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originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
so basically he will be the fall guy and hillary will be let off as she claims she dot know how a plug works never midnd a computer- not a real claim obviosuly. a reply to: Agit8dChop
originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
so basically he will be the fall guy and hillary will be let off as she claims she dot know how a plug works never midnd a computer- not a real claim obviosuly. a reply to: Agit8dChop
User “stonetear” responded:
“The issue is that these emails involve the private email address of someone you'd recognize, and we're trying to replace it with a placeholder address as to not expose it.”
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
so basically he will be the fall guy and hillary will be let off as she claims she dot know how a plug works never midnd a computer- not a real claim obviosuly. a reply to: Agit8dChop
Rumours are circulating that he is going to sing like a canary... we'll see.
User “stonetear” responded:
“The issue is that these emails involve the private email address of someone you'd recognize, and we're trying to replace it with a placeholder address as to not expose it.”
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
so basically he will be the fall guy and hillary will be let off as she claims she dot know how a plug works never midnd a computer- not a real claim obviosuly. a reply to: Agit8dChop
Rumours are circulating that he is going to sing like a canary... we'll see.
What would he sing?
The same exchange cited here includes this..
User “stonetear” responded:
“The issue is that these emails involve the private email address of someone you'd recognize, and we're trying to replace it with a placeholder address as to not expose it.”
www.foxnews.com...
In email exchanges that are made public...Most of them swap the actual email address for a placeholder like (Hillary Clinton) to protect the actual email address.
You can argue the veracity of that..
But that is what he said he was doing at the time in that Reddit exchange...
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Indigo5
sure, but lack of clarity on his part doesnt translate well with voters.
If the email "thing" had been forgotten then yes. Pretend and insist until it goes away like usual...
It is now a throbbing scandal that people dont understand, which is actually worse for clinton.
In the end there is a "gut feeling" directing the masses, and its growing into pulsing pains of caution with her.
originally posted by: Indigo5
I was only speaking to the actual context and facts and they don't support the inference when you read the follow-up reddit post. He was looking to protect exposing her email address, not her identity.
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Indigo5
sure, but lack of clarity on his part doesnt translate well with voters.
If the email "thing" had been forgotten then yes. Pretend and insist until it goes away like usual...
It is now a throbbing scandal that people dont understand, which is actually worse for clinton.
In the end there is a "gut feeling" directing the masses, and its growing into pulsing pains of caution with her.
Oh...no doubt it has campaign utility and folks are not interested in the fine details...
I was only speaking to the actual context and facts and they don't support the inference when you read the follow-up reddit post. He was looking to protect exposing her email address, not her identity. Thus his explaining that he wanted to replace it with a "Placeholder"...or at the very least he established that motive on the Reddit exchange at the time. That combined with him giving extensive interviews already to the DOJ under the safe umbrella of immunity...No revelation here and no smoking gun IMO. Headlines? Some utility for Trump Campaign...of course.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: Indigo5
I was only speaking to the actual context and facts and they don't support the inference when you read the follow-up reddit post. He was looking to protect exposing her email address, not her identity.
Doesn't hold water. Her email address was already public by then.
originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: Agit8dChop
Interesting..
He has already received Immunity from the DOJ and cooperated with the FBI and had multiple interviews and answered questions.
He took the 5th with the congressional hearings.
So the DOJ might be well aware of what transpired.
And as hopeful as the Anti-Clinton crowd might be that this is a smoking gun...
It has to be stated for realty's sake...
He might have been simply trying to protect a personal email address by substituting it with a generic place holder...
Replacing [email protected] with "Hillary Clinton"
His Reddit post from the exchange cited infers the same..
User “stonetear” responded:
“The issue is that these emails involve the private email address of someone you'd recognize, and we're trying to replace it with a placeholder address as to not expose it.”
www.foxnews.com...
If this doesn't comport with his FBI interview...they can both retract his immunity and arrest him for lying to the FBI etc.
If it does comport with what the FBI already knows...then this will be the Congressional GOP demanding he testify again...and he can continue to take the 5th or the FBI can intercede and say they are already aware of the circumstances etc.
Either way it serves as fodder for the election cycle.
originally posted by: Steak
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Indigo5
sure, but lack of clarity on his part doesnt translate well with voters.
If the email "thing" had been forgotten then yes. Pretend and insist until it goes away like usual...
It is now a throbbing scandal that people dont understand, which is actually worse for clinton.
In the end there is a "gut feeling" directing the masses, and its growing into pulsing pains of caution with her.
Oh...no doubt it has campaign utility and folks are not interested in the fine details...
I was only speaking to the actual context and facts and they don't support the inference when you read the follow-up reddit post. He was looking to protect exposing her email address, not her identity. Thus his explaining that he wanted to replace it with a "Placeholder"...or at the very least he established that motive on the Reddit exchange at the time. That combined with him giving extensive interviews already to the DOJ under the safe umbrella of immunity...No revelation here and no smoking gun IMO. Headlines? Some utility for Trump Campaign...of course.
I've posted this a few times now - this is as likely a smoking gun as we'll find. Clearly, Stonetear started by wanting to change HRC's name - that didn't work so they broke out bleachbit.
According to Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz, the following email exchange occurred between Combetta and another undisclosed Platte River Network staff member back on 8/19/15:
“Wondering how we can sneak an email in now, after the fact, asking them [the Clinton camp] when they told us to cut the backups and have them confirm it for our records. Starting to think this whole thing is really covering up some shady #. I just think if we have it in writing that they told us to cut the backups then we can go public with our statement saying we’ve had the backup since day one when we were told to trim to 30 days would make us look a whole lot better.”
originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Possibly...but the bottom line is that his "out" is there in the thread.
He could have (or claim the same) (A) He was unaware that Hillary's email had already been exposed by Gawker..or (B) That he was looking to replace someone elses private email addy with a place holder "Chelsea Clinton"...Bill...Colin Powel..And while it might be attempted evidence tampering, he was apparently unsuccessful and received immunity from the DOJ prior to his interviews with them.
I don't see a route where this has legitimate legal teeth..campaign rhetorical teeth? Sure...but in the context of his post claiming he was looking to protect an email address with a place-holder...plus his existing immunity with the DOJ?
It's headlines...not something that the DOJ will chase...they might already be aware of this.
A person commits the crime of tampering with evidence when he or she knowingly:
-alters, conceals, falsifies, or destroys any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to interfere with an investigation, possible investigation, or other proceeding by the federal government.
(18 U.S.C. § 1519.)
This crime includes making false entries in records or doctoring documents, such as by “cooking the books” of a business to hide illegal activity or avoid taxes or other required payments.
Tampering with evidence also includes destroying or altering documents or things “in contemplation of” an investigation or other proceeding that may occur in the future.
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: Steak
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Indigo5
sure, but lack of clarity on his part doesnt translate well with voters.
If the email "thing" had been forgotten then yes. Pretend and insist until it goes away like usual...
It is now a throbbing scandal that people dont understand, which is actually worse for clinton.
In the end there is a "gut feeling" directing the masses, and its growing into pulsing pains of caution with her.
Oh...no doubt it has campaign utility and folks are not interested in the fine details...
I was only speaking to the actual context and facts and they don't support the inference when you read the follow-up reddit post. He was looking to protect exposing her email address, not her identity. Thus his explaining that he wanted to replace it with a "Placeholder"...or at the very least he established that motive on the Reddit exchange at the time. That combined with him giving extensive interviews already to the DOJ under the safe umbrella of immunity...No revelation here and no smoking gun IMO. Headlines? Some utility for Trump Campaign...of course.
I've posted this a few times now - this is as likely a smoking gun as we'll find. Clearly, Stonetear started by wanting to change HRC's name - that didn't work so they broke out bleachbit.
According to Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz, the following email exchange occurred between Combetta and another undisclosed Platte River Network staff member back on 8/19/15:
“Wondering how we can sneak an email in now, after the fact, asking them [the Clinton camp] when they told us to cut the backups and have them confirm it for our records. Starting to think this whole thing is really covering up some shady #. I just think if we have it in writing that they told us to cut the backups then we can go public with our statement saying we’ve had the backup since day one when we were told to trim to 30 days would make us look a whole lot better.”
I need a link and a solid one for that claim above...that seems sensational...
I don't even think Chaffetz would claim that without releasing the actual email..