Tom De Longe with answers about UFOs, Life, the Universe and Everything...

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

if the info TDL has is as powerful as he says, it shouldn't matter who has control of the whitehouse, of course if Trump knows of this information, there is no doubt that with his Ego, he will disclose it, because the guy that makes that announcement will be the new Jesus, or Allah, or whatever.

a reply to: Davg80

I stick with my statement.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

your statement is only your biased opinion, the truth is, with Trump there is more chance of change, whether the change is good or bad remains to be seen. If he uses his position to increase his wealth, he will be punished. because he will now become the most scrutinised man on the planet.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: mirageman

What with Podesta now being out of the picture due to Trump's win, I would imagine that this will pull the plug on the TD project for the foreseeable future... Trump doesn't care about the "youth opinion on Government", and smirks and derides "UFOs" just like the smirks and derides most things.

Kev

I think you are correct about this. Bye bye disclosure, along with my health insurance.

I'm not having a good day. It sucks fearing for your kid's life on a daily basis and also fearing whether or not you can pay to keep him alive. Sorry. Off topic. It's the terror setting in.

Back to TD's project, he has said it could be pulled at any time if permissions were not given.

The only reason it MIGHT get a green light, though, is that it is "pro American Military" and Trump might like the "we're the good guys after all" vibe of it, but not the part about secret wars via Sekret Tech mention in TDL's first novel.

It's what it is.

a reply to: Davg80

No. Podesta was at the center of this.
Not biased. Not rocket science either.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Podesta was not at the center of this, it was hoped he would make it easier to plow the field and he did to some extent. That Podesta's star has dimmed shouldn't impact the "project" much at all as far as I can tell.

From my seat, it looked as if Tom brought people to Podesta's attention, not the other way around. Sure, a white house "insider" might have helped with the publicity, but if Podesta had any sort of power in this subject, he'd have made this happen years ago, certainly before Tom Delonge entered the fray. I will keep an open mind, although after some 40+ years of following this drama, ive seen enough promise of disclosure fails, that i'm not really that optimistic.

a reply to: Springer

Well Im all for information getting out; then we can discuss it.

Kev

a reply to: AboveBoard

I hope the new administration will leave something in place for you and not just gut it 100%.

As for "disclosure", you could just read JV and you'd get 3/4 of it. Its obvious TD values (a variant of) his opinion highly.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Congratulations to you and your fellow Americans on electing your new President. And I truly mean that from the heart of my bottom Kev.

In an alternative universe I believe he said something to the effect of :

..These aliens are criminals. They invade our airspace! They're thieves! They steal and mutilate our cattle. They have no respect for property and draw silly pictures in our crops. They abduct us in the night and they make our butts hurt from the primitive probing they carry out because of their socialist health care......

I am gonna build a wall around the Whitehouse because those little grey guys are not landing on my lawn. We will make America sedate again..........

I don't believe he likes aliens, especially illegal ones.


Seriously though - I am not sure if it will change things. From what I've seen, Tom seemed the one keen to get John Podesta on board. I have seen little from Podesta where he appears to have given any heavy support to this project. For all we keep hearing from Tom in interviews I've yet to see anything in detail that we've been fighting a secret war against an alien intelligence. I believe Tom wants a politician on his side. Perhaps to give him credibility and a link into the Whitehouse. I don't know. Podesta seemed to be that man.

a reply to: mirageman


I liked "heart of my bottom" the most but also everything else you said. (a heart is a stylised female bottom I learned that from tv)

Where are the Podesta emails to TDL? Can I read them? Do they exist?
Trump is perfect for disclosure, a reckless opportunist. Exactly the type to take this kind of risk. New markets, new consumers, the US first to host tourists, new technology, new players you could ally with, ...
And the population of his nation he will be sworn to protect, is the most open to UFO talks, alternative history, individuality and tolerance, adaption, preparedness even if there were a few moments of panic, ...

Yeah Trump!

Ahem TDL should contact him. Just to get back on topic, which at this point doesn't really matter, because all TDL "knows" is theories, his personal current stacks. But "the government" has the good stuff, everything NASA ever hid, plus the scavenged physical evidence, recordings, protocols... That's what we need, to make a good theory about what it is.

looking through TDLs twitter and i wonder...... I have heard how his books are written for a certain age group, people have said badly in other words.... are kids books really just badly written nowadays, i grew up reading high school horror books about 25-30 years ago and never thought they were badly written, but then again i was a kid then. but it made me think about treasure island by RL Stevenston, and that book is better written than many adults books of today.
I feel conditioning is TDLs true goal and i feel the conditioning will be towards an untruth with the intention of gaining
more control of the people.
Or it could really be Truth or believed Truth that he reveals, consciousness shifting revelations that change everything in a second, of course such a revelation would have mass psychological effect to those who are conditioned in certain ways. Which would explain the softly softly approach.
i have many theories on this TDL affair tbh, and i have no clue what the outcome will be, cause i ain't no prophet.
but i feel as if there are major changes afoot..... but that's just a feeling!

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Isn't that the problem that only the 'all in' scenario will do?

a reply to: zeroPointOneQ

The problem with waving around JV-type information as "Disclosure" is that nobody will fully understand the Phenomenon until things like quantum mechanics and general relativity are reconciled with each other and with "consciousness" to name just a few. And frankly, those things and the standard model of physics and common models of astrophysics may have to be partially junked in the process.

People are waiting for "Roswell to be true" and nonsense like that; only none of that stuff is true.
People are waiting for "spiritual stuff" to be true in some form too; only that's not really true either.

So the "truth" is too subtle to easily understand or describe. So the tendency, if you want to do "disclosure" is to grossly misrepresent it. That's the sticky wicket.

Nearly everyone picks their favorite delusion and pushes it.

Or you do what JV did.. you write many books about it, and then watch as everyone misquotes and misrepresents it and doesn't continue the research necessary to make progress.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

and doesn't continue the research necessary to make progress.

Isn't there a possibility that someone, under cover of "black projects" with big budgets, have silently done just this and have indeed developed this work further?

BT

a reply to: beetee
The thing I took from Tom's book, was that, very early on, we shipped the responsibility for the study of exotic military tech (include alien tech here) to private companies, they have stumbled upon some very important concepts along the way, but are now playing a game with governments across the world-a sort of blackmail to sell this tech to the highest bidder, and the threat to disclose this tech if the money doesn't keep flowing. I think our military leaders are trying to figure a way around this , so that this "tech" doesn't fall into the wrong hands. The way I've studied the issue for 40 some years, I don't think our military was equipped, or mentally willing to study the issue themselves during and just after WWII.
I'm not convinced this really means otherworldly technology, but that seems to be the slant.

a reply to: HiddenWaters

Yes. I agree. Probably vamped up to create a thrilling narrative, but I think it is very plausible that by going where no sane scientist would ever go, they might have discovered something about the nature of the cosmos that mainstream science is just too mired in the current paradigm to even consider.

Like a unifying theory of everything, or at last pieces of it. I also find it highly probable that some of this information could be very worrying in the wrong hands. So perhaps thats why they are so reluctant to just blow the lid of everything.

I mean if it was, say, possible to tap into some form of underlying energy directly and this was public knowledge, some yahoo would soon be building a "free energy device" in his garage.

"Great! Free energy! Oh it won't stop... er.. someone call the fire department, I might have just ..er.. created a small black hole..."

There might be all sorts of reasons to think well before this kind of tech is just released into the open. Look how we harnessed the power of the atom.

And if conciousness plays into it as well (think P.E.A.R) who knows what is possible...?

I think if disclosure of these findings are indeed on the books, I think it is because the rest of the world is soon to catch up anyway. Or that's what they are thinking, perhaps...

Just some thoughts.

BT

ETA: I seem to remember someone somewhere, who was somewhat on the inside, declared that there was all these wonderful technological breakthroughs mired in 'black projects' and that it would take "an act of God" for them ever to be released. Can't remember who...

a reply to: beetee

Maybe Brittney Spears will be the next president. Nothing would surprise me anymore.

That said, even if you stick probes in humans, in their brains and other organs, you wouldn't catch much of the phenomenon in action.

But who knows how much deep dark research has been done?

I'd like to see collaborative research happen, rather than brute force redearch.

But we are a brute force species it would seem.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

This is absolutely correct, despite my lack of total confidence in Vallee's ideas, I think he's on the right track, the problem is bringing others on board, willing to go the extra mile, despite the perceived ridicule.
I think its vitally important to us as a species, maybe Tom will bring that much to the table.
PS, I think we could do better than Brittany😏

a reply to: HiddenWaters

I WAS fascinated by the snippet from Tom on being tested for which of the types of UFOs he had been exposed to. That actually makes sense to me.

As for Vallee, he's really big on information theory and the cultural anthropology (and modern mythology) of this,

But im the one always bringing up the "substrate" part of this. (Plasma/exotic matter/quantum@classical border/human physiology interface).

We need to investigate both pieces equally.

And we need subject matter experts not old burnouts like me doing it.


Kev