There's no mental illness

a reply to: supermilkman

Psychology is a behavioral norm in the western culture, i believe if we had healthier loving relationships to our closest family and friends without a mask, we wouldnt need psychology.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: supermilkman


You don't "invent" the illnesses I listed

For someone who believes so much in science you seem to be completely ignoring the vast majority of science behind extreme personality disorders

So why was homosexuality considered a mental illness?

Describe "personality disorder" in your own words.

"Hey, I don't like your personality. I'm going to diagnose you and put you on medicine."

That is FASCIST!

a reply to: supermilkman

Personality disorder in my very own words;" Dopamine malfunction in the Western culture "

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: supermilkman

Psychology is a behavioral norm in the western culture, i believe if we had healthier loving relationships to our closest family and friends without a mask, we wouldnt need psychology.

Psychology is pseudoscience. There really isn't any such thing as "normal."

Your Native Americans on Indian reservations believed that marijuana and peyote were religious sacraments. Your traditional conservatives think drugs are bad (even though they probably drink at the pub).

There are just different cultural belief systems. One isn't any more "right" than the other.

Maybe people who watch violent movies or play violent video games should be diagnosed as well? Shouldn't that be considered abnormal/immoral? Yet you see people routinely engage in these activities and are seen as socially acceptable.

Why is it that a couple can watch some horror flick and be seen as "socially acceptable" but other behaviors are not?

People are just hypocrites.

a reply to: supermilkman

Lets do it your way, " I have 300.000.000 humans living in close quarters, now get them to function without killing each other "

a reply to: tikbalang

Dopamine malfunction?

Have you ever thought that it was drugs/medicine that is giving them this dopamine malfunction?

Doesn't diet, balanced nutrition, and exercise regulate your chemicals to healthy levels?

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: supermilkman

Lets do it your way, " I have 300.000.000 humans living in close quarters, now get them to function without killing each other "

You got to keep 'em seperated.

a reply to: supermilkman

Healthy diet doesnt provide any dopamine but overeating does, exercise provides dopamine (if) you push your threshold, its about muscle memory, not exercising.

Dopamine is regulated in a normal phase, has to do with learning to adjust to the environment surroundings up until you reach puberty then its regulated by hormones, well sex actually. If you are raised in a loving environment ( oxytocin ) you could regulate the dopamine surge fairly easy.

DOpAmiNe MaLfunction

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Get in touch with your spirituality. Let go of the hate. People are tired of war.

a reply to: supermilkman

We are pack animals, im trying to be very tolerant cause you are from the American culture.

SO all these year's that i have been battling depression, PTSD and suicidal thought's is just in my head (pun intended).

It is sad when people who do not suffer depression or mental illeness believe that "we depressed people" are full of s###.

I would love to be "normal" and love life, yes i did love life at one time but that love was ripped out of my hand's and i now struggle.

Have you ever woke up in the morning and literally felt your life crumple around your ankles and then spend the next few hours contemplating suicide?!?!?!? Believe me, it is not fun and i sooooo wish i never had them thoughts because it is soooo bloody scary but i do and i have to live with that.

Yes anti-deprssants cause suicidal thoughts and that is unacceptable but without anti-depressants there would be a lot more dead people, trust me..!

Supermilkman, if you walked a week in my life i can assure you, you would be looking at this thread very differently.

"Psychology is pseudoscience", i hope them words never come back to bite you

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: tikbalang

Dopamine malfunction?

Have you ever thought that it was drugs/medicine that is giving them this dopamine malfunction?

Doesn't diet, balanced nutrition, and exercise regulate your chemicals to healthy levels?

well, let's talk about your credentials. Where did you study psychology and or psychiatry, nutrition, or whatever you studied? What degrees do you hold? What studies have you performed? How many years have you proffessionally worked in the field? If the answer to any of these is nope or none, why should anyone be listening to you?

First of all, I like to think we're all crazy in some way or another, so there is no such thing as a benchmark for sanity.

Secondly, there are people who's craziness goes to the extreme, and they need help.

I'm not too good at putting my thoughts down right now since I just woke up and I'm not a morning person , but I have been in a mental hospital, I've been to psychiatrists... I've seen insanity. I'm not insane, not any more than the next average person no matter what they label me; And as a person with a normal amount of crazy being labeled with various extreme amounts of crazy names, I can see a point to your thread.

Their job is to find some kind of label to put on you. If you're ever forced in front of a psychiatrist against your qill, they WILL call you something and medicate you for it. They meet you one time and think they know you enough to label you with some vague textbook definition of a disorder and give you pills.

When I took those pills, they called them a 'mood stabilizer', I was more angry than ever. I woke up early one morning and immediately started looking for a knife to... well, do something terrible... and I was fortunate enough that I had some normal mental faculties left that told me to stop, and to ditch the meds too. I've been fine without them for over 10 years, but it only took a week for those pills to almost change me into a monster.

It's that reason I believe it when they call them mass murder pills, and the pharmaceutical companies want as many people as possible on them so they can make their money.

a reply to: supermilkman

I probably shouldn't have used the song but the idea is better city planning and a populace that is mostly seperated from each other.

I understand that space is important. People want their space so to keep large groups of people from being violent you have to give them their space, their entertainment, and other privileges that will keep them docile.

You have to keep people placated for them to not get angry. The police and military is also used to counter tribalism.

So for your group of 300 million people you have to spread them out, give them careers, give them entertainment/recreation they would enjoy, and use law enforcement/military to keep everyone at bay.

a reply to: Aldakoopa

Sorry about your troubles. Personally I don't advise psych medicine but then that would be unprofessional to tell others to not take them. I understand the health risks behind them however.

My advise is to get more in touch with abstraction, art, music, entertainment.

Keep yourself busy with useful hobbies and trades as well.

You are a rock and the world is fire. The fire is refining you to become a better, more sharper rock, if you will.

Natural selection at a genetic level is about keeping good genes and throwing away bad/useless genes to improve chances of survival.

Natural selection at a social level is improving your mind, body, and spirit in any field possible. This also means eliminating bad behaviors, excess clutter, enhancing good features etc.

As they say, be all you can be.

a reply to: supermilkman

So for your group of 300 million people you have to spread them out, give them careers, give them entertainment/recreation they would enjoy, and use law enforcement/military to keep everyone at bay.

Give? Im guessing you are fairly young, if you take away the simple things you take granted if life, computer, games, porn, food, well i could the list very long, what would you do? All the stimuli you been provided, just gone. Does it make your life not worth living?

You want someone to give you a stimuli package? So you dont kill your neighbor? Nothing wrong with the picture?
You want someone to give you a career?

Do you think anyone could work at NASA? Better city planning? You mean build ghost cities like in China?

Im tolerant cause you are an American

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: tikbalang

Dopamine malfunction?

Have you ever thought that it was drugs/medicine that is giving them this dopamine malfunction?

Doesn't diet, balanced nutrition, and exercise regulate your chemicals to healthy levels?

well, let's talk about your credentials. Where did you study psychology and or psychiatry, nutrition, or whatever you studied? What degrees do you hold? What studies have you performed? How many years have you proffessionally worked in the field? If the answer to any of these is nope or none, why should anyone be listening to you?

I only did a semester for an AAS (associates applied science) at a community college.

Credentials are somewhat of a moot point, especially seeing that I have quoted MD's and former psychiatrists like Thomas Szasz that stated there isn't any mental illness.

If credentials are important then shouldn't these psychiatrists and doctors', whom have degrees and practiced for years, opinions be considered important?

When you got former mental health workers saying there isn't any mental illness that should speak for it self.

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: eirgud

There's no mental illness. End of story.

...oh... i see... i was obviously not paying enough attention to my situation over the years... It is good that the world is full of amazing people who know the truth about how our minds work and are willing to share it.

I will go tell my family the great news! Thanks

a reply to: eirgud

To put things into perspective:

...Gary Greenberg recounts that, in 1850, a physician called Samuel Cartwright reported a new disease in the highly respected New Orleans Medical and Surgical Journal. Cartwright named it drapetomania, from the ancient Greek drapetes for a runaway slave; in other words, here was a disease that “caused Negroes to run away”. It had one primary diagnostic symptom – “absconding from service” – and a few secondary ones, including “sulkiness and dissatisfaction just prior to flight”.

Drapetomania was, of course, consigned to the dustbin of medical history. It never made it into the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the leading authority on mental health diagnosis and research. But, Greenberg suggests in his scathing critique of the DSM, it might well have done – had the manual existed at the time.

After all, he notes, homosexuality was listed as a “sociopathic personality disorder” when the DSM was first published in 1952, and remained so until 1973. “Doctors were paid to treat it, scientists to search for its causes and cures,” he writes in The Book of Woe: The DSM and the Unmaking of Psychiatry. “Gay people themselves underwent countless therapies including electric shocks, years on the couch, behaviour modification and surrogate sex.” -Telegraph UK

The mental health system is coercive, controlling, and fascist!

Quit drinking the koolaid.

a reply to: eirgud

Drapetomania
en.m.wikipedia.org...

Drapetomania was a conjectural mental illness that, in 1851, American physician Samuel A. Cartwright hypothesized to cause Black slaves to flee captivity.[1]:41 It has since been debunked as pseudoscience[2]:2 and part of the edifice of scientific racism. - wikipedia