The most damning child trafficking email yet

originally posted by: Kapriti

originally posted by: tigertatzen

Now that sounds far more plausible than child trafficking for the beanie baby thing. But why say they don't want the "parents" to find out?

The child porn case I am trying to recall from 40 years ago included coded messages where "the parents" stood for FBI.

The world is far darker than most of us ever want to imagine.

Unfortunately, I am intimately familiar with just how dark the world can be, so I cannot argue with you there. I don't think this correspondence is about children, though. It may be code, but the pedophilia angle is simply too much of a stretch for me. I think the money angle makes far more sense here.

a reply to: tigertatzen

Aha! 480 (beanie babies) x $20 (per baby) = $9,600

Former presidents are allocated a total of $96,600 every year for staffing, a G.S.A. spokesperson told Politico, which they can apportion among employees at their discretion. Since he left the White House, Bill has had an average staff size of 10 on the G.S.A. payroll, according to the documents, which breaks down to a taxpayer-funded salary of $9,600 each, plus federal benefits.

And who are the lucky beneficiaries of $9,600 each?

These names include, but are not limited to, Justin Cooper, who helped Hillary set up her private e-mail server in 2009; Laura Graham, who was already receiving a six-figure salary from the foundation; Doug Band who served as an official at the Clinton’s charity until 2012; John Podesta, Hillary’s campaign manager and Bill’s former White House chief of staff; and Bruce Lindsey, who was C.E.O. of the foundation from 2004 through the middle of 2013. (Both Podesta and Lindsey are listed as not having worked during the periods they are listed on the G.S.A. payroll.)

Source: www.vanityfair.com...

So, this appears to be starting to make some kind of sense. $9,600 going to Podesta and/or Lindsay, and being kept off the books. Hence them not being listed as doing any work at the time ("parents mustn't find out!")

Hmmm.

originally posted by: tigertatzen
But why say they don't want the "parents" to find out?

The thing that came to my mind was an addiction problem.

Little Timmy would never sell his beanie babies unless, gasp, he has gone back to his old ways.

Who knows? The lack of context in most of these emails makes them pretty useless.

Wow...

Its obvious some of younhave never internetted...

Have any of you seen craigslist ads selling something that are written in a bizzar over the top fashion as a jome to garner attention and sell their Item?

Thats what that is.. that email is someone selling beanie babies.. it sounds like he has a whole room full and his parents are visiting so hes getting rid of them before they come... the characterization is comedic.. and the prices.. are exactly that...

This is not a smoking gun.. it is not code.. its people dicking around.. my coworkers send stuff lime this all the time.. especially the Dungeons and Dragons email posted after... its all comedic hyperbole..

Obviously people here dont get written sarcasm and humor

originally posted by: weirdguy
a reply to: Ksihkehe

I've posted this in a couple of other threads, probably should have made my own thread but I'm too lazy.
Alex Jones has a guest who goes into some detail, including an image from Podesta emails.

See this guy is feeling what we are feeling, and making the same connections.. "Pizza DEFINITELY has sexual connotation."

a reply to: tigertatzen

Pizza is pedo code for having sex with children.
It is mentioned in the video I linked.

originally posted by: DeadCat

originally posted by: tigertatzen

originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: [post=21471049]DeadCat[/

Being from a family of incest...not me but further up the line and seeing the devastation and sometimes continued perversion to each individual, this kinda freaks me out. What exactly are they asking/saying.

It does seem be coded. Who asks that much for a beanie baby?

Well, to be fair, the "code" of it being three children and the asking price is just someone's interpretation of what was being said. The words actually say there are 480 of them...that's a lot of beanies, and depending on which ones they are, they can be pretty pricey. If you go by that one interpretation, yeah, it seems sinister...but we don't know for a fact that's what was being said here.

It's bizarre, but people are bizarre...and beanie baby people are very strange about their beanies, trust me on this. I'm not saying that it's not possible, but I think taking some random reddit user's interpretation as factual information is a mistake. It could be anything...or nothing at all.

www.urbandictionary.com...

It just get's worse..

Trafficking Mexicans into the USA and charging $$$ per head?

originally posted by: DeadCat

originally posted by: weirdguy
a reply to: Ksihkehe

I've posted this in a couple of other threads, probably should have made my own thread but I'm too lazy.
Alex Jones has a guest who goes into some detail, including an image from Podesta emails.

See this guy is feeling what we are feeling, and making the same connections.. "Pizza DEFINITELY has sexual connotation."

yes, it looks to be that way to me.

originally posted by: audubon
a reply to: tigertatzen

Aha! 480 (beanie babies) x $20 (per baby) = $9,600

Former presidents are allocated a total of $96,600 every year for staffing, a G.S.A. spokesperson told Politico, which they can apportion among employees at their discretion. Since he left the White House, Bill has had an average staff size of 10 on the G.S.A. payroll, according to the documents, which breaks down to a taxpayer-funded salary of $9,600 each, plus federal benefits.

And who are the lucky beneficiaries of $9,600 each?

These names include, but are not limited to, Justin Cooper, who helped Hillary set up her private e-mail server in 2009; Laura Graham, who was already receiving a six-figure salary from the foundation; Doug Band who served as an official at the Clinton’s charity until 2012; John Podesta, Hillary’s campaign manager and Bill’s former White House chief of staff; and Bruce Lindsey, who was C.E.O. of the foundation from 2004 through the middle of 2013. (Both Podesta and Lindsey are listed as not having worked during the periods they are listed on the G.S.A. payroll.)

Source: www.vanityfair.com...

So, this appears to be starting to make some kind of sense. $9,600 going to Podesta and/or Lindsay, and being kept off the books. Hence them not being listed as doing any work at the time ("parents mustn't find out!")

Hmmm.

Now that is a most interesting reading of the email. The money angle is certainly far more palatable.

originally posted by: carewemust
Trafficking Mexicans into the USA and charging $$$ per head?

That is how it's done but it doesn't mean pedo ring. Could be someone running a house cleaning operation employing "beanie babies" (As per urbandictionary.com link posted).

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: DeadCat

www.urbandictionary.com...

It just get's worse..

Trafficking Mexicans into the USA and charging $$$ per head?

With the huge surge of unaccompanied Latin American children across the US border, it certainly is one way to read the email ... especially if the children are being warehoused somewhere that the traffickers think has drawn FBI attention.

a reply to: audubon

Brilliant sleuthing!! How did you know where to look for this info?? That's amazing. And definitely makes sense all the way around.

a reply to: Lucidparadox
Hillary can only hope....

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: carewemust
Trafficking Mexicans into the USA and charging $$$ per head?

That is how it's done but it doesn't mean pedo ring. Could be someone running a house cleaning operation employing "beanie babies" (As per urbandictionary.com link posted).

When I saw the word "Mexican" in that UrbanDictionary description, cash for immigrants was the first thing I thought of. The children that were/are arriving solo, need adults to take care of them. Maybe some of them are being sold.

Is this from the Podesta dump? Why would a campaign chairman be involved in something that's relatively menial during an election season?

originally posted by: weirdguy
a reply to: tigertatzen

Pizza is pedo code for having sex with children.
It is mentioned in the video I linked.

I can't do videos unless they're captioned, unfortunately. But I think audubon has found a far more plausible explanation for the beanie babies reference, including the numbers. I'd be willing to bet there's a totally different interpretation for the pizza reference, too. I mean...that's a lot of pizza references.

Why would people involved in a pedophile ring talk that frequently about their proclivities? That's not something anyone involved in child sexual abuse would do...especially over email. The darkest things tend to be kept in the darkest places...one of the reasons that it is so difficult to prove. They don't go around bragging about it.

No...I think the pedophilia angle here is not accurate. They may very well be pedophiles, the whole lot of them, but I don't think this is related at all.

originally posted by: weirdguy
a reply to: tigertatzen

Pizza is pedo code for having sex with children.
It is mentioned in the video I linked.

Is this shown anywhere other than an Infowars correspondent that isn't reading into it the exact same way you guys are?
Genuine question as I can't listen to it.

originally posted by: WhateverYouSay

originally posted by: weirdguy
a reply to: tigertatzen

Pizza is pedo code for having sex with children.
It is mentioned in the video I linked.

Is this shown anywhere other than an Infowars correspondent that isn't reading into it the exact same way you guys are?
Genuine question as I can't listen to it.

He is making some very serious statements in this.. He calls Hillary a witch.. like word for word.. I just started it if anyone wants to watch with..

originally posted by: carewemust
The children that were/are arriving solo, need adults to take care of them.

Not necessarily. Things are different in the "third world". Teens starting a family and pulling themselves up by the bootstraps is all too common.

Maybe some of them are being sold.

Could be.

Is this from the Podesta dump? Why would a campaign chairman be involved in something that's relatively menial during an election season?

I doubt it. At least not to the point where we can connect the dots. I don't see the need surpassing the risk.

a reply to: DeadCat

Right but this Chris Hagmann works for Infowars, no?

originally posted by: WhateverYouSay
a reply to: DeadCat

Right but this Chris Hagmann works for Infowars, no?

Not to my knowledge. It's Douglas J. Hagmann, as far as I can gather..