You have been lied to : Christians , Muslims , Jews - all worship the same God

a reply to: AshFan

It isn't a discussion about who is better it is a discussion about history.

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: AshFan

It isn't a discussion about who is better it is a discussion about history.

Ok agreed. I still wanna see that fight though.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

You would be surprised, just look at the comments from the believers in this thread

a reply to: boncho

"Woman is a temple built over a sewer. –Tertullian, “the father of Latin Christianity”

I don't know what the Italians have to do with it, but this reminds me of the old joke,

"How do we know Italians invented women?
Because no one else would be dumb enough to build a candy store next to a sewage factory."

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

And why did they make the sewer so nice and tight and warm..

originally posted by: Teikiatsu
And while the Quran is written to say that Allah is the same god as Jews and Christians, I don't see a whole lot of similarity between my God who broke the Old Covenant and brought forth the New, who spoke of turning the other cheek and doing unto others as they do unto you, and the Muslim Allah who seems to be more of a retro fire'n'brimstone old-testament style deity.

It is rare to see a Christian admit that Jesus and Jehovah are not the same God.

originally posted by: AshFan
a reply to: spiritualarchitect

And why did they make the sewer so nice and tight and warm..

Now THAT"S FUNNY. I'm still laughing at that one!

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: AshFan
a reply to: spiritualarchitect

And why did they make the sewer so nice and tight and warm..

Now THAT"S FUNNY. I'm still laughing at that one!

that is there whole universe. When you do # right it fits real tight, you need the whole earths resources to throw us away we use a toilet to live interplanetarily.

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
a reply to: boncho

"Woman is a temple built over a sewer. –Tertullian, “the father of Latin Christianity”

I don't know what the Italians have to do with it, but this reminds me of the old joke,

"How do we know Italians invented women?
Because no one else would be dumb enough to build a candy store next to a sewage factory."






Spiritual architect that threatens a god killing time hopping space dinosaurs bloodline. If your an architect I'd know you, I'll erase all history and well let y'all write the legends.

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: AshFan

It isn't a discussion about who is better it is a discussion about history. It'd be cool huh, maybe last minute for fun. The demi-dogg will take the place of any diety and write jesus name on Elvis.

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

Totally dude!! You guys offer so much - thank you for your help in keeping the world blind, we need more of you.

Wish we had more freethinkers that could just look at everything and think "this is bull****", you are totally out of the matrix.

Why are you insulting me? I actually agree with the title of your thread. I am just as frustrated with all the deception as you are. I was a Christian for 20 plus years and walked away from it, due all it's contradictions and bs.
I read further up where you said Jesus said His Father was the same god as the OT god. I don't believe that. I think what Jesus did was come to show us WHAT the true God was like, because everyone (esp. the Jews) were following a false god (ie, YHWH). THAT'S why they murdered Jesus. He was exposing that false god AND showing the true God's character.
That's why the OT god and the Father of Jesus in the NT are so different in character. Christians will argue with you till they are blue in the face about it, though. Believers don't DARE question the "inerrancy" of the Bible. That's a big NO-NO in Christendom.
Anyway, you're on a good roll here. You must have misunderstood my post to someone else. Carry on.

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: Invicid

Abraham is in the Old Testament......

You do realize the same God in the Old testament is the God in the New Testament?

Why else would they put the two books together?

You heard the story of Moses? The Jews came out of Egypt, the idea that they shared culture and words isn't ground breaking, what is your point?

Abraham and Moses are the same man. The Old Testament was changed after the destruction of the second temple - see the Flavian Piso Conspiracy - you will find that there is actual merit to this argument, as opposed to yours.

Having said that, no the Old vs. New testament is not the same god. Going back to the Flavian Piso Conspiracy, Flavius Josephus invented all the fiction of the New Testament using Julius Caesar as his Jesus model. Please open a #ing book not called the bible to understand the actual historical context here. You will find all the hypocrisies of both books
resolved.

a reply to: fatkid

No Muslims worship the god of the Mohamed

It's like comparing it to a wall with a window high above...some call that window God, Allah, whatever they were told to call it. No one is able to look into the window...if they could they could see that it is much more than they thought, and all the same.

a reply to: fatkid


The muslims under islam do NOT worship the same God as the Christians and Jews!

The muslim god allah is nothing like the Jewish God Jehovah.

The muslim god allah is a new god created by muhammad.

The coming antichrist will most likely honor this false god allah.

This false god allah has NEVER been identified as Yahweh/Jehovah or Yeshua/Jesus.


One major "conspiracy" is the identity of God and Jesus Christ!

***SNIP***

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I never said the religions were the same.

I said the God was the same.

You only see what you want to see and can't even comment on the topic of the post.

There are plenty of Christian "occultist"

You can't discredit anything I've said other than saying,
obviously it is the origin of "those people" (sounds pretty racist), that is point of this entire post...... His father was Abraham, I'm starting to doubt you read the OP.

No, not the same God, at all. Not even similar. I did comment on the topic, and pointed out that your premise isn't valid. Did you expect only agreement? Abraham isn't God. That is is ancestor to two groups does not mean that both groups follow the same God. Faulty logic there.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Faulty logic there.

The logic is perfect!

Your indoctrination into a serious belief pattern will not allow you to see the logic and wisdom espoused by the OP.

That is why religions suck.

a reply to: SaintlyMic

The muslim god allah is a new god created by muhammad.

Muhammad created Allah!

Boy, I would love to read your holy book!

Just how did Muhammad do that?

By the way, using a lower case m for Muhammad and a lower case a for Allah shows you to be a disrespectful POS to the religion you claim to follow. Perhaps you need to pray.

P

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Every religious person is an occultist by the very definition of the word.

By your definition, perhaps. Not by standard definitions.

Nope...."WHATEVER" the heck this deity is (YHWH, ALLAH, BAAL, MOLOCH, etc.) ...they are all very similar in their personalities. Blood thirsty, killing indiscriminately, and judgmental as all get out. Doesn't matter if the names are different, the fruit they produce is the same.