Why I Agree with the Georgia Guidestones to a NWO and You Should Too!

a reply to: StratosFear

Thank you for sharing that clip of Andromeda, it really puts things into an interesting perspective and it is genuinely humbling.
Astronomy has always been a great passion of mine and I believe everyone else has a part of their brain that's simply designed to experience it in incredible ways, it's just we don't spend much time exploring it. The cosmos creates within us the essence of "Wonder".

I also think that's a fairly relevant Star Wars reference, and it's food for thought to ponder.

And I like your avatar and screen name, the Blackbird was always one of my favorites as a kid.

originally posted by: ketsuko


If you give a woman complete autonomy over her woman bits,

I don't think that's the issue per se. It's a control based reaction without utilizing wisdom or foresight.

I think the issue is about offering women good educations and encouraging them with enough self-esteem and facilitating an environment where people respect them and treat them properly so that they will, on their own volition, make the right choices and be considerate of the future when making those decisions without anyone having to tell them what to do.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: muzzleflash

the big problem with tennat # 1 is :

a - it will take a very long time to impliment [ via acceptable doctirines in birth control and reduction of population growth ] - esp as all current trends are reducing infant mortality and extending median life expentancy in almost all countries

b - acceptable doctrine - clearly does not work in the real world - as evidence i cite the chinese " one child rule "

this leaves 2 otions :

i - wait and hope for a naturalistic " depolulation vector " - that we can niether prevent or mitigate - ir giant meteor or untreatable epedemic

which in my opinion is silly and unrealistic - hey certain cultists have been waiting for jebus to return for 2000 years - its not happening for them

and pinning the worlds hopes on " giant meteor 20** " is just as silly

ii - bite the bullet and kill 7 out of every 8 [ or a reduced factor to balance " losses " by acceptable means ]

thats why tennant #1 - sticks in people throat

Ok Thank you ape for actually creating a thought out response with content. I apologize for slamming you an hour ago, I was responding to posts in order by page and didn't see your response after I went to sleep so just found it.

I still implore you to use capitalization and punctuation, it doesn't have to be perfect.

Now about your comments:

I do not think it matters if it takes a 'long time' to address these problems because we are talking about a long term future paradigm here. We are always very impatient and desire an immediate solution and that's usually not feasible, as you pointed out. So unless we have a 'natural depopulation vector', as you put it, anything reasonable and lawful we can employ to these ends (suggestion #1), will indeed take a long time. Maybe 50 to 150 years to really balance out.

And in terms of a giant meteor I do not believe we can afford to use that because it's completely out of our control to manage the impact's destructive powers on our civilization, the natural environment/atmosphere, or the Earth's crust.

We should be working towards a meteor/asteroid protection grid and developing multiple layers of defense against them and always try our best to deflect them away from our precious planet. We simply cannot afford not to.

Thanks again for actually discussing the topic matter and giving your ideas about it!

originally posted by: imjack
500 million is arbitrarily designated. This is why they don't have a source, because the reasoning behind it would face real criticism and then the mysterious rocks would suck.

500 million in the State of Texas could cause a hole in the Ozone with pollution being isolated to a single spot. Clean energy could change the concept of pollution entirely, despite billions.

Good point.

I would guess that the mere suggestion of 500 million is also an advertising gimmick of the sorts, although it might not have originally been intended to achieve that end. It was put as #1 though when it could have been in any of the other slots.

It really gets people's attention and promotes discussion and even seems great at getting people fired up and going.

You made a rather astute observation there imjack.

originally posted by: spite
a reply to: muzzleflash

I don't really see humanity advancing as a whole without globalism, honestly I don't, but we're so deep in this hole of greed that I don't even think we can implement it without those who regulate / implement it rigging it from the start. And even if we DID avoid that little hitch, we would have to abandon our humanity just to get to that 500M goal. It's a great idea on paper, but I sometimes wonder if it's too late.

Although I do truly understand your cynicism and doubt, because I typically espouse such an attitude and can be incredibly pessimistic and critical at times, I designed my OP with the aim of offering a optimistic and hopeful outlook to the readers here including yourself.

I encourage you to voice your ideas no matter how cynical they might be, and I certainly sympathize with them and share your many concerns. I cannot disagree with the basic gist of your post other than to remind you that good people still exist and that we can and will make a difference if we just try.

Great ideas on paper are great ideas.

That cliche came about (to my knowledge) referencing Marxism and Communism and lamenting the reality of the brutality and grotesque insanity that became the USSR after the Revolution. And so to that I must say:
Communism-Marxism was a horrible idea on paper and a horrible idea in practice.

In comparison, a Constitutional Republic was a good idea on paper and proved to be a good idea in practice.
But it wasn't a Great Idea as we have seen because there are many loopholes and problems that have become painfully evidence since we put this idea into practice just a few centuries ago.

But consider the practical reality here, as rational minded political scientists, the Enlightenment thinkers that laid the foundation for a Constitutional Republic in it's current format did not have much time or reference to draw from, they still had yet to perform the field experiments (which is what we are doing for them right now).

With the results we have been observing we can make corrections and improvements to those original ideas because it was a good idea on paper and in practice. With our 'fixes' we can turn it into a Great Idea.

In a way, the Georgia Guidestones give us a few 'findings' and suggestions to make those types of fixes, though it's vague and not addressing much specifically.

In terms of 'Globalization', that is not only inevitable it has been reality for centuries. When Europe colonized (or subjugated) the rest of the world that was a type of globalization on a slower smaller scale. Today with aircraft, trains, fleets of ships, automobiles, telecommunications networks, satellites, and even a space station - globalization is quickening and ongoing. In fact we could say we are in the 4th stage of globalization, and what we call 'globalism' is really a debate on how to best manage this unstoppable reality (in political and economic terms) that is the process of human globalization.

When you say "rigged", that's really all people want - is to not have another rigged system that plays against their interests while benefiting the few. If it is free, fair, and reasonable than nearly everyone will not only sign up, they'll be so excited about the prospects that it'll be a whole new paradigm for humanity.

originally posted by: dashen

And who exactly gets to be in charge of this Grand Plan?
Who gets to choose the members of the 500 million club?

And now back to your post and the 28 stars that show it's support:

I challenge Alex Jones to invite me on the show and discuss this thread and it's premise plus the topics and ideals expressed in the many pages of comments resulting from it.

I absolutely guarantee that AJ will agree with me outright on air, and that it'd be a fruitful discussion. He would even be glad to have me on to discuss it because we'd share a well thought out, reasoned, and enlightened conversation.

But where would that leave you? You'd have two distinct choices -

1) To listen to our discussion with an open mind and realize that this all makes a lot of sense and that it actually agrees with many of your sentiments... or

2) To continue on the path of poor reading comprehension and lacking critical thinking and to again fall back on ad hominem arguments by insulting AJ with terminology like "you sell-out!" or "AJ is a globalist shill scumbag!". Because you technically have no valid position to argue from.

Ignorance and a terrible education is the problem here. You should reconsider and apologize for the mistake.
And all 28 accounts that starred your post should do the same, then Man up and openly apologize to me for judging me in such a negative way without having any rational basis to do so. One of you might have Honor but I doubt two of you would.

I always try to apologize for others when I make mistakes and misjudge them or their arguments. I will even apologize if they made a mistake and I reacted to harshly yet they turned around and did the right thing because I believe in good manners, courteous reconciliation, and doing the right thing even if it's unpopular.

And you know what, though I've made mistakes and do every day, I can admit to it and I'm proud to do so. And get this, the best part is - I stay on top. I maintain my spot on the top because when I screw up and slip, I'll admit to it and make amends with the people I wronged. That constant attempt at honesty and amicable decorum while fighting furiously against all odds is exactly how and why I became what I am.

I am sorry if that's arrogant of me to say, but this is ATS - may the best ideas and characters win.
I'm not happy about it, so don't think I'm smug, satisfied, or conceited about it. I constantly strive for better in my life (which ain't peachy) and I absolutely am going to hold everyone to higher standards as I hold myself to them.

I am trying to make an example here of what I want to see from others.

originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: muzzleflash

I couldn't read your entire opening post.Whatever these stones are saying,
bottom line, is the forced reduction of the surface population by any means.
The population kept at around 500,000,000 is a more manageable figure for
someone or something.

You couldn't read the OP but... whatever it was saying, you know all of what it's about?

Hmmm, right, well... if you're a psychic you should put in your resignation.
Then while you await your first unemployment check you'll have plenty of time to read.

originally posted by: crayzeed
I posted on this not a day ago. Let me really enlighten you. The Georgia Guide stones were set up by a group with an agenda to push. They make them mysterious by "who's putting them up", "what deep knowledge they impart," We agree with their ideas". They are a modern thing. Just because they use stone to impart their agenda it is NOT Stonehenge, it is not holy wisdom. Yet there are an awful lot of people that are "worshiping" them.
Also let me make perfectly clear, the group behind this BS is the Eugenics movement. All of the tenets are Eugenic orientated but with a very big difference. They are only showing you the "good" bits.
When they have enough groundswell support they will start to introduce the rest of their agenda like forced euthanasia for old people , disabled, people with low intelligence. They will only let certain people reproduce, people with high intelligence, only what they choose as healthy people. The list goes on. Don't believe me? Go and Google Eugenics and read for yourselves. But don't believe that they have died out, they are alive and well and pushing their agendas quite regularly. Just open your eyes and see, a little law here, a little law there, a steady drip, drip trying to get their way.
I could write way, way more but it would be to no avail as all of the majority of people seem to agree with them with "Oh the world is over populated so we have to do something about it" BS. That's the nice way of putting "we want to kill so many millions so only the best remains" because we are the best.

I am well aware of the Eugenics movement and have posted about it in depth in many threads here, and I traditionally am accustomed to painting it in a very negative light.

However I am not so sure that there is a solid connection here, and I'm curious if you can articulate the details of what makes you so sure that the GG is absolutely connected to such an agenda. What if you're just reading that into it because someone on the Internet claimed it was connected by pure conjecture without substantiating it properly?

I dunno maybe yall are right and I am just an easy dupe. Please help me out here and show me why I'm wrong about all of this. I'd really appreciate that type of assist because I don't want to go around thinking complete BS all the time for the rest of my life, telling people certain things, only to find out in 35 years that I'm a puppet.

I could be completely misleading people here, so it's important I figure this out.
Or.... maybe you've got it wrong? Hmmm...

a reply to: muzzleflash

talking of meteors, it is virtually impossible for earth to ever be hit with a meteor that could wipe out everybody, and heres why i think why, the last one killed the dinosaurs 65 million years ago was the last one, so lets say the next one is in 10,000 years which is highly unlikely i think you would agree...... well 100 years ago we were fighting in WW1 and still going for the shopping on a horse........... in 10,000 we will be able to detect a pin entering our atmosphere so a meteor lol well they will be few and far between anyway because there are two companies in a race to mine them for platinum.... right now, not to mention Elon Musk plans to have Mars colonize within 8 years...... so by my reckoning unless we are extremely unlucky, no meteor will ever wipe us outd
on the short, at the speed of our advancement technologically, in 100 years time, we will not only be able to detect them but also guide them to safely land so we can mine them. or even just catch them with a giant graphene net

a reply to: Davg80

Elon Musk may have plans to colonize Mars within 8 years but realistically it will probobly take a lot longer than that. Plans are great but the technologies to achieve such a goal are still on the drawing board or still being tested.

a reply to: muzzleflash

I believe the Georgia Guidestones were placed in the state of Georgia, U.S.A because it was meant as guideline strictly for America—it's NOT a message for the rest of the world—despite suggestions #2 thru #9 should be adhered by all nations.

#1 Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

America's present day population is approaching 320 Million people. America makes up less than 10% of the world's population, but consumes 60% of the world's global resources to sustain itself and way of life (habits). Yet, despite that, America's infrastructure—although stable—has shown many signs of crumbling and being below par for a developed country. It's becoming harder to maintain society as its population increases.

#2 Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.

This ties into guideline #1. America has the highest obesity rate out of all developed nations — yet the poorest healthcare infrastructure out of all developed nations. Perhaps diversity, as in adopting some aspects of other cultures and societies, such as a European or Scandinavian way of life and diet, along with a better healthcare system, might be required.

#3 Unite humanity with a living new language.

America is the most powerful nation on the planet. Perhaps it needs to do away with its imperialist agendas of endless wars across the globe for selfish reasons and learn to speak the language of peace. Lead by example and the world will follow.

#4 Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.

America needs to remember the vision its founding fathers had and adopt a more peaceful and civil way of dealing with its citizens. The police state; racial divide; class warfare; etc is causing unnecessary division.

#5 Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts

Respect international law, other societies, their history, and honour the true currency of life for the people of all nations. Instead of causing wars and human suffering — America can become the nation that protects the world. See guideline #3.

#6 Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

America needs to put and end to its *interventions* across the globe. See guideline #3.

#7 Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Legalize "it" — end the war on drugs and all the bureaucracy.

#8 Balance personal rights with social duties.

Legalize "it"— honour the rights of the LGBT community; people of colour who have been historically disenfranchised; veterans; and the disabled; and so on. End all the bureaucracy surrounding these issues.

#9 Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.

Religion has got to go. Know Thyself and everything else will sort itself out.

a reply to: muzzleflash

I see where you are aiming your thoughts here however I did make a thread about these guidestones in so many words. My point was that the man who created these stones was involved in secret societies/cult and was known as Rosicrucianism. These cults know more then the average man and wrote these guidestones on truths we may never know. Point being, it is not as friendly as it may seem, its a controlling monument in their silly little games. Games in which may be connected to other worldly goings on that are just too big to fathom.

Laws seem friendly, until they are used to control a population.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Your main problem is that all of this is diametrically opposed to Islam. Islam will win eventually because they like to make babies and you don't. Sorry, that is the reality.

PS. I am not Islamic

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: dreamingawake

Thank you, I wasn't aware of that book.

I will review it soon, it looks like it applies perfectly to the topics being discussed herein.

Much appreciated for your significant contribution!

No problem, hope it helps. I had discussed it further but it was in a related thread during that time frame, as to my further comments on it.

a reply to: Fools

Plus their individual IQ is not on par with that of the west, but if you consider their progress since say 760 AD, their group IQ is obviously better than the "wests".

So in summary, you can feel as smart as you want about the guidestones, but if you really follow that philosophy an don't have anything better - prepare for evolution to replace you and your kind. Because it will. And in humanities species future, Islam will EASILY replace anyone that thinks in such a manner that put up those stones as a guide to the future.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Hummm, wasn't there an investigation about the person who paid for the Georgia guidestones and what the journalist found is that this person was some sort of white supremacist who was in favor of eugenics? I would have to check this again because I don't remember exactly, it was quite a while ago.

Here is a video about the investigation.



You do know that the NAZIS were extreme environmentalists who imposed "extreme measures" including on hunting? The NAZIS also wanted to "live in perpetual balance with nature"...

The most oppressive, and ruthless regimes were implemented under pretenses "for the good of all and nature"...

no matter what wishy washy sugarcoating you put on this turd,
it involves a strict eugenics program.

even if you say, have 500,000,000 people.
who will control their reproduction?
limit pregnancies?
forced sterilization?
who gets to reproduce?

or do we just keep shooting everyone into space?
whether they like it or not?

and yes yes.
the fairly elected officials.
the ones with limited redundancy.
the ones who will make sure everything will be fair and true.
psychologically speaking, the individuals who tend to gravitate to these positions of power tend to have personality disorders there seem to be alot of rainbow unicorn assumptions about human nature here that have never panned out in recorded or archeological history.

How does this plan account for evil of man?

Comerade Trotsky was supposed to lead Mother Russia into a new golden age,
but the psycho killer (Comerade Stalin) took control and purged the govt.
it happens all the time.
all the time.
like always.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Yah that was from Future Shock which was shown to kids in high school....I remember well. The whole scenario which I actually just posted about on another thread literally is from members of the Club of Rome and such radicals as John Erlich and John Holdren who was Obamas science czar and thinks mass sterilization through drinking supplies is a good idea....Ijust cant say enough how horrible that really is and he's so full of hubris that he imagines himself one of the few who should escape the horrid plan he has for everybody. www.zombietime.com...

originally posted by: dashen
no matter what wishy washy sugarcoating you put on this turd, it involves a strict eugenics program.

So?

If it's necessity. What does it matter what you call it?

a reply to: muzzleflash

That cliche came about (to my knowledge) referencing Marxism and Communism and lamenting the reality of the brutality and grotesque insanity that became the USSR after the Revolution. And so to that I must say:

The Georgia Guidestones and indeed all of Agenda 21 is a totalitarian regime of control by the elites. But carry on, you are entitled to your opinion as well.