Why Are White Americans So Racist?

a reply to: SuspiciousTom

Black men could own property before white women (and all women). They got the right to vote before white women (and all women). Women have a long history of oppression...rape...murder..enslavement. We have done well to not let it hold us back.

But sure, keep blaming white women for 'raping' the black man's wives and lumping us in with all the rest of what you wrote under the title of "Why are white Americans so racist?'

Let me guess...you are a man, OP?

SO.....I noticed it's only the 'black man' that you seemed concerned about. I think you should focus on working on your own discrimination issues. It takes a very special snowflake to pretty much exclude black women from your entire post:

I've noticed the trend of threads here, never commending a black man, but always condemning.

The only time the front page of ATS has something about a black man or a man of color is in STRONG relation to something negative.

The black man has been brought to this land from Africa; they were enslaved and highly mistreated, then once people grew a bit more civilized, they were given a few rights but still mistreated.

But what's the real reason a black man is how he is?

You remove a black man from Africa, split him from his family, force him to work, abuse him, kill them because you felt like it, raped their wives, caged them.

originally posted by: schuyler
Another white SJW admonishing others of his own race. Believe me, I've heard this crap for years. If you want to see blatant racism, just dare to walk in a Black neighborhood and see what happens. Meanwhile you've got your head in the sand.

well said! I no longer believe white people are the racists. Looks like the tides have changed on that. I've been saying this, since Obama took office. Not to bring politics into this, but the stuff happening the past 8 yrs, did not happen as much before he got into that WH! JMO.........FYI OP, my black friends agree.

a reply to: BlubberyConspiracy

Just a correction. Soros funds far left groups like BLM, not far right groups.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Star for you. There are many women CEO's now because they worked hard to make their own opportunities. No one gave them that, despite the history women have had to endure.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: SuspiciousTom

Black men could own property before white women (and all women). They got the right to vote before white women (and all women). Women have a long history of oppression...rape...murder..enslavement. We have done well to not let it hold us back.

But sure, keep blaming white women for 'raping' the black man's wives and lumping us in with all the rest of what you wrote under the title of "Why are white Americans so racist?'

Let me guess...you are a man, OP?

SO.....I noticed it's only the 'black man' that you seemed concerned about. I think you should focus on working on your own discrimination issues. It takes a very special snowflake to pretty much exclude black women from your entire post:

I've noticed the trend of threads here, never commending a black man, but always condemning.

The only time the front page of ATS has something about a black man or a man of color is in STRONG relation to something negative.

The black man has been brought to this land from Africa; they were enslaved and highly mistreated, then once people grew a bit more civilized, they were given a few rights but still mistreated.

But what's the real reason a black man is how he is?

You remove a black man from Africa, split him from his family, force him to work, abuse him, kill them because you felt like it, raped their wives, caged them.

I had figured someone would make mention of this, which is why at some point in this thread I've apologized to women as I was once against the act of feminism. I'd hope it would suggest the term 'man' isn't taken as is, but some of us are just triggered easily by a word. But haven't black people(man and woman, for your case) also risen above it? Aren't both groups rising? I'd expect a feminist to be on par with a lot of what is said here, because you can understand rising against oppression. But you choose to get triggered by the reference of the word 'man'. That's fine though, I'll accept it as a fault of my own as the words I had stated are in fact "Man" and is supposedly angled from the view of a "Man", because I am a "Man" however, both black man and woman had experienced much of the same reality.

This special snowflake understands however, "If the cap doesn't fit then don't wear it."

a reply to: SuspiciousTom

Sure, I do. I absolutely believe that black America has made a lot of progress in the face of adversity. But you were the one suggesting they mistreat people, kill people for the color of their skin, rape women, hurt people for their own amusement, use racial slurs, and are poor because they learned it from white Americans:

The black man has been brought to this land from Africa; they were enslaved and highly mistreated, then once people grew a bit more civilized, they were given a few rights but still mistreated. They were subject to death at any time for just being black. Meaning, if your soul found itself within the casing of a dark skinned person, you could be killed.

But what's the real reason a black man is how he is? Where did he learn all this? You remove a black man from Africa, split him from his family, force him to work, abuse him, kill them because you felt like it, raped their wives, caged them. You made them animals for your own amusement, then you set them free, however, you set them free during a time when they were looked down on. How are they to survive? You released your "Monkeys" with absolutely no money, no education, nothing. Who would hire them? Who would want them in their schools? What do you expect them to do? Rise?

It doesn't sound to me like you understand the progress black America has made -- you seem to feel they have succumbed.

And you don't seem to understand that one way to "Rise" is by 'Rising to the occasion.'

Violence has no color, love transcends through all colors.
peace.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: SuspiciousTom

Sure, I do. I absolutely believe that black America has made a lot of progress in the face of adversity. But you were the one suggesting they mistreat people, kill people for the color of their skin, rape women, hurt people for their own amusement, use racial slurs, and are poor because they learned it from white Americans:

The black man has been brought to this land from Africa; they were enslaved and highly mistreated, then once people grew a bit more civilized, they were given a few rights but still mistreated. They were subject to death at any time for just being black. Meaning, if your soul found itself within the casing of a dark skinned person, you could be killed.

But what's the real reason a black man is how he is? Where did he learn all this? You remove a black man from Africa, split him from his family, force him to work, abuse him, kill them because you felt like it, raped their wives, caged them. You made them animals for your own amusement, then you set them free, however, you set them free during a time when they were looked down on. How are they to survive? You released your "Monkeys" with absolutely no money, no education, nothing. Who would hire them? Who would want them in their schools? What do you expect them to do? Rise?

It doesn't sound to me like you understand the progress black America has made -- you seem to feel they have succumbed to it.

And you don't seem to understand that one way to "Rise" is by 'Rising to the occasion.'

Again, the wording, where the "Rise" is placed would somewhat contextually align to the time they were released, the expectations of them. Are they to just instantly beat all odds and make something out of nothing and become great educated citizen because they are no longer chained and whipped? Is there to be a magical growth? It should be gradual.

I didn't suggest they learned it from white people, but do understand, some will follow what they have seen, some will hate those who had oppressed them and the majority will undergo a mental storm. What I did suggest is many of them didn't have the privilege to get an education post slavery and had one choice as an outcast and they did take it. They embrace a reality which was their only choice and it's been forced down the line.

I do acknowledge their advancement and they continue on the path, they are asking the police to be more mindful and for better treatment of their kind, there are many persons striking out against this.

a reply to: SuspiciousTom

I know many a "black" person fed up with criminals being treated as a protected class due to their skin color and are fed up with crime being allowed to run rampant in their communities.

So what about these black skinned folk that don't buy into the narrative you're espousing? Do their voices not count?

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: SuspiciousTom

I know many a "black" person fed up with criminals being treated as a protected class due to their skin color and are fed up with crime being allowed to run rampant in their communities.

So what about these black skinned folk that don't buy into the narrative you're espousing? Do their voices not count?

I don't support crime, I've stated before that we the black persons are just as scared as any other, we all want to live. The problem lies, if black criminals are killing us along side the police then who do we turn to? What do we do? Do we buy guns and take it into our own hands? Or do we ask for help? If no one values your life but you, what do you do?

a reply to: SuspiciousTom

You are the most generalizing poster I've seen in a while.

Perhaps you could explain to me how all "White Americans" are the same? Because that's what your title says.

Now, also perhaps you could explain how all Black Men's cries are ignored? Because there are a lot of Black Men crying out about what the Democrats have done to destroy their community, and some of us listen to them, just as some Liberals will ignore them.

There is no epidemic of police killing black people, there is no epidemic of the police killing ANYONE disproportionately. It's a myth perpetuated by the media to stir up dissent in an attempt (which is backfiring) to drum up support for the Liberals, or "Progressives" whichever they choose to call themselves this week.

White privilege is also a myth. I've certainly never gotten any privilege for my white side, considering I look and am mostly white. Are certain people privileged? Yes, they are, and some were born into it. I know rich Black people, rich Asian people, rich Latinos....etc. They or their parents worked for that privilege, and it's called risk, and self reliance. Something the left has continually denied the Black community.

These protests, as demonstrated by the ones in NC, are bogus, baseless, and are being SPONSORED by George Soros to promote racial discontent. If you can't see that is wrong on so many levels, YOU are the problem.

White people (for the most part, there are racists, bigots and idiots in EVERY race) want to live in peace with everyone, and to be equal to everyone. They are just getting tired of being accused of being things they aren't, as anyone would be.

Just had me some chocolate this morning

originally posted by: Lysergic
Just had me some chocolate this morning

I commend you.

originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: SuspiciousTom

You are the most generalizing poster I've seen in a while.

Perhaps you could explain to me how all "White Americans" are the same? Because that's what your title says.

Now, also perhaps you could explain how all Black Men's cries are ignored? Because there are a lot of Black Men crying out about what the Democrats have done to destroy their community, and some of us listen to them, just as some Liberals will ignore them.

There is no epidemic of police killing black people, there is no epidemic of the police killing ANYONE disproportionately. It's a myth perpetuated by the media to stir up dissent in an attempt (which is backfiring) to drum up support for the Liberals, or "Progressives" whichever they choose to call themselves this week.

White privilege is also a myth. I've certainly never gotten any privilege for my white side, considering I look and am mostly white. Are certain people privileged? Yes, they are, and some were born into it. I know rich Black people, rich Asian people, rich Latinos....etc. They or their parents worked for that privilege, and it's called risk, and self reliance. Something the left has continually denied the Black community.

These protests, as demonstrated by the ones in NC, are bogus, baseless, and are being SPONSORED by George Soros to promote racial discontent. If you can't see that is wrong on so many levels, YOU are the problem.

White people (for the most part, there are racists, bigots and idiots in EVERY race) want to live in peace with everyone, and to be equal to everyone. [B]They are just getting tired of being accused of being things they aren't, as anyone would be.[/B]

I think that 1 statement, at the end of everything you just said, is the far most relevant statement.

As for your other statements, privilege isn't just being rich.
Racists, know themselves, others who it doesn't apply to ignore the situation/generalization. But the generalization hurts the reputation of the race.

a reply to: SuspiciousTom

You're not listening. You're buying into a false narrative being spread by people trying to keep you in a perpetual state of murdering each other. Manipulated statistics, media blowing every somewhat questionable run in with police out of proportion, a systematic attempt to keep your criminals protected.

Here's a basic fact, your communities have been overrun with violent criminals using violent lethal weapons as they go about their business. Your communities have far fewer cops than they should, putting more stress and strain on the cops that are there, who constantly are a hair's trigger away from death by the same criminals killing everyone. Since these areas are so crime riddle there will be more encounters between cops and criminals. We have overworked cops, in extra stressful situations, with an overabundance of violent criminals, a media looking to push a specific narrative, and people like Soros also pushing that narrative. You're looking at a part of a picture but failing to see the whole picture.

Someone is making a concerted effort to over stress the cops, underpolice your neighborhoods, and protect your criminals while glorifying your criminal culture by promoting thug culture and gangster rap.

You however choose to buy into exact what they want you to, and in doing so, further protect the crime rampant in your streets.

I've known many black people fed up with people like you buying into this false narrative pushing more and more cops out and leaving more and more innocent people defenseless against the criminals who have even less restraints as a result.

If you're looking for something it's easy to find it. With all the run ins between police and blacks in these crime ridden communities, if things were really so bad as they're trying to sell you. They could come up with many more examples. Probably one for everyday if not more. Yet the best they seem to be able to come with are exceedingly questionable in nature and prone to controversy and confusion. Where are all the good clear cut examples there should be if this is so rampant?

If you have an overworked understaffed police force in a place overridden with violent armed criminals it's simply unreasonable to expect mistakes will never occur. Everyone in this scenario is on edge.

How rampant is it really? How many factors have you really considered before coming to the conclusion that it's the police that are the biggest problem here? It seems to me they are getting a pretty raw deal and being put in an impossible situation. No wonder some of them snap.

The real people suffering here are the innocents in the black community with the only protection they have from a protected class of violent criminals is an understaffed overworked police force that have every mistake thrown in their face in an attempt to neuter them even further from their already impossible situation.

I'm not denying police corruption is there and does not occur, but it is not as rampant as they're trying to sell you. They're trying to convince you the corruption is so rampant you're better off without police while ignoring that your issue may be too few. Let's look at the crime statistics in these black communities. Do you really think you'll be better off with even less cops, or ones too afraid to try and help because they might make a mistake?

a reply to: Puppylove

Outstanding reply!

a reply to: Puppylove

Something to consider: when you say "your neighborhoods", what is being ignored is that those are "their neighborhoods" because of the Federal Government herding them there with housing subsidies. And while it may not be only black people living in HUD housing, statistically it would seem that in most urban ghettos, it basically is.

This all results from the viewpoint that the poor are the problem, instead of seeing socioeconomic vacuums as the problem. When you have such a viewpoint, herding the people into smaller areas makes sense, since it makes your problem easier to manage.

a reply to: Puppylove

Well I have a much better understanding of what you have said. And there are good points but there are also many ignored points. The mere fact that there are towering numbers of black criminals doesn't mean we should all pay for it.(Thread title)

While it's not just about the murders but the constant threat, I understand police are overworked, under constant threat, in fear but that doesn't justify mistreatment. Not because I'm black means I'm a criminal, not because I'm black and uneducated means I'm a criminal, Not because I'm black and don't behave as you do, means I'm a criminal.

So yes, I do get what you are saying, which suggest this negative light will only suggest to them hey, step back and let them do it themselves, it will breed only more violence amongst themselves. But, don't you think that is also a bit disillusioned? Much of the crime is from drug trade and gang associations. It's rampant within the black community, you'll almost never get rid of the criminals if you're targeting them(the small timer) because of relaxed gun laws. Which we all understand the police force knows, the FBI knows and any other intelligence agency. You dismantle the core, the leaders, the distributors but there is much corruption within the land. The corruption allows the big players to get away with continuously fueling the small timer.

But let's get back on track, being black almost definitely means you're a guilty criminal. That's the stereotype faced(Thread title) almost like a muslim at an airport.


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And as you've said, with so many criminals around, how do you find time to kill people from simple traffic stops? There can be better treatment and far less harassment.

a reply to: Puppylove

Bravo!!

Well said.

a reply to: SuspiciousTom

You may want to place the blame on the people that taught that hypothetical police officer to be so wary of a specific group of people.

And I don't mean his trainers at the Police Academy. I mean the violent/unpredictable thugs they deal with all day, everyday. They are the police, that's what they do. Eventually it becomes a learned trait to some.

Now, if the crime rates were to go down in those communities, and the police were not feeling threatened all the time, then it would stop.it will not, however stop by the Police just being nicer. Criminals actually would LOVE that. The more restrictions you impose on a Policeperson, the more freedom you give the criminal element. It's a balancing act, the Police are there for a reason.