The flat earth conspiracy

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: turbonium1



So because no one sees it or it doesn't get filmed it doesn't exist right?



tell that to all the religious people on here then

no people see it... and it's been filmed... and posted

anything outside of his bubble is CGI

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: justdust
a reply to: dfnj2015


If Earth was a ball, cats would have ripped Earth into shreds, long ago!

Any proof to verify that claim ?

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: turbonium1

So because no one sees it or it doesn't get filmed it doesn't exist right?

tell that to all the religious people on here then

It's much worse than any religion. Rockets would be SEEN by people on Earth, flying up towards 'orbit', until it is merely a speck in the sky!

Nobody has ever seen that, or filmed it from Earth, and that's why it is utterly ridiculous!

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: turbonium1

So because no one sees it or it doesn't get filmed it doesn't exist right?

tell that to all the religious people on here then

It's much worse than any religion. Rockets would be SEEN by people on Earth, flying up towards 'orbit', until it is merely a speck in the sky!

Nobody has ever seen that, or filmed it from Earth, and that's why it is utterly ridiculous!

Seriously? That's all you have? Really?
www.youtube.com...
You sadden me.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: turbonium1

So because no one sees it or it doesn't get filmed it doesn't exist right?

tell that to all the religious people on here then

It's much worse than any religion. Rockets would be SEEN by people on Earth, flying up towards 'orbit', until it is merely a speck in the sky!

Nobody has ever seen that, or filmed it from Earth, and that's why it is utterly ridiculous!

Seriously? That's all you have? Really?
www.youtube.com...
You sadden me.

How many times can I say it, before you get a clue?

I'm referring to EARTH viewpoints of it, NOT anything else, is that clear to you?

Show it FROM EARTH...

How many rockets, satellites, etc. have they claimed to fly into 'orbit', or 'space', since 1957?


Thousands, of course.


Would they have known where each rocket, etc. is flying, all the time, from launch, to orbit, and afterwards?

That's what they claim, of course. All rockets are tracked, throughout.

And if that is true, they must know when a rocket flies up towards 'orbit', as well.

What if they have never told us where to SEE a rocket fly up towards 'orbit', if they know where to see it, is because no rocket DOES fly up towards 'orbit', and nothing else does, or can, fly into 'orbit'.


That's why they will never tell us where to see a rocket fly up towards 'orbit', viewed from Earth.

This shows what a powerful illusion can achieve, did achieve, and still does achieve - to make everyone believe a rocket flies into 'space', or 'orbit', without ever showing it, in any way!!


If you show a rocket launching from Earth, going upward, then all the rest will be ASSUMED by everyone, to have happened, exactly as they've claimed.

Later on, they show another illusion to confirm their story is true, while nobody realizes we'd SEE a rocket fly up towards 'orbit', from Earth, simply because everyone is already convinced, by that point. So nobody thinks about it, questions it, or certainly never realize how stupid we've all been, to not catch this trickery, their whole con game, which shows how some illusions can fool everyone, and sometimes do.

And with more and more illusions, and so forth, it is only confirmed further, and less chance it is ever questioned, because people will point out all of the 'evidence' showing it is absolutely true!


A lie will always be a lie, however they try to hide it from us.


They cannot show a rocket - viewed from Earth - actually flying up towards 'orbit', until it is a mere speck in the sky.


This would prove their claim, and they cannot prove it, and never will.

That's what makes conspiracy theories so much fun

Woah there Sezly - we don't investigate because it's a fun thing to do - in actual fact the moral, ethical & spiritual well-being of the entire world is frequently in the hands of the men & women who craft dark tabernacles in the shadows & literally pull the world through a cosmic hedge backwards. It's not a parlour game to go alongside brandy & cigars after dinner!

We investigate because the TRUTH is important, and TRUTH must win out over all things. Until the day of judgement arrives (conceive of it how you will), we are stuck in a limbo which proceeds forth from the will of powerful beings yanking the chains of the rulers in the world of men. The world is getting more fracked up by the decade, and I can't see it lasting much farther than the singularity, likely soon to emanate from the heart of a quantum computer farm in the Chinese wilderness..

FITO

a reply to: turbonium1

can you prove your claim? I doubt you ever will

rockets do fly into orbit , the telemetry data , and visual confirmation proves it
and proves you wrong

millions over the "globe" are happy that rockets do indeed fly into orbit when they watch them launch from cape canaveral or from Baikonur cosmodrome .

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: turbonium1

can you prove your claim? I doubt you ever will

rockets do fly into orbit , the telemetry data , and visual confirmation proves it
and proves you wrong

millions over the "globe" are happy that rockets do indeed fly into orbit when they watch them launch from cape canaveral or from Baikonur cosmodrome .

They don't fly into 'orbit', that's the problem.

"Visual confirmation" is seeing a rocket FROM EARTH, until it is a speck in the sky, going towards 'orbit'!!

If you believe rockets fly into 'orbit', then they obviously still have to fly until they are a mere speck in the sky, somewhere along the way, right?

But we have NEVER seen one rocket flying until it is a speck above Earth, which proves they NEVER go into 'orbit', as you believe.

When they show 'data', or 'lights' in dark skies, how does that prove anything?

All of those tricks are used to help confirm their grandiose illusion, of rockets flying into 'orbit', of course.

Nobody even realizes all of these rockets are never seen going until they are a speck above Earth, in the sky!!

a reply to: turbonium1

How many times does this need repeating until it penetrates? Everything you claim can't be seen and witnessed can be and has been. You're utterly and completely wrong.

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: turbonium1

can you prove your claim? I doubt you ever will

rockets do fly into orbit , the telemetry data , and visual confirmation proves it
and proves you wrong

millions over the "globe" are happy that rockets do indeed fly into orbit when they watch them launch from cape canaveral or from Baikonur cosmodrome .

They don't fly into 'orbit', that's the problem.

"Visual confirmation" is seeing a rocket FROM EARTH, until it is a speck in the sky, going towards 'orbit'!!

If you believe rockets fly into 'orbit', then they obviously still have to fly until they are a mere speck in the sky, somewhere along the way, right?

But we have NEVER seen one rocket flying until it is a speck above Earth, which proves they NEVER go into 'orbit', as you believe.

When they show 'data', or 'lights' in dark skies, how does that prove anything?

All of those tricks are used to help confirm their grandiose illusion, of rockets flying into 'orbit', of course.

Nobody even realizes all of these rockets are never seen going until they are a speck above Earth, in the sky!!

(Facepalm)
Yes, but by your (horribly flawed) logic what is going up must be coming down again straight away. Where? Where are these vehicles/satellites landing not long after they've been launched?
What are those strange lights in the sky, that appear like clockwork as they cross the sky every night?
Look, this thread is pointless and has become silly. You are utterly wrong, I suspect that you know that you are utterly wrong, but you keep on trying to flog a horse that has been dead for so long that it's nothing more than a scrap of leather on a sliver of bone.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

He doesn't understand the word "orbit"... pretty sure he took his definition from loony toons... ye know, up there in space floating around

for any one wondering - is there any merit to turbo-trolls babblings about rocket launches

simply ask it - one question :

why do you expect to see a rocket asscend all the way to orbit - when you cannot show a cruise ship sailing to a point 400km [ or more ] away ?

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

Yes, but by your (horribly flawed) logic what is going up must be coming down again straight away. Where? Where are these vehicles/satellites landing not long after they've been launched?

They all crash into the ocean, they don't 'land' down on Earth, that's why they veer out of sight, over the ocean, to begin with! Are you that naive, and gullible, to believe such nonsense claims they make, over an over, without SEEING any proof, to support their crap?

These rockets vanish over the ocean, out of all view, while flying almost horizontal paths, like any airplanes fly all the time. That's it. No more ever seen. Even though it WOULD be seen, if it was true, since rockets have to eventually fly upward, to ever reach 'orbit', so why have we NEVER seen that, ever before, if it's true?

If rockets really fly up into 'orbit', wouldn't we have seen it as a SPECK in the sky, on Earth, if it was true? Think about how ridiculous that is...

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
What are those strange lights in the sky, that appear like clockwork as they cross the sky every night?

The 'strange lights' that nobody can even identify, in the dark of night?

Would these 'strange lights' be the same lights that NASA told us were the ISS, flying in 'Earth orbit', perhaps?

So you want me to prove, or explain, how these lights, that nobody can even identify, in any way, are NOT what they tell us they are??


Meanwhile, they've NEVER told us where to actually see a rocket fly until it is a speck, going up TOWARDS 'orbit', during the bright of daylight? Are you serious?


Those 'lights' above us, at night, are to CONFIRM their lies, which you don't understand, and never will.


Why would they never mention where to see a rocket from Earth, fly until it is a mere speck above us, if it was true?


You cannot even address that problem, you cannot answer it, because you are simply afraid of the truth, in front of you.


The elephant in the room is still here, it will not go away, it will not vanish, it has no excuses, so deal with it, or deny the reality, it's your choice..

a reply to: turbonium1

The elephant in the room is still here, it will not go away, it will not vanish, it has no excuses, so deal with it, or deny the reality, it's your choice..

Good advice!!

You should take it.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
for any one wondering - is there any merit to turbo-trolls babblings about rocket launches

simply ask it - one question :

why do you expect to see a rocket asscend all the way to orbit - when you cannot show a cruise ship sailing to a point 400km [ or more ] away ?

When did I say a rocket HAS to fly straight up, and since they don't, it means they don't go into 'orbit'? I didn't say that, YOU did.


Would you agree that a rocket, no matter when, or how long after launch, would still have to fly up, and up, until it is a mere SPECK in the sky?

Obviously, it would have to, right?


Even a child could grasp this, so why don't you get it?

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: turbonium1

The elephant in the room is still here, it will not go away, it will not vanish, it has no excuses, so deal with it, or deny the reality, it's your choice..

Good advice!!

You should take it.

Nobody has seen a rocket fly until it is a speck, but, hey, if there's some 'moving lights' above us, which nobody can see, ever, at night, then it must be the ISS, in 'orbit'!

Why? Since they TOLD us where the ISS would be seen, above Earth, obviously!

They never have TOLD us where to see a rocket, BEFORE that, when we would actually SEE the rocket, going up, and up, until it was only a small speck, above us, in the sky!!


It's simply an illusion - a rocket goes up, veers off, over the ocean, out of all view, and the rest is purely a fantasy tale.

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: turbonium1

The elephant in the room is still here, it will not go away, it will not vanish, it has no excuses, so deal with it, or deny the reality, it's your choice..

Good advice!!

You should take it.

Nobody has seen a rocket fly until it is a speck, but, hey, if there's some 'moving lights' above us, which nobody can see, ever, at night, then it must be the ISS, in 'orbit'!

Why? Since they TOLD us where the ISS would be seen, above Earth, obviously!

They never have TOLD us where to see a rocket, BEFORE that, when we would actually SEE the rocket, going up, and up, until it was only a small speck, above us, in the sky!!


It's simply an illusion - a rocket goes up, veers off, over the ocean, out of all view, and the rest is purely a fantasy tale.

Yet again another complete set of falshehoods and fabrications.

Anyone can go see a rocket launch.

Anyone.

The times of the launches are widely available. Anyone can film them. There are numerous films taken by professionals and amateurs alike of rockets being launched and disappearing into a small speck, you just choose to stick your head in the sand, pretend you haven't seen them, or claim they are fake. Your should be ashamed of your dishonesty.

The ISS can be seen regularly, and with a good enough camera you can make out the details of it. The fact that its appearance is predictable and that it can be viewed from locations many many miles apart at the same time tells you how high up it is, and the time it takes to appear and disappear in different locations tells you how fast it is going. Feel free to provide any evidence you like that it is not what and where it says it is.

Here it is photographed with a 30 second exposure from my garden. I was able to do this because I knew exactly where and when it would appear.