Was Scalia murdered like SETH RICH they better Exhume his body

a reply to: butcherguy

Do YourSelf and Your colon, upper/lower intestines and Your bowels a favor and get a salad but make sure You stay hydrated...

Got a WaffleHouse nearby? There You can get some good Idahoan potatoes (I guess You now KNOW I am NOT Dan Quayle..) and get them smothered w/that good cheese...

Heck, those cheap Fairtime Corn Dogs are better off for You and I'm even throwing in the microwaving...

a reply to: butcherguy

...the person typed...

The 'person' to whom you are referring is John Podesta, not just some random flunky. If this type of sinister stuff was happening, then he would certainly be in the know on it. The Podestas have a long history with the Clintons and are part of the machinery.



I should have included this in the OP, but I would also like to point out that Scalia was a member of the Knights of Malta, which is an important point that should not be overlooked.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I didn't know what wet works mean either.

I hope this thread makes it to the front page. This information needs to known. Although i really don't understand what motive they would have to "off" a supreme court justice. Hopefully, posters will clarify and educate me on the Why?

Thanks for posting J&C.

a reply to: EchoesInTime

Scalia was the most steadfast of the conservative justices and there were four or five big decisions that the court had to make that almost certainly would have swung another way had he still been alive but instead either defaulted to liberal because of the tie going back to lower court or could not be decided and wait for a new justice who might be more amenable to liberal ideology.

Where are all the Clinton worshippers on this thread.

They better hope none of this is true.

Maybe the can get past something from 20 years ago.

And, explain this ?

Man this makes my skin crawl. Scalia was by all accounts a wonderful human. The idea that such a learned, thoughtful and accomplished person who was described as "loving" by Justice RBG is just beyond sickening. If winning a ruing has become such big business that it's possible to just off a man like this we should all be worried. We are at a place so far from what the founders wanted for our democratic republic it's staggering.

Looks like it's got it's own Hashtag: #podestaemails6 scalia
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a reply to: EchoesInTime

Why?

The answer to this question is not a simple one, though a simple answer could be given.

The simplest answer could be that you'd then be able to fill that seat with someone more to your liking and amenable to your whiles.

There are other reasons, and those would involve corollary questions such as why this judge and why at the time that it occurred?

As to the former question as to why this judge, Antonin Scalia was a constitutionalist and believed that the document meant what it said and said what was meant and that it didn't need 'interpreting.'

Related info from a post in Skeptic's thread (linked in OP):

On December 26, 2001, Argentina defaulted on a total of USD 93 billion of its external debt... Wikipedia

2007 - Scalia writes opinion in ruling against EPA ATS post by queenofswords

2010 - They came to ask us, Argentines, to provide the Islamic Republic of Iran with nuclear fuel. ... According to Kirchner, when Samore was asked to provide the request in writing, all communication from the United States ceased. Kirchner stated, “This message was conveyed and I believe that was the last time, after that communication, that our Minister of Foreign Affairs saw Gary Samore.” ATS post by queenofswords

In August 2013, the Government of Argentina lost an U.S. appeals court case and was told it had to repay the full face value amount to these holdouts. Wikipedia

2013 through 2014 "Citibank isn't required to hand over documents to NML Capital Ltd. as part the hedge fund's attempt to block Argentina's next interest payment on Sept. 30, U.S. District Judge Thomas Griesa said on Wednesday." WSJ article

02/04/2014 - Fire @ Iron Mountain Facility (arson) destroys bank records/Argentina announces restrictions on bank operations. ATS post by jadedANDcynical

Throughout early 2014 - Spate of banker deaths, some just prior to the above-referenced fire. ATS post by IAMTAT

June 2014 - Supreme court rules against Argentina debt restructuring, Scalia writes supporting arguments ATS post by IAMTAT

01/14/2015 - AMIA case special prosecutor Alberto Nisman said that besides president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and Kirchnerite officials and political leaders, agents from the country’s Intelligence Secretary are involved, but he refused to disclose their identities. ATS post by jadedANDcynical

01/18/2015 - Nisman was found dead in his apartment of a gunshot wound to the head. His body was discovered just a day before he was due to testify before lawmakers on his findings on the 1994 attack. Just four days before his death, Nisman appeared on television and outlined his allegations against the president and Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman. ATS post by IAMTAT

May 2015 - Rubio introduced a Senate resolution accusing Argentina's government of attempting "to cover up Iranian involvement in the 1994 terrorist bombing" of a Jewish center in Buenos Aires, and called for a "swift and transparent" investigation into the death of an Argentine prosecutor who was critical of the country's president and had originated the allegations regarding Argentina's ties to Iran.[24] ATS post by IAMTAT

02/11/2016 - McClendon deal with Argentine gas company to develop shale fields article @ Motely Fool

02/13/2016 - Scalia found dead ATS thread by IAMTAT

02/(?)/2016 - C Allen Foster (Scalia's friend who presumably invited him along) travels to Argentina ATS post by jadedANDcynical

02/23/2016 - "Wuolou’s body was found in her private apartment in the Pisana suburb of Rome in an advanced state of decomposition after her brother alerted the police that she hadn’t been answering her phone." article @ The Daily Beast

Late Feb 2016 - Macri meets Pope Francis, described as "cordial" ATS post by IAMTAT

Feb 2016 - Mauricio Macri was elected president of Argentina in 2015. He sought to negotiate with the holdouts and end the default, in order to return to the international capital markets and benefit the national economy. Daniel Pollack announced in February 2016 that Argentina had reached an agreement with Paul Singer. The deal would still need to be ratified by the Argentine Congress.[81] The deal would only last until April 14, 2016.[82]Wikipedia

03/01/2016 - "McClendon was accused of orchestrating a scheme between two “large oil and gas companies” to not bid against each other for leases in northwest Oklahoma from December 2007 to March 2012, the Justice Department said Tuesday in a statement." article @ bloomberg.com

03/02/2016 - McClendon dies in single auto accident - ATS thread by RedLeader ALSO on the same day as McClendon's death the US District Court for the Southern District of New York on Wednesday lifted injunctions blocking Argentina from paying its restructured debt. ATS post by jadedANDcynical

03/04/2016 - Republican hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer to become Rubio's finance chairman ATS post by IAMTAT

Regards to the timing. It took place at a time where one could conceivably see the seat remaining empty until the presidential race was concluded due to the lame duck in office. And if it was done by or with the knowledge of who really picks our president, then they'd also want her to be able to pick one of their preferred persons.

Since it has been ruled "natural causes," it would also be old enough in the public memory to have been established fact and that any suggestions that it was anything other than "natural causes," could more easily be ridiculed.

Hope this helps.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: EchoesInTime

Scalia was the most steadfast of the conservative justices and there were four or five big decisions that the court had to make that almost certainly would have swung another way had he still been alive but instead either defaulted to liberal because of the tie going back to lower court or could not be decided and wait for a new justice who might be more amenable to liberal ideology.

Thank u Ketsuko

I knew his death was suspicious but I never would have thought that the Clintons were involved. Pure Evil , they are.

We also have Chelsea Clinton giving a speech: "Now that Scalia is gone...we can enact gun control"
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I guess it may end up being a case of life imitating art: The Pelican Brief

A little more about this person Podesta was talking to about "wet works:"

Steve Elmendorf, a campaign adviser and fundraiser who has collected $30,505 for Clinton, was retained by Goldman Sachs as one of the bank’s “primary lobbyists” working to weaken the Dodd-Frank bill. Records show that after the bill was signed into law, Elmendorf continued to work on behalf of a number of Wall Street clients to ensure the implementation was favorable to financial industry interests. Elmendorf was tapped by Citigroup, for example, to help the House of Representatives pass the Swap Jurisdiction Clarity Act, a bill strongly supported by Republican leadership in Congress to allow banks to avoid financial regulations by moving some operations overseas — a change that experts say could lead to another financial meltdown.

Elmendorf is one of many lobbyists who worked to influence Dodd-Frank now helping the Clinton campaign raise cash. Dewey co-founder Charles Baker worked on a lobbying team with DLA Piper’s Matthew Bernstein, another major Clinton fundraiser, for Citizen Financial Group to help the bank lobby on Dodd-Frank. Disclosures show the efforts included work on the Volcker Rule, derivatives regulations, and rules concerning overdraft fees, many of the top concerns for the banking industry. Arshi Siddiqui, a lobbyist with Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld who is currently helping to raise money for the Clinton campaign, worked to influence Dodd-Frank implementation on behalf of the Mortgage Bankers Association, according to disclosures. Tony Podesta, the brother of the Clinton campaign’s chairman and a fundraiser for the campaign, worked for Bank of America to influence Dodd-Frank, according to filings.

Top Hillary Clinton Advisers and Fundraisers Lobbied Against Obamacare and Dodd-Frank

Goldman Sachs - does this need further explanation?

Citigroup - "investigated" by James Comey in 2003

DLA Piper - the place Comey the Weasel's brother works.

Tony Podesta - brother of John Podesta

Methinks this guy might be someone at whom it might behoove us to look a bit closer.

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
Scalia was also not leaning left or right, he was the only moderate and therefore it would be a great advantage for obama/Hillary to appoint a left leaning judge, thereby stacking the deck on constitutional and other decisions. That would apply to republicans as well in appointing a right leaning judge.

Scalia a moderate? The man who repeatedly urged fellow SC Judges to strike down Roe V Wade? The man who decided the 2000 election for Bush? Who fought over and over against the extension of equality legislation to include homosexuals? Who tried to enforce the death penalty for someone who had committed their crime at the age of 15? Who tried to rule that a defendant who hadn't been read his rights had still made a valid confession, thus overturning the Miranda principle?

These aren't very moderate positions, and Scalia's conservatism was well-known enough for him to have been approached as possible running mate for Bob Dole's presidential ticket in 1996!

As for his death - we're talking about a 1.7m tall obese chain-smoker with a history of heart problems and high blood-pressure, who had just been found too unhealthy to be safe for heart surgery. And he was 79 years old, so it would be more reasonable to wonder how he had lived so long, rather than why he died.

All that's just comment, obviously.

But what is a fact is that Scalia was not found with a pillow over his face. The witness later clarified that by 'over' he meant 'above', that is that the pillow was between Scalia's head and the bed's headboard. And there were no signs of a struggle, which even an obese 79-year-old would have left if he found himself being smothered. Also, this would be the first assassination by pillow in US history, if it were true (and it is not).

As it happens, Scalia spent his last waking hours going shooting and enjoying a huge dinner with a bunch of friends (the exertion and the over-eating may have been factors in his natural death). He probably went to sleep for the last time with a faint smile of satisfaction on his lips. And who am I to begrudge any man a happy exit from this world?

The 'wet works' thing I can't explain, except (as remarked) as a euphemism for 'watersports'. But it was a week before Scalia's death, there's no way anyone from DNC would have got within a mile of the ranch where Scalia died anyway (let alone inside the bedroom), and who on earth refers to a secret assassination plan in an office email ffs?

originally posted by: IAMTAT
We also have Chelsea Clinton giving a speech: "Now that Scalia is gone...we can enact gun control"
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That's an amazing statement for Chelsea! This really is the "Clinton Crime FAMILY", isn't it. Even if Trump IS a "groper", that is nothing, absolutely NOTHING, compared to what the crooked Clinton Family has done, is doing, and will continue to do.

a reply to: audubon

The 'wet works' thing I can't explain, except (as remarked) as a euphemism for 'watersports'. But it was a week before Scalia's death, there's no way anyone from DNC would have got within a mile of the ranch where Scalia died anyway (let alone inside the bedroom), and who on earth refers to a secret assassination plan in an office email ffs?

I doubt that the people in the email chain were doing the hit.

Generally, political geeks hire that kind of work out.

a reply to: audubon

After working for the military, paramilitary organizations and CI for a number of years, I know what wetwork is ;-) The Scalia "event" is a little suspicious, with changing stories over time as to the circumstances involving his death. Phoning in a death with no autopsy is also very suspect, considering the importance of his position. Whether or not more information comes out simply depends on any actors, if such actors exist. The timing of Scalia's death may be coincidental or may have been planned, in any event it plays to the benefit of Clinton

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

After working for the military, paramilitary organizations and CI for a number of years, I know what wetwork is

Do you think that it might distract from the fact that 'wet works' is also gay slang for, erm, urine-related antics? And could that fact be related to the fact that the emailer, Steve Elmendorf, is openly gay?

originally posted by: audubon
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

After working for the military, paramilitary organizations and CI for a number of years, I know what wetwork is

Do you think that it might distract from the fact that 'wet works' is also gay slang for, erm, urine-related antics? And could that fact be related to the fact that the emailer, Steve Elmendorf, is openly gay?

Yeah, I understand how that could be confused with scat type vernacular, but generally what you're looking for is golden showers. It seems strange as you stated that wet work was even mentioned, I would think under either definition. However, Scalia died and I don't recall that Elmendorf being pissed on was in the news lol.

Cheers - Dave

Yeah, but apart from the fact that a gay man made an emailed reference to a private sexual fetish three days before an overweight old man with a bad heart died in his sleep hundreds of miles away, there's not much meat on this theory.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

"bedwetters," is the libs term for republicans. What "ledge" would republicans have been on at the time?

Perhaps [tinhat] this 'ledge' he was referring to was republicans who were in on the 'decision' to off Scalia and that's what they had to be talked down off of?[/tinhat]

And, you're correct, that thing on Soros that TAT posted should be it's own thread.

Could it somehow concern this?
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Four days before he died, Supreme Court Justice Scalia voted to stall Obama’s plan to force drastic climate-change rules on the American economy. The vote was 5-4.

With Scalia now gone, the vote would be 4-4.

With a new Obama Supreme Court appointee, if Obama could ram his choice through, the vote would be 5-4 in the President’s favor. Ditto, if the next President shares Obama’s position. And the climate-change agenda would roll ahead.

We’re not talking about small climate-change rules. We’re talking about the Big Ones.

And note: such rules could very well dovetail with the Brave New World spelled out in the upcoming TPP (the Trans-Pacific Partnership).

I see he was also trying to keep the constitution from being curbed by the overstepping of bounds of the court and President.

The opinion in these cases is the furthest extension in fact—and the furthest extension one can even imagine—of the Court’s claimed power to create “liberties” that the Consti­tution and its Amendments neglect to mention. This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected commit­tee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extrav­agant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most im­portant liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves.”

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He was the kind to get in the way of people's wishes

Some justices throughout history have been compromisers and conciliators. Not Justice Scalia. He was a lion of textual orthodoxy. He was a rock of original meaning. Law students jokingly called him the pope of originalism, a phrase he loved.

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