuss it.

You know this is true, yet will continue to deny it, because your whole belief system depends on the claim that rockets really DO fly into 'orbit', and into 'space'.

That is the real nonsense here, of course.

originally posted by: Akragon
gentlemen he doesn't understand what orbit is.... he believes its "straight up"... space = orbit

he also believes things just float once they're in space

this like everything else has been explained numerous times...

Theres actually a better chance the earth is flat, then this guy understanding simple concepts

You believe rockets have to fly into 'orbit', that's the problem here. Seeing them launch, and veer over the ocean out of sight, is not flying into 'orbit'. Nobody sees that part, or films it, that's what you don't understand.

We indeed live in interesting times, i am a roundy, others flatties or fractalars, may simply be a dimensional thing, Max Igan says it better >

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Because all he has is those same tired old tropes. He's been shouting the same nonsense for however many years now and possibly now has an inkling that we're all laughing at him. He has not convinced one other person that his nonsense has a single leg to stand on.
It's a bit sad really. That said, his theory about gravity was imaginative. Silly, but imaginative. [/quo

a reply to: dfnj2015
i read a joke that proves the earth is not flat.
If the Earth was flat, Cats would have already pushed everything off the edge.

originally posted by: justdust
a reply to: dfnj2015
i read a joke that proves the earth is not flat.
If the Earth was flat, Cats would have already pushed everything off the edge.

It's better than any of the other claims about Earth being a ball - at least it's amusing!

If Earth was a ball, cats would have ripped Earth into shreds, long ago!

a reply to: turbonium1

So because no one sees it or it doesn't get filmed it doesn't exist right?

tell that to all the religious people on here then