There's no mental illness

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: Abysha

You're right, sometimes this labeling is used to determine outcomes or sets of behavior/modes of thinking.

I still don't believe in mental illness or agree much with the established system. I support more transevolution psychology that the current mental health system doesn't acknowledge.

If anything the Akira movie is about human potential and evolution. That's why I have the avatar. Not to the point of blurring reality with fantasy but I appreciate it's themes.

One of the best soundtracks ever.

Am I correct to reword what you just said basically as "I don't believe in the authoritative psychological stance that abnormalities in the human psyche are illnesses and, instead, should be treated as possible genetic anomalies much like what has always been required for any species to evolve"?

Because to me, psychology medicine isn't doing anything "wrong" by that standard; it just seems like they should be doing more if they are to address the things you are talking about.

a reply to: Abysha

Read my third industrial revolution and industry 4.0 thread. Many of the suggestions could improve our current system.

a reply to: Abysha

But they are THROWING around psychotropics all the time!
EVEN a REGULAR physician can prescribe them from an UNQUALIFIED knowledge.
ONLY a psychiatrist could tell is the brains chemistry is actually out of balance and should be THE SOLE prescriber of those meds.

a reply to: Abysha

So yeah, you can be depressed but it's caused by external/environmental cues. I don't think medicine is necessary. The system needs reformation which will ultimately improve quality of life and give human rights to others.

originally posted by: supermilkman
I have concluded that there never was any mental illnesses to begin with.

Psychiatry is not only pseudo-science but also one of the most criminal practices ever!

Either you have never spent any time on a psychiatric ward as a visitor, or you have spent time there as a patient but you were an "innocent man, perfectly mentally healthy, but falsely accused" by those evil fraudulent psychiatrists.

Mental illness is very, very real.

a reply to: supermilkman

The "mental" of mental illness is the psyche.

I added a note in my above post to help you understand how you are wrong.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Well those psychiatrists are making people worse with their medicine. There is NO benefit from psychiatric medicine.

a reply to: supermilkman

I'LL TELL YOU I'm a trained monster I can sneak with the best.
It's a matter of what you decide to DO with such skills.
I somehow can't equate any academia to warfare or combat , its only a guess without empirical knowledge (Getting shot at usually does the trick ,MINE was artillery and all the bodies)they are simply a part of human existance that is a failure .
ALSO I detest popular cultural values (Curmudgeon comes to mind of course)and have little user for this new PC movement I am at war with.

AND WHY the HELL do anti psychotics(Gabapentin) work as sleeping pills?

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Have you thought about joining the police academy? Sometimes police work can fill the void that many returning veterans talk about.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Drugs are used to keep you down.

And to be honest, the male dominant ego probably needs to get more in touch with their feminine side.

Liberalism will save you my friend.

originally posted by: supermilkman

The mental health system rejects the person's religious beliefs.

No it doesn't. Not in my neck of the woods anyway. The difficulty is in separating out beliefs that come from cultural backgrounds that we are not familiar with. I have some some fairly bizarre things excluded from the diagnosis because they were known to be artifacts of the patient's cultural background but didn't put the patient or others at risk.

originally posted by: supermilkman
Many believe in the paranormal/spirit world so why should they be considered hallucinations?

Another way of looking at this is "lots of people are deluded, some of them also hallucinate".

a reply to: Bleeeeep

I understand. I still think society is giving people mental problems.

a reply to: EvillerBob

True a lot of God belief is delusional but there are many that do believe in the paranormal and are still cognizant.

In fact many people have found renewed faith and a will to live when realizing there's an afterlife.

For many their moral/religious compass is what makes an individual an upright contributing member to society.

a reply to: supermilkman

I REALLY haven't the temper if I'm shot at or attacked I kill it fast.
DAMN the laws or values all I'm worried about is BULLET travel,my brother is a detective.HE agrees.
Progressive values require authoritative subservience to an authority and MOSTLY is is based on collectivist thinking that come from socialist edicts created by the hippies and beatniks,who infiltrated academia FOR that specific intent.
It precludes the need for essentially victim hood in the face of confrontation.
I was RAISED conservative and THEY blew it with Bush
NOW I am a retired person waiting for meds to off me.

a reply to: EvillerBob

Psych wards are used for people that are a danger to themselves or others. They're used as a step down from jails and state hospitals.

Many of the patients really aren't dangerous. Many of them are homeless so they end up going into a psych ward to have a bed and food to eat.

Others are put in for drug/alcohol use, counseling, nervous breakdowns and petty issues.

originally posted by: supermilkman

Yes, I agree. There are many variables that are ignored when psychiatrists give diagnosis codes.

Lifestyle, income bracket, whether they drink or drug, nutrition, phase of life development, infectious diseases etc.

Err... no. All of these things can form part of the assessment if relevant.

Where are you pulling your extensive knowledge of the psychiatric system from? Youtube? Wikipedia?

a reply to: cavtrooper7

There's this book called Empathic Civilization. Here's an excerpt from it:

Never has the world seemed so completely united-in the form of communication, commerce, and culture-and so savagely torn apart-in the form of war, financial meltdown, global warming, and even the migration of diseases.

No matter how much we put our minds to the task of meeting the challenges of a rapidly globalizing world, the human race seems to continually come up short, unable to muster the collective mental resources to truly “think globally and act locally.” In his most ambitious book to date, bestselling social critic Jeremy Rifkin shows that this disconnect between our vision for the world and our ability to realize that vision lies in the current state of human consciousness. The very way our brains are structured disposes us to a way of feeling, thinking, and acting in the world that is no longer entirely relevant to the new environments we have created for ourselves.

The human-made environment is rapidly morphing into a global space, yet our existing modes of consciousness are structured for earlier eras of history, which are just as quickly fading away. Humanity, Rifkin argues, finds itself on the cusp of its greatest experiment to date: refashioning human consciousness so that human beings can mutually live and flourish in the new globalizing society… - Empathic Civilization

Empathic Civilization


The meaning to the Vitruvian Man - you can move down the chains to violence or up the chains to creationism and altruism.


You're either a fighter or you're a humble servant.

a reply to: supermilkman

Another excerpt about the book

As the forces of globalization accelerate, deepen, and become ever more complex, the older faith-based and rational forms of consciousness are likely to become stressed, and even dangerous, as they attempt to navigate a world increasingly beyond their reach and control.

Indeed, the emergence of this empathetic consciousness has implications for the future that will likely be as profound and far-reaching as when Enlightenment philosophers upended faith-based consciousness with the canon of reason. - Empathic Civilization

a reply to: EvillerBob

Studying the DSM and reading the Myth of Mental Illness by former psychiatrist Thomas Szasz that has practiced in the field for years.

We weren't TRAINED to fight we were trained ONLY to win.
Mission is life then.
THAT was a dubious value to learn ILL TELL YOU.
But we haven't lost a battle yet ..accept for Little Big Horn ,but the orders were FU##ED and they were wrong to assault the indians,as the pipeline situation clearly delineates.
My guys were their AND at the Bundy ranch. The Feds backed off.
NOW we are recon and QUITE good.
EVERYONE knows the 7th Cav.
BUT having pride in ones skills as a trooper is eschewed by the progressive so ...it reads as enemy.