Reddit post apparently related to Clintons email coverup

a reply to: Indigo5

Also, Stonetear said it was the VIP's email address he wanted to strip out.

...So he believes only Hillary's email address should be kept private?

The argument that he was just trying to protect her email address from being made public does not hold water and her email address was public for more than a year by then. He knew the substance of the request was completely born from the fact that Hillary was caught using a private email server to send & receive emails from a private email address that was already exposed.

That he was trying to protect her email address from being made public was obviously an excuse he made up once Reddit users started to bring up legal issues with regard to discovery of evidence.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Indigo5

He received IMMUNITY from the FBI regarding what he did and did not do with her email and email server..and was interviewed multiple times by them.

His immunity was limited and it was granted before he tampered with the emails. That is the meaning of his 'Oh #' moment.
He very well may have violated that agreement with the tampering.

From everything I could google he was granted immunity early this year...the Reddit exchange was a couple years ago.

They were still in the process of subpoenaing emails when he was on Reddit..The FBI investigation wasn't even rolling with interviews then.

I am 99% percent sure you are 100% wrong.

I am not 100% wrong about him being granted limited immunity.
If he did naughty things that were not disclosed when he made the immunity deal... he is not immune from prosecution for those things.

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
so basically he will be the fall guy and hillary will be let off as she claims she dot know how a plug works never midnd a computer- not a real claim obviosuly. a reply to: Agit8dChop

Rumours are circulating that he is going to sing like a canary... we'll see.

Who is he going to sing to? The FBI? The DOJ?

And, what do you think THEY will do with his "song"?

He has already received immunity from the DOJ and has been interviewed multiple times.

Nothing in the reddit exchange changes that status and in the reddit exchange itself he claimed it was to replace a personal email with a place-holder as to not expose the email address...not hide an identity.

He is not under the gun here...That is an objective view...I get people want him to be..but looking at the evidence and his immunity status...I don't see it.

OK.. bottom line. Where are we headed with this issue? What's the next thing to look for from investigators, prosecutors, or whatever?

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
so basically he will be the fall guy and hillary will be let off as she claims she dot know how a plug works never midnd a computer- not a real claim obviosuly. a reply to: Agit8dChop

Rumours are circulating that he is going to sing like a canary... we'll see.

Who is he going to sing to? The FBI? The DOJ?

And, what do you think THEY will do with his "song"?

He has already received immunity from the DOJ and has been interviewed multiple times.

Nothing in the reddit exchange changes that status and in the reddit exchange itself he claimed it was to replace a personal email with a place-holder as to not expose the email address...not hide an identity.

He is not under the gun here...That is an objective view...I get people want him to be..but looking at the evidence and his immunity status...I don't see it.

The email story first broke in 2013 and then in 2014, the day before stonetear's reddit enquiry the House Select Committee on Benghazi reached an agreement with the state dept about handing over Hillary's work-related emails.

If it's him, it's fairly simple, he was trying to hide evidence on the request of someone else.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

In a room full of lawyers...the argument he makes does not have to be rock solid, it just has to be "sufficient"..

That's the facts of it...

From the Reddit post (at the time..same reddit exchange) where he says he is just looking to protect a private email address with a place-holder...he has covered his ass...add to that he has immunity already and has been already interviewed by the FBI...He is in a safe place...no smoking gun..

Just being objective

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
so basically he will be the fall guy and hillary will be let off as she claims she dot know how a plug works never midnd a computer- not a real claim obviosuly. a reply to: Agit8dChop

Rumours are circulating that he is going to sing like a canary... we'll see.

Who is he going to sing to? The FBI? The DOJ?

And, what do you think THEY will do with his "song"?

He has already received immunity from the DOJ and has been interviewed multiple times.

But, he received immunity in exchange for his cooperation. So, if he did not cooperate and tell the FBI that 'they' asked him to strip out Hillary's email address before the archive was destroyed, then he violated his immunity agreement and it could be revoked.

Also, whether he claims, 'they' wanted her email address to remain private or not (but no one else's...just Hillary's), it's still illegal and still constitutes a conspiracy to tamper with evidence and obstruct justice.

originally posted by: Indigo5

From the Reddit post (at the time..same reddit exchange) where he says he is just looking to protect a private email address with a place-holder...he has covered his ass...add to that he has immunity already and has been already interviewed by the FBI...He is in a safe place...no smoking gun..

Just being objective

Who are 'they' and do 'they' have immunity?

Regardless of the reason he gives for doing it, it is still a federal crime. And 'they' conspired to commit that crime.

originally posted by: Indigo5



Sure...Changing a personal email to a place holder like (Hillary Clinton)...might very well be attempted evidence tampering...but he received full blanket immunity from the FBI before being interviewed by them...and he might have already fully disclosed this..

Yes, and if he disclosed this and the FBI knows that another person was involved, they are being corrupt.

"They" is a big word...from a legal perspective...not a smoking gun IMO. Is he a one man shop? Or does he work for an IT firm? It could have been his bosses at the IT firm? A lawyer?...and it could have been HRCs staff or HRC herself..but the word "they" doesn't hang anyone.

Ok, it could have been anyone of the people you mention. Then why weren't they arrested if Combetta disclosed this to the FBI? I don't care if he claimed the they was just the people at his firm, he is implying here someone instructed him to break the law.

So there are two possibilities. He told the FBI this, but the FBI chose not to press charges on whoever Combetta said the "they" was despite the fact "they" didn't have immunity. This would mean the FBI chose not to do their job, and let someone get away with breaking the law for some unknown reason. To me, this cast doubts on rather or not the FBI was impartial.

Or Combetta didn't disclose he was asked by someone to do this, which means he violated the terms of his immunity and should be immediately arrested.

NOT my theory...he says precisely that in the reddit exchange.

If the bleach-bit stuff had veracity and teeth it would be more than a headline and the DOJ has looked into it already.

What do you mean if it had veracity? The FBI admitted this was against the law, they just implied Combetta did it in his own, and he had immunity. This reddit exchanged proves that someone he refers to as "they" wanted him to break the law.

The bleachbit shows that he wasn't just innocently trying to put a placeholder name in, despite what he says in his second reddit post. If he was, he wouldn't have erased all of the emails later that day.

And why are you even posting possible explanations for what might have happened, when your final stance will always be "Well if anything was done wrong, the FBI and DOJ would have done more" OK we get it, thats your stance.

AGAIN...that is what he actually says in that exchange...Not "my" and not "theorey"

User “stonetear” responded: “The issue is that these emails involve the private email address of someone you'd recognize, and we're trying to replace it with a placeholder address as to not expose it.”

www.foxnews.com...

If you want to have an objective conversation...stop acting like I am making this stuff up.


You have the above in quotes? Where was that on the reddit exchange?

It wasn't on the exhange. Do you understand what is happening on this thread? People are trying to piece together what happened given the material we can see.

When I say your theory, I mean what do you think happened. It seems as if you are suggesting that you believe stonetear in his second post, that after he was told what he was doing w=could be illegal by another reddit user, he claimed he was just looking for a placeholder. Maybe that is not what you believe and you are just saying this could be a potential story he gives.

My quotes weren't in the reddit thread, but my point is that if you go by "the" theory (not your theory apparently) that he was just trying to release all of the emails but merely put in a placeholder in place of her email, why would he later that day bleach bit everything? I was pointing out what his thought process may have looked like.

What would be your explanation. If he was just looking for a placeholder, why would he then use bleach bit?

And more importantly, do you think it is important to get to the bottom of these questions?

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Indigo5

He received IMMUNITY from the FBI regarding what he did and did not do with her email and email server..and was interviewed multiple times by them.

His immunity was limited and it was granted before he tampered with the emails. That is the meaning of his 'Oh #' moment.
He very well may have violated that agreement with the tampering.

From everything I could google he was granted immunity early this year...the Reddit exchange was a couple years ago.

They were still in the process of subpoenaing emails when he was on Reddit..The FBI investigation wasn't even rolling with interviews then.

I am 99% percent sure you are 100% wrong.

I am not 100% wrong about him being granted limited immunity.
If he did naughty things that were not disclosed when he made the immunity deal... he is not immune from prosecution for those things.

What makes you think the immunity was "limited" and not "blanket"?

It would be nice if you outright admitted you made the last post up about him being granted immunity before he made the reddit post? I might take you more seriously and find you more credible and be interested in trading posts if you acknowledged you were wrong with your claim?

It's possible he disclosed this already to the FBI under immunity..
"Did you alter the emails in any way possible"...No
"Did you attempt to alter the emails in any way possible"...yes..I was trying to swap her email address with a place-holder to protect the address but was unsuccessfully..

It goes on and on...but there is no route where this has legal teeth..

originally posted by: carewemust
OK.. bottom line. Where are we headed with this issue? What's the next thing to look for from investigators, prosecutors, or whatever?

The only thing I expect to happen is that Congress will get their interviews with the PRN employees, they will, on the advice of their Attorney's, plead the fifth again...

With the DOJ backing them up, the only smoking gun would have to be Assange's next batch of leaks?

Although I did read on reddit that some dark web folks have Combetta's emails... have to wait and see on that aspect...

I sure hope Combetta has sought refuge from some folks outside of the establishment... It's tough to be StoneTear right now...

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
so basically he will be the fall guy and hillary will be let off as she claims she dot know how a plug works never midnd a computer- not a real claim obviosuly. a reply to: Agit8dChop

Rumours are circulating that he is going to sing like a canary... we'll see.

Who is he going to sing to? The FBI? The DOJ?

And, what do you think THEY will do with his "song"?

He has already received immunity from the DOJ and has been interviewed multiple times.

But, he received immunity in exchange for his cooperation. So, if he did not cooperate and tell the FBI that 'they' asked him to strip out Hillary's email address before the archive was destroyed, then he violated his immunity agreement and it could be revoked.

Let me restate the above:

He received immunity in exchange for his cooperation. So, if he did not cooperate and tell the FBI that 'they' asked him to strip out Hillary's email address before the archive was destroyed, then he violated his immunity agreement and it could be revoked.

HOWEVER, if he did tell the FBI and they buried the info and ignored it, THEN the FBI is involved in a conspiracy to obstruct justice. But, Combetta is totes "off the hook."

Take your pick.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Take your pick.

HOWEVER, if he did tell the FBI and they buried the info and ignored it, THEN the FBI is involved in a conspiracy to obstruct justice. But, Combetta is totes "off the hook."


ETA: Maybe the DOJ is, too. (Now there's a conundrum!!)

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Take your pick.

HOWEVER, if he did tell the FBI and they buried the info and ignored it, THEN the FBI is involved in a conspiracy to obstruct justice. But, Combetta is totes "off the hook."

I shudder, Queen.

If the FBI had this info -- evidence of a cover up -- then went in front of Congress and said they could find no evidence of intent...

I'd like to say that's too unbelievable to be true. But my confidence in the FBI is for sh*t now.

If Combette had already shared with the FBI his queries on Reddit and the FBI knows all about that, then why would Combetta panic two days ago and try to edit all of his past internet posts? To me, the hasty attempt at covering his web tracks implies that he is trying to hide the posts from someone other than Congress. If it were merely Congress he was trying to hide the posts from, wouldn't he just plead the 5th again, with the full support of Comey and the FBI since they seem complicit in covering all the damning information up already? Where am I going wrong with this logic...what am I missing?

originally posted by: xtradimensions
If Combette had already shared with the FBI his queries on Reddit and the FBI knows all about that, then why would Combetta panic two days ago and try to edit all of his past internet posts? To me, the hasty attempt at covering his web tracks implies that he is trying to hide the posts from someone other than Congress. If it were merely Congress he was trying to hide the posts from, wouldn't he just plead the 5th again, with the full support of Comey and the FBI since they seem complicit in covering all the damning information up already?

More cover-up, more evidence of intent by way of 'consciousness of guilt.'

a reply to: MotherMayEye


The day Bill Clinton walked onto Loretta Lynch's plane and visited with her for thirty minutes and it was treated like no big deal was the day I knew something changed drastically.

originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: MotherMayEye

In a room full of lawyers...the argument he makes does not have to be rock solid, it just has to be "sufficient"..

That's the facts of it...

From the Reddit post (at the time..same reddit exchange) where he says he is just looking to protect a private email address with a place-holder...he has covered his ass...add to that he has immunity already and has been already interviewed by the FBI...He is in a safe place...no smoking gun..

Just being objective

No you are wrong. You keep focusing on his second reddit post where he says he is just looking for a placeholder, but you have conceded the fact that because these emails were asked for by congress THE DAY BEFORE his reddit post, this would constitute evidence tampering.

You ignore the firts of his posts where he says "they" want to do this, implying another party. This means that this other party ordered him to break the law, and thud did so themselves.

You keep saying Combetta had immunity, but the immunity only holds if Combetta was total truthful with the FBI. If he hid the truth, the immunity is off of the table.

This leads to two possibilities.
1. Combetta told the FBI the truth, that others ordered him to try to tamper with the emails. In this situation, Combetta is off of the hook. However, who ever he told them the "they" was is now accountable for the law they broke, and they do not have immunity.

This is arguably why he was granted immunity in the first place, to go after the people that told him to break the law, the bigger fish. Yet for some reason, the FBI chose not to go after that person or people.

If this is true, then the FBI needs to tell the people why they made this choice, and why they hid the fact that they knew someone told him to do this from the public.

2. Combetta did not tell the FBI he was told to break the law. Now if the FBI finds out that he was in fact told to do so, his immunity would be scrapped, and he should be arrested for tampering with (and deleting) evidence.

If the Stonetear on reddit is Combetta, it seems to show that he is saying "they" wanted him to do this. This would be enough for the FBI to bring him in to requestion him on why he told the FBI he acted alone, but says others wanted him to do this on reddit.

So, "more consciousness of guilt" for Combetta...or also consciousness of guilt that the FBI and DOJ are covering for Hillary? In my mind, I can't work out why the extreme panic (my assumption) by Combetta which caused him to engage in the folly of attempting to delete the Reddit posts if the FBI knew about them already (which is speculation at this point). Im trying to see beyond what my brain is telling me, which is that Combetta was attempting to hide the posts because he wasn't forthright with the FBI when getting his immunity deal. What am I missing, because I have a feeling it can't be that simple. a reply to: MotherMayEye

a reply to: Grambler

1. Combetta told the FBI the truth, that others ordered him to try to tamper with the emails. In this situation, Combetta is off of the hook. However, who ever he told them the "they" was is now accountable for the law they broke, and they do not have immunity.

This is arguably why he was granted immunity in the first place, to go after the people that told him to break the law, the bigger fish. Yet for some reason, the FBI chose not to go after that person or people.

If this is true, then the FBI needs to tell the people why they made this choice, and why they hid the fact that they knew someone told him to do this from the public.

Here is the thing I don't get. Every time there is a major case of terrorism, murder etc, the online activities of the suspect is almost the first thing to be mentioned, right? How many times have we seen this happen?

Now to anybody with a smidgeon of intelligence, the fact that the FBI did NOT thoroughly investigate a guy involved in one of the biggest cases of the decade just looks ridiculous. I mean how could that even be a possibility?

Every single account this person ever had that could be traced would have been looked into with a fine tooth comb.

So there really is only one logical conclusion: the FBI has had this information, and they have chosen not to use it. At whose behest, Lynch's?