Don't listen to the liberal MSM: Trump crushed Hillary at the debates.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: intrepid
Back in the real world.... Trump was trounced. Poll your polls if they help you sleep at night. The fact remains that he failed miserably.

^One mans opinion here. For everyone who says he failed miserably, I bet you can find others (in the real world as you say there) who say otherwise.

You are correct, but how many of those opinions are based on the actual performance of the people on stage, or is skewed by their political partisanship?

Based on their performance, Trump lost badly.

And how many people hate Hillary enough to not care how Trump did? Something else to consider ~

Ding, ding, ding. We have a wiener. That's exactly it. The Hillary hatred is so strong in many that reality no longer matters. Up is down. Cats are dogs.... as long as Hillary loses.

Who wouldn't hate Hillary ?

You saying a reason not to completely dislike and never trust her actually exists ?

And you want her in the Whitehouse WHY exactly ??

originally posted by: angeldoll
I was SHOCKED (I really was) that he paid ZERO federal income taxes, then bragged about it. I wish they would send his stupid ass to prison for it.

He wants to do all these many things that will require tax dollars, and none of them his? Because of his sicko sense of self-entitlement? Yet somebody who earns minimum wages has to pay the chunk from their little pay-checks?
Preposterous.

I wonder if he's taught Don Jr, Eric, and Ivanka how to avoid taxes. A fabulous family of thieves?

You were shocked that he does what every other corporation in America has done for as long as they could ??

I think it is time that the shock should roll over and show the truth of ALL of America.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Bloodydagger
And I guarantee you that if the roles were reversed and this was Hillary in those polls, that we'd see a similar thread with the Hillary supporters parading the polls around.

That's called "transference".

It is what Hillster's do best !!

People are wondering who won the debate? I think public opinion would say more than the media narrative. If these polls are any barometer of public opinion, the so be it. Even if it shows that Trump supporters are more enthusiastic, it says something. Trump has been surging in major states lately. Seems to me that's what an honest media would pay attention to, but instead we are hearing about birtherism.

originally posted by: Morosus
Yeah he pretty much sewed it up when he attacked Rosie again.

You people crack me up.

I liked the 400 pound hacker sitting in his bed the most.

Hillary has no place to go but down. She's been going down in the polls for a year straight.

Ammo exhausted after first debate. Actually, I'm convinced now more than ever that Trump is actually TPTB' s pick. This was the 1st national debate. It rattled nerves but now that's over. Now people are actually seeing him on the big stage.


I know many Bernie supporters who are now voting Trump.

To any impartial observer, it was clear that Donald Trump lost the debate. Trump spent most of it defending himself, speaking of personal stories and talking in circles. He failed to press Hillary on subjects such as her emails (he asked one question about that and let Clinton side-step it), the Clinton Foundation, Libya, etc. Granted, the moderator was responsible for many of the biased questions asked, but Trump didn't exercise the ability needed to turn things around and put sufficient pressure on Hillary.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Asking anyone to answer "by what standards Hilary won the debate", I bet you will get no answer. She resorted to more fallacy and sophistry in a typically political fashion. Anyone who thinks Hilary won is also admitting their susceptibility to sophistry, the same kind of rhetoric that has been used to dupe the masses since ancient times.

Would that not mean that Hillary won the debate then? Regardless of the techniques used by Clinton during the debate, if the majority says she won it, then she clearly did in the eyes of the people.

Hillary won the debate, however, it was nothing like the win that the MSM and Hilary shills have been declaring. Both were pretty bad actually, for different reasons. Clinton said almost nothing of any interest whilst lying constantly, whilst Trump spent the last hour talking in circles and appearing to be unable to articulate.

Clinton won because she was more composed and kept Trump on the defensive, aided by Holt.
There was no 'crushing' and 'beating' going on. It was a poor debate.

I guess we will see what happens in the polls over the coming days. I expect a bump for Clinton leading into the next debate. Trump will have to improve a lot.

Ha, a bunch of alt-right psychos gaming a Drudge report poll is not "winning".

a reply to: kazanoom

With insults, comes zero credibility.

You took the time to post, and that's what you come up with....

I just read that the Trump campaign has broken the single day fund raising record on the day following the debate - nearly $20m in one day!
I guess despite the debate, the enthusiasm is still there.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Hillary did not really confirm jack #. All she kept on saying is " i see" " i want to see" to most of her arguments. How about being more definiive and saying i will do this and i will do that. Rather tahn i want to see rich people not beenfit from lower taxes" its all bull and se gave no real answers, just what she would like to see raather than what she will do.

originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
a reply to: Allaroundyou

Hillary did not really confirm jack #. All she kept on saying is " i see" " i want to see" to most of her arguments. How about being more definiive and saying i will do this and i will do that. Rather tahn i want to see rich people not beenfit from lower taxes" its all bull and se gave no real answers, just what she would like to see raather than what she will do.

She could release the scripts of her Wall Street speeches as a starting point. Surely she has been giving them the same message that the economy has to grow not just on paper in the financial district. I bet she gave them a really hard time.

a reply to: Bloodydagger

O boy. Like your title says do not trust ''liberal" MSM, you should also never trust internet polls. There is a group of people on two different websites, 4chan and 8chan who have been going around and brigading just about every online poll to try and slant it in favor of Trump. They have been doing it for months now and they even made scrpits they sell on the dark web that helps people achieve that goal.

fortune.com...

www.reddit.com...

www.dailydot.com...




I mean really, did you even look at those polls you posted? Do you really think 75%-80% of people thought Trump won? Do those numbers not look Russian rigged election level of suspicious to you?

a reply to: Bloodydagger

I am no fan of Hillary but Trump looked like blustering buffoon he is on Mon night. As much as I can't stand Hillary, she trampled him.

a reply to: Bloodydagger

So NATURALLY anything coming from CNN anchors and news will be heavily slanted toward the Left and Hillary and they'll REACH when it comes to anything negative regarding Mr Trump.

And when they announce her the winner everyone will be outraged, cry fraud and demand a recount, but the din will be drowned out by bombs going thud, thud, thud in the desert.

a reply to: richapau

That's the truth. Anyone who thinks the man did well in that debate is as deluded as he is. FFS...in the space of 90 minutes, Trump was unable to string a single meaningful sentence together. He is a rambling fool who is clearly suffering from an array of mental illnesses and is also, quite likely a drug abuser.

Not that Hillary is any better....oh America, you are SOOOO fecked LOL!!!!

a reply to: Bloodydagger

I watched the debate. Trump lost, looked bad, sounded anything but Presidential. Good thing he's never going to be President.

I know the U.S. has a dumbed down population, but are they that stupid? Nobody in the right mind wants another liberal after Nobama goes.