Petition Demanding Donald Trump Release His Tax Returns Breaks White House Record

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

"Taxez???? We don' need no steenking taxezz!!"

400,000 votes??? That's really quite a poor effort. Over here in the UK we got as many for a football ref after he made a bad decision and we have 1/6th the population.

I think this shows that it's a non issue.
This must be quite disappointing for those that claimed this was important, although they probably should have taken the hint from his election win.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Middleoftheroad

I know you don't care currently, but you are shooting yourself in the foot with this statement. All you are going to do is cause the liberals to fight harder against the Trump agenda. Yes, that means more protests and possibly even riots.

Well if they want to continue to riot in their own communities then go right ahead. I don't live in the city and they aren't anything but the laughing stock of America right now anyways. I hope all the rioters end up with a hefty jail sentence and fines.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

You clearly are trying everything in your power to not admit that there is nothing I could present to you that would get you to agree that the American people want to see Trump's taxes.

That is not true.
The poll you sited is just that, a poll. It is not what you started this thread about and it is not what you sited when you stated this is what "the american people" wanted.
The online petition you sited is ridiculous. To try and use it to prove what "the american people want" is ridiculous.

I have no doubt that at least those who did not vote for trump want him to release his taxes. Probably a lot of people who did vote for him want him to release them. That has nothing to do with an online petition. Especially one that only has 380k sigs.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Of course we don't care about the polls. How could we trust the polls that told us we had no chance of our candidate making it to where he is today

That's not what the polls said. It's not their fault you're incapable of understanding them. You should probably blame your schooling and parents for not teaching you better.

All polls work on a percentage system. They say there's a w% chance of something ending up between results x and y, with the midpoint of that given as z. For example, there's an 80% chance Hillary wins with 51% to 55% (53%) of the vote. What gets reported though is "It's more likely than not, that Hillary won with 53%". That then further gets distilled by incompetent authors and mass media to "Polls say Hillary wins with 53%". Totally ignoring that there's still a 20% chance where Hillary doesn't win. Hillary not winning, doesn't suddenly make the poll wrong, it means we hit the percentage of the time where the other result happened.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Yes it is true and you just proved it with that ridiculous reasoning you just gave me.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Dude, are you really that obtuse??? If I conducted a poll asking if everyone wanted to see their next-door neighbor's taxes, how do you think they'd respond?? What about Bruce Springsteen's taxes, or some other celebrity's taxes?? People are naturally nosy! They're always going to vote to force someone reveal personal information!

Of course there's going to be lots of people who vote in these silly on-line petitions! If I posted an on-line poll asking if people wanted Liz Hurley to show her underwear, you know what? There'd probably be MILLIONS of people who would vote!

Why do you think the tabloids have followers???? People want dirt, they want scandal, they want something to compare their own meager existences to.

You just want some shred of dirt on the guy (something/anything)...and you know taxes are a great way to do it. Sadly, everyone else knows this too! That's why these people don't react to on-line polls...and shouldn't.

C'mon, man!

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Of course we don't care about the polls. How could we trust the polls that told us we had no chance of our candidate making it to where he is today

That's not what the polls said. It's not their fault you're incapable of understanding them. You should probably blame your schooling and parents for not teaching you better.

All polls work on a percentage system. They say there's a w% chance of something ending up between results x and y, with the midpoint of that given as z. For example, there's an 80% chance Hillary wins with 51% to 55% (53%) of the vote. What gets reported though is "It's more likely than not, that Hillary won with 53%". That then further gets distilled by incompetent authors and mass media to "Polls say Hillary wins with 53%". Totally ignoring that there's still a 20% chance where Hillary doesn't win. Hillary not winning, doesn't suddenly make the poll wrong, it means we hit the percentage of the time where the other result happened.

Whatever makes you feel better at the end of the day I suppose. But my opinion of the polls still stands as propaganda, not accurate, and confirmation bias.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Why are you getting angry at me? I haven't even discussed anything with you.

Also why do you have a problem with Trump honoring the precedent that Presidents release their tax returns? You seem to ignore that point in your crazy rant about celebrity taxes that have no precedent for tax releases to the public.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I'm not angry (at all actually). I'm responding to you because you always go off on these crazy tangents (hence the moniker I guess).

The dude is going to release his taxes, or he isn't going to release taxes. Whatever decision it is, will be the decision...and there's not a damn thing some on-line internet "poll" is going to do about it one way or the other! Placing some huge credence in the vote tallies of an on-line poll as justification is just silly. Sure people want to see his taxes. I'd like to see the Pope's taxes too, but that ain't gonna' happen. In fact, I'd like to see your taxes. How about posting them up(?) If I started an on-line poll and 800,000 people voted yes...would you do it then?

See??

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Who cares? That is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Um, news flash. The topic at hand is irrelevant. If all Americans and 800,000 illegal Mexicans from California (with legal DL's) signed the petition, it still wouldn't force anyone to release their tax records.

Why not lead by example and post yours here?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Who cares? That is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Um, news flash. The topic at hand is irrelevant. If all Americans and 800,000 illegal Mexicans from California (with legal DL's) signed the petition, it still wouldn't force anyone to release their tax records.

Why not lead by example and post yours here?

Because I didn't run for President.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Then prove it's a big deal. The fact is that .086% of Americans signed a petition.

The fact that it is the biggest petition ever on whitehouse.gov doesn't mean it is a big deal to you? You only need 100,000 signatures for a white house response on the matter.

You guys are quite new to petitions like this. It's not really surprising that a record was set after this election.
The fact remains it is a very small number and is certainly not a barometer of how Americans feel.
In the UK, we're more used to this. Justice for Chunky the Dog got 573,000 signatories.

As I mentioned earlier, the number of signatories is low and turns the page on it all. Not enough interest, obviously. I am sure it will grow as the marketing campaign picks up, but it's going nowhere. You backed a losing horse.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Where is the law stating the president has to release his tax returns?

Why are you any different? Hmmmm???

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Where is the law stating the President has to release his birth certificate?

a reply to: UKTruth

Great. UK is different than the US. News at 11.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Where is the law stating the president has to release his tax returns?

Why are you any different? Hmmmm???

Question: Do you know what a legal precedent is and why they are so important to our government?

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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Heh, that's a good one! Nice come back! (seriously)

Touche'!

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yes, I am acutely aware of legal precedent in case law. What you are stating/requesting is not such a legal precedent...nor anything even remotely resembling it!

(buzzer)

Thanks for playing.