The most damning child trafficking email yet

originally posted by: WhateverYouSay
I was expecting the most damning evidence of child molestation to have some evidence of child molestation. You've got a self-confessed X-files nerd talking about D&D, and some extremely lame person talking about Beanie Babies. I would ask if I missed it but I'm sure I didn't and you all have spent way too long in front of your computer screens.

That being said, if you can come up with some valid law enforcement sites (not a place that is going to retroactively decide it's code for child abuse) that have references for the words used in these posts as being code for child abuse, I'll listen.

If you were talking about an actual pedo code and you were law enforcement, why would you advertise that you were on to how they talked about it?

originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: Woodcarver

I agree, I don`t see anything strange about it except that she really thinks that someone will spend $9,600 for 480 beanie babies.
she doesn`t want her parents to find out that she wasted almost $10,000 buying stuffed animals.

Look on ebay. People who have dozens also want to sell the whole collection at once. Don't forget these people are wealthy. $10,000 doesn't sound like that much to them. These people spend $100,000+ on their children's birthday parties.

a reply to: sasquatch5100

I have to say, that is also plausible as hell. I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right, the satanist/pedophile thing just seems so...out there...even for me, and I am not afraid to dive down any rabbit hole, no matter how outlandish it may seem to me. Nobody ever gains knowledge by shuttering their mind, after all. It could very well be that what seems preposterous is actually the genuine article. Thank you for pointing that out!

originally posted by: tribal
check out this freakin picture in Podestas office

"you've been an amazing INGREDIENT in my administration"

-Barack


is that not a bizarre word choice considering all the other weird food related stuff we've been seeing in the emails?

www.politico.com...

It says that's of Jennifer Palmieri's desk and the gift is hers and it's not John Podesta's, what made you say it was his?

a reply to: ketsuko

Because that would have to come up in court transcripts of prosecution of actual pedo's. There's no way around it. The same comes up for drug talk. The mob talking about "white shirts" and all sorts of stuff. It would be out there.

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: Woodcarver

I agree, I don`t see anything strange about it except that she really thinks that someone will spend $9,600 for 480 beanie babies.
she doesn`t want her parents to find out that she wasted almost $10,000 buying stuffed animals.

Look on ebay. People who have dozens also want to sell the whole collection at once. Don't forget these people are wealthy. $10,000 doesn't sound like that much to them. These people spend $100,000+ on their children's birthday parties.

You're right about this. People typically sell items like that in a collection...they know they're worth money so they aren't going to waste time trying to sell them individually...collectors will pay for the whole shebang. And some of those beanie babies are quite rare...my mother has a number of them; she buys things that she knows will be sought after later and collects them.

Remember ACORN and the first round of Project Veritas investigations? They were investigating the links between that group and underage prostitution and the smuggling of illegals.

At the time, it was a huge deal.

But it was theorized when ACORN supposedly broke up that they didn't actually die, they would just go underground and reform.

Who was ACORN?

Look through that piece ... aggressive tactics. Connections to Obama who is embroiled in this too to a certain extend.

And when ACORN was being investigated, Podesta was the one who was called in to do it!

Plenty of links that go way back and have to do with the open borders and immigration and we know it was also hip deep in smuggling and human trafficking.

a reply to: tigertatzen

No-one else seems to be reading what I'm posting, as they're rushing off down tracks hoping to find satanic ritual abuse at the end of them (and that's always worked out so well in the past...).

So, tell me what you make of this.

The Mattingly email - seeking $9,600 before the weekend was sent 30 July 2015. That date fell on a Thursday.

So whatever this email was about, it was urgent as in "next 24 hours" urgent.

As it turns out $9,600 is the maximum permissible donation to a PAC ($4,800 for individuals, $9,600 for couples). Sourc e here (it's a googlecached page, because the original is download-only).

And as it turns out Friday 31 July 2015 was the absolute and immovable deadline for submitting Q2 accounts (to the Federal Election Commission) for super PAC funds.

So, that's the shady business going on in this email.

Mattingly is trying to pull together the maximum possible donation ($9.6k) overnight in order to dishonestly claim it fell within the Q2 accounting period.

And since the $9.6k donation is per couple. my hunch is that Mattingly made a false donation under the names of his parents - hence "my parents mustn't find out!"

TL;DR - the email is evidence of dishonest fundraising practices, and not some earth-bestriding satanic paedophile cover-up.

Pass me my violin, Watson...

a reply to: audubon

Point of order, you can easily have human trafficking without anything occult going on. The sex trade is very lucrative.

a reply to: ketsuko

Whatevs.

originally posted by: audubon
a reply to: ketsuko

Whatevs.

So you're claiming the two issues must be related? That means every coyote is a satanist and every Chinese "massage" parlor is satanic in nature?

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: InS0MnI

Lots of references to pizza, yeah? That's weirder than the beanie babies, IMHO.

The triangle shape has represent female sex since ancient times.

Back in the Stone-Age archaeologists and palaeontologists have discovered many V and triangle shaped symbols and it seems they represent the triangle of a women's pubic hairs. While the diamond shape is similar to a open woman's vagina. We can find examples of this is images of the Sheela-Na-Gig.

This is seen clearly in the many images found in Palaeolithic and Neolithic sites. Where they show images of the sex-act, the genitalia of women represented as V
www.womanthouartgod.com...

Interestingly that large modern religion like scientology came from Thelema which came from Crawley which used sex magik. Look up the compounds of Scientology and get an idea of their power. many of these people may be practicing their religion.

Thelema (/θəˈliːmə/) is a religion based on a philosophical law of the same name, adopted as a central tenet by some religious organizations. The law of Thelema is "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will."

This stuff is not new it is very old and continous, most people will not want to see and I can't blame them, but if you seek truth and have delved into this you cannot unsee. Call something art and people just go "oh" art. Something gives these people power and money and fame but it also uses them up in the end it consumes them and laughs!

en.wikipedia.org...
Why the common theme?

I have been a practicing Pagan for most of my adult life, and I have zero problem believing that these people are disciples of Crowley. I personally know people who live their lives by 'The Big Blue Bible', so the ritualistic aspect is not a stretch for me personally.

There are plenty of people out there who have labeled me a satanist simply because I happen to be a Witch, even though I do not believe such an entity exists in the first place. I believe that people should practice whatever religion they choose, and it is no one else's business...and that includes everyone, no matter what office they hold. However, I also am acutely aware that certain ritualistic practices are routinely used for dark purposes, and in light of all the other bizarre aspects of this freak show, I do not discount that being the case with these individuals in the least.

However, even though I am no stranger to the strange and unusual, I am also the kind of person who looks for the most likely explanation first, and from my perspective right now, the money seems far more likely than a cabal of satanic child rapists controlling our government. Those little snippets of conversation can be interpreted in a multitude of ways because we lack the proper context in which to accurately do so. I feel that this is by design.

And yes, as a human being, I would much rather it be anything other than an evil satanic cabal...who in their right mind would want that to be true? However, I do see a number of things that indeed seem to point to that very unpleasant possibility. I personally am keeping an open mind, but with a strong leaning toward the more mundane explanation in this case, until I see more information that makes a stronger connection than just a random interpretation from someone on reddit. Either way though, I don't see this headed anywhere good.

a reply to: tigertatzen

The problem I am having is this:

One or two strange emails can be easily taken out of context as you are all suggesting, but as time goes on and we get more and more of these strange emails and the code suggested fits them almost perfectly ... it gets harder and harder to think you are taking things out of context.

Now, I am not talking about the beanie baby collection one necessarily. It doesn't reference pizza, hot dogs, dominoes, cheese and all the other words we keep seeing reference to.

But those other emails are all busy establishing a pattern that the sleuthing work on the beanie baby email does nothing to dispel. Can you really say otherwise?

And frankly, the idea of human trafficking and open borders illegal immigration go hand in hand and have since forever. You also cannot deny that or the reality that this action has been part and parcel of the political agenda connected to this particular group.

a reply to: audubon

That definitely adds up for me, too. Maybe you should make a separate thread outlining what you've found, because it's apparently getting lost in the mix here, and I am convinced that you are on the right track with this.

Do you think you could follow a trail at all on this, maybe connect it with other sketchy transactions? I'll be more than happy to help search for more evidence. I really feel like there's something more to this. That's a substantial amount of money from just one isolated source...surely that's not the only way they've padded pockets with extra funds. They probably have a number of scams going on...maybe they got cocky about it because they thought they'd never get caught, so they started making bold references to it in emails, thinking they were being clever by using code words and phrases. The tone of the emails is kind of sly and knowing like that, don't you think? Smug, really.

The idea that the sale of Beanie Babies is the most damning evidence tells me everything I need to know here.

I am starting to believe my time on ATS is past.

a reply to: tigertatzen

Meh, I reckon people aren't interested in boring, mundane, and very small conspiracies like cheating electoral funding oversighters to the tune of less than $10k.

I mean, it's definitely illegal, but it's also very boring. Paedo rings and coded pizza references are far more fun to talk about, so I'm going to let people get on with it.

I'm absolutely sure I'm right on this, though, and will (a) have a scratch around to see if I can spot a false $9.6k donation appearing in some accounts and (b) nudge a few journalists I know to see if they'll take this up. They probably won't, it's such small potatoes, and there is going to be such a s#it storm over the election results next week that no-one will care about anything else.

a reply to: ketsuko

I can definitely see where the references seem to point to the suggested code on reddit. I have no problem seeing that. I just think it seems too pat. And while the money angle fits in line with the beanie baby email, I'm thinking there might just be more to that in the other emails as well, so I think it is more than worth it to fully explore that option, too.

I can't explain it other than to say I have a strong gut feeling that people are deliberately being led by the pedophile angle here. I could very well be completely wrong. Or, we could all very well be completely right, and it's all tied into the same sordid operation. If there's one thing in my life that I have consistently regretted, it is the times that I didn't listen to my gut. I'd rather be 100% dead wrong and have to eat crow than find out later that by ignoring my gut, I fell for a sham instead. That comes from hard life experience, unfortunately...and it has taken me more times to learn my lesson than I care to admit.

I just think approaching this mystery from more than one angle is the very wisest course of action here. If more information comes to light regarding the pedophile ring/satanist angle that provides a clearer picture, as much as I don't like it, I'll have no choice but to accept it. I'd simply prefer to rule out other possibilities in the meantime.

There are a lot of us here...maybe those of us who are proficient at sleuthing should form teams; a number of people looking at the pedophile angle, while others dive into the money angle, and we can all meet in the middle and get to the bottom of this mess. Like a task force of sorts, without trying to sound melodramatic about it. What do you think about something like that?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Sooo... you don't care about any of the contents of the emails, or the context... but the thought of them being annoited bothers you?

The only reason to be put off by that would be these emails.. Rather it's about money, or drugs, or children.

originally posted by: tigertatzen
I can't explain it other than to say I have a strong gut feeling that people are deliberately being led by the pedophile angle here. I could very well be completely wrong.

I think you are completely right. The theory has come first, here, and the data is being forced to fit it. This is quite simply the exact wrong way to investigate things and the exact right way to end up completely bamboozled at best and completely deluded at worst.

Caveat: There might well be some pedo-dirt in the Clinton team, but this email sure as Hell ain't evidence of that.

a reply to: audubon

Well, you've definitely got my attention, and I'll be happy to help look for things too. I also know a journalist who might be interested as well, if I've got something compelling to show him. He's not afraid to ruffle some feathers if need be. Let me know if I can help you...although you've obviously got some mad detective skills already.