Why Didn't America Take Over the World (1945-1950)

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Germany was too far behind..they where working on it but did not have the infrastructure and money to make atomic weapons..it cost over 2 billion to develop the Manhattan project.

I thought we stole German scientists to make ours?? But reguardless it's an interesting question.

That's operation paperclip, and it was Einstein and Oppenheimer that were the true masterminds of the bomb.

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Phage

Yes von Braun..I think it was the German's that discovered the potential from splitting the atom no?

Einstin was a German Jew we smuggled out if I'm right.

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Phage

Yes von Braun..I think it was the German's that discovered the potential from splitting the atom no?

Von Braun was the rocket guy, he designed the missiles to carry the loads.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Germany was too far behind..they where working on it but did not have the infrastructure and money to make atomic weapons..it cost over 2 billion to develop the Manhattan project.

I thought we stole German scientists to make ours?? But reguardless it's an interesting question.

That's operation paperclip, and it was Einstein and Oppenheimer that were the true masterminds of the bomb.

Didn't einstine flee the nazis?? That means he started in their clutches. It isn't hard to imagaine the alternative reality that saw Germany win the war. Also saw Einstein stuck in Germany.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Phage

Yes von Braun..I think it was the German's that discovered the potential from splitting the atom no?

Von Braun was the rocket guy, he designed the missiles to carry the loads.

The "Von Braun Civic Center" in Huntsville, Alabama hosted AC/DC back in the day..... awesome concert

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Germany was too far behind..they where working on it but did not have the infrastructure and money to make atomic weapons..it cost over 2 billion to develop the Manhattan project.

I thought we stole German scientists to make ours?? But reguardless it's an interesting question.

That's operation paperclip, and it was Einstein and Oppenheimer that were the true masterminds of the bomb.

Didn't einstine flee the nazis?? That means he started in their clutches. It isn't hard to imagaine the alternative reality that saw Germany win the war. Also saw Einstein stuck in Germany.

Einstein didn't flee, he was persecuted because his beliefs went against the reich's. He left on his own accord.

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: JoshuaCox

wwi we joined months before the end, in ww2 we waited 2 years due to isolationist sentiment and anti-war protests, korea was started between themselves(we just helped the favorable side), vietnam was fought for france and the dutch, iraq 1 was fought for kuwait and we never set foot in most cities, kosovo war was fought because europe asked us to intervene, afghanistan was mostly fought by rebel war lords and US air power, iraq 2 was an exception, libya and syria were initiated by europe and we took over later on and we barely put boots on the ground either time,with isis we are barely doing any real fighting against.

most conflicts since ww2 we have used air power and blitz tactics or special ops backed with air support, we americans rarely actually risk our necks physically in conflict as much as possible.

That is the most efficient way to fight lol...

Sure you can say that 200 man spartan shield wall is tougher, but a dozen seals with modern weapons rip them to pieces.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Germany was too far behind..they where working on it but did not have the infrastructure and money to make atomic weapons..it cost over 2 billion to develop the Manhattan project.

I thought we stole German scientists to make ours?? But reguardless it's an interesting question.

That's operation paperclip, and it was Einstein and Oppenheimer that were the true masterminds of the bomb.

Didn't einstine flee the nazis?? That means he started in their clutches. It isn't hard to imagaine the alternative reality that saw Germany win the war. Also saw Einstein stuck in Germany.

Einstein didn't flee, he was persecuted because his beliefs went against the reich's. He left on his own accord.

Didn't he sneak out?? Or did he jump ship early enough?

I seem to remember it was a close run thing.


My Einstein is rusty lol

a reply to: madmac5150

The old timers had lot's to teach us..wish I realised it before they had to go.

originally posted by: madmac5150

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Phage

Yes von Braun..I think it was the German's that discovered the potential from splitting the atom no?

Von Braun was the rocket guy, he designed the missiles to carry the loads.

The "Von Braun Civic Center" in Huntsville, Alabama hosted AC/DC back in the day..... awesome concert

Of all the WW2 names, Von Braun stands out simply because of his breakthroughs in rocket tech. Without him we literally wouldn't have gone to the moon!

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Germany was too far behind..they where working on it but did not have the infrastructure and money to make atomic weapons..it cost over 2 billion to develop the Manhattan project.

I thought we stole German scientists to make ours?? But reguardless it's an interesting question.

That's operation paperclip, and it was Einstein and Oppenheimer that were the true masterminds of the bomb.

Didn't einstine flee the nazis?? That means he started in their clutches. It isn't hard to imagaine the alternative reality that saw Germany win the war. Also saw Einstein stuck in Germany.

Einstein didn't flee, he was persecuted because his beliefs went against the reich's. He left on his own accord.

Didn't he sneak out?? Or did he jump ship early enough?

I seem to remember it was a close run thing.


My Einstein is rusty lol

It didn't matter....

...it wasn't relative....

originally posted by: madmac5150

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: JoshuaCox

What was the state of human rights and intelligence at that period?

Total crap lol...

Well maybe not intelligence , but 1950's America wasn't exactly known for its tolerance of different cultures lol.

Yet, it is still known as "The Greatest Generation".... why? Look at the sacrifices made by Americans in the 40's. How many of us died to free Europe?

We are but a shadow of what THEY were.

Said every generation ever.. about its preceding generation.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Nuh uh.

My generation is the awesomist. Pay no attention to the drummer.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Germany was too far behind..they where working on it but did not have the infrastructure and money to make atomic weapons..it cost over 2 billion to develop the Manhattan project.

I thought we stole German scientists to make ours?? But reguardless it's an interesting question.

That's operation paperclip, and it was Einstein and Oppenheimer that were the true masterminds of the bomb.

Didn't einstine flee the nazis?? That means he started in their clutches. It isn't hard to imagaine the alternative reality that saw Germany win the war. Also saw Einstein stuck in Germany.

Einstein didn't flee, he was persecuted because his beliefs went against the reich's. He left on his own accord.

Didn't he sneak out?? Or did he jump ship early enough?

I seem to remember it was a close run thing.


My Einstein is rusty lol

Was never that with Einstein. He left on his own accord in 1932. Way before the war.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Nuh uh.

My generation is the awesomist.

WHO would have guessed that?

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: namehere
well lets think about how rome, macedonia, mongolia, russia, the US and canada got so big.

much less people lived in all these places than in the world in 1945 and the targets were mostly far less advanced and not used to war.

less people = easier conquest

but the biggest reason is that americans are mostly cowards that hate fighting and look for the easiest way to benefit off others, that's why we put so much focus on air and sea power, on drones, missiles, on space, technology, etc.

we have always stayed at a distance from combat and rarely get into full scale wars

Lol we love to fight...

We love to fight soooo much we don't nuke people so we can..

I don't think it is that easy to push that nuke button.

In America it is.. our system is set up with the expectation there is only like 7 min of "prep time"..

That's not time to have a congressional hearing lol.

That's " president trump. Here is the info you have 4 min to decide. "

a reply to: Vector99

Yes, Phage referred to the rocket scientists that came out of Germany.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Nuh uh.

My generation is the awesomist.

WHO would have guessed that?

Lol

a reply to: Vector99

Yes..I thought 33? but in any case he saw what was coming.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: madmac5150

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: JoshuaCox

What was the state of human rights and intelligence at that period?

Total crap lol...

Well maybe not intelligence , but 1950's America wasn't exactly known for its tolerance of different cultures lol.

Yet, it is still known as "The Greatest Generation".... why? Look at the sacrifices made by Americans in the 40's. How many of us died to free Europe?

We are but a shadow of what THEY were.

Said every generation ever.. about its preceding generation.

I served my country for 21 years. I NEVER, in my 21 years had to deal with the conditions that they did. What they went through is beyond comprehension.

That is truth....

I owe my MSgt stripe to every Airman that ever preceded me.