You have been lied to : Christians , Muslims , Jews - all worship the same God

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: Invicid

I never claimed once, in any of my posts on this thread that they were non-fiction. And your arguement about their history doesn't dispute their subject matter. You have no idea what I believe.

The subjects of the books are based around the same God, your just looking for an arguement and straw manning my original post

Even worse. You claimed them to be the word of "god" - evading all evidence of the men who wrote this, and subsequently laughed at their followers. Not only that - but u linked all 3 religions as if they were all, written by men with the same intentions. Your opinions, your evasion of the facts, is dangerous - not just to you, but our society as a whole. Look around you at the faiths you speak of, where is god in their mission?

originally posted by: daaskapital

Christianity and Islam are different, but they share many prophets, stories and beliefs. To this extent, Islam worships the God of Abraham, just as Christians and Jews do - despite any differences such as the final text in Revelations, as you like to point to. Put simply, you all worship the same God, but you all have different interpretations of it.

Theft is not the same thing as "sharing", although I agree that the thief in question might attempt to make that argument if cold busted with the goods under his arm heading towards his own house. Muslims and Socialists are the only people I know who try to make that argument, however.

a reply to: Invicid

Please link where I said they were the word of God?

You are obviously troubled by religion and assume all people who want to speak about it have the same intentions.

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: Invicid

Please link where I said they were the word of God?

You are obviously troubled by religion and assume all people who want to speak about it have the same intentions.

When I waste my time to go through your inane posts and find it. Will you sit down and shut the # up. Just want confirmation

a reply to: Invicid

You are wasting your own time, what you should do is make a post about the subject you want to talk about - it appears that this thread has ran its course. Now it is just you and me arguing about what I did and didn't say.
Not about the topic of discussion, I hope you don't do this a lot in your personal life.

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: blueman12

What percentage of "followers" would you say really adhere to the faiths, I would venture to say the moment you build a giant church that is designed to make money there is little way to find God inside of it.

And a huge number of churches are erected with the sole idea of making money and then delivering God's message, so if that is where you seek God, there are limited chances for you getting the real message.

The thing about companies is that it is important to keep people from shopping at other companies

Here's one to start

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: JChrisD

Why can anyone who disagrees with you "not fathom" but in the same post you attempt to explain God's reasoning

Here's another

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: Invicid

This doesn't matter, the book is written with the Jewish God as the father of Jesus. It doesn't matter who you think the author used as a character model. It doesn't matter if you believe what it says.

It is written to be read as being the same God as the Jews.

Oh and another. You ready to sit the # down now? I don't even think u know what u have been saying throughout this thread. Need more? Or you ready to accept your circles - that involved you stating as fact, that "God" wrote man made books. Oh and so you understand, I am devoutly spiritual. So please tell me I'm an atheist as a defense mechanism.

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: Invicid

Please link where I said they were the word of God?

You are obviously troubled by religion and assume all people who want to speak about it have the same intentions.

Here's your exact quote in case you try and weasel out of this.

a reply to: Invicid

I'm pretty sure you can't read.... None of those say "word of God"

a reply to: Invicid
How about you just clearly state your point?

If it is that you believe the bible is based of characters fabricated by the Roman Empire, I'm not trying to dispute you, because it is irrelevant to the discussion.

The discussion isn't about the books (Jewish Christian Muslim) authenticity, it is about the subject matter.

Which part is confusing to you, authenticity or subject matter? I can explain them both

in·au·then·tic
ˌinôˈTHen(t)ik/
adjective
not in fact what it is said to be.
"the Holy Shroud of Turin is thought to have been proved inauthentic by radiocarbon dating"

sub·ject
noun
ˈsəbjəkt/
1.
a person or thing that is being discussed, described, or dealt with.
"I've said all there is to be said on the subject"
synonyms: theme, subject matter, topic, issue, question, concern, point

You have indeed been lied to. Some, unlike OP, have moral objection to spreading the lies.

Ahriman and Ahura Mazda are opposites. We can define offense, and defense if you like. But in this gaye reality (Gaia, no homophobia), you have everything backwards. You live in an "Ask Me Anything" society. Complete defense and zero origination.

Its not difficult to assign Allah to the reactive Angra Mainyu. Muslims worship a black hole, like David Bowie, Churchians and Satanists. Christians worship a non material omnipresence who openly declares this realm is not his kingdom..

Your interpretation of religion is exactly as religion intended. The world leaders are pro-religion and anti-theism, so you know there's a difference.

Naw...to get it, one has to read the scripture...till then you're a victim of the father of lies

..a reply to: JuanDope

a reply to: JuanDope

“The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you” Luke 17:20

Nonmaterial? You must of missed the entire New Testament Jesus was certainly material, and will return in material form.

Christians worship God but believe Christ is the way to heaven

Jews worship God and do not believe Jesus was the messiah but a prophet

Muslims worship God and do not believe Jesus was the messiah but a prophet

Can you tell me how the men/women of the Old Testament got to heaven, which the bible clearly describes happening. Before Jesus came to earth, if he was the only way to heaven? (Just a question)

I would venture more towards the side of world leaders are pro-religion, anti-agreement on Gods nature.

As long as people are divided they are easier to control
As long as people are afraid they are willing to give up "rights"

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

But both groups say they follow the same God (Jews and Muslims), you are one saying they don't.....

No, that's not what I stated at all.

Try again.

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