Why is Tubal Cain revered by Masons?

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Muffenstuff

Instead of ranting, how about posting this "solid evidence"?

You said you had some. It's certainly not been posted yet.

How about not ignoring the fact that I already did?

Maybe in the world of Masonic semantics it is not evidence, but I don't reside in that world.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff


Further, from a site responding to the slanderous accusations of a particular website and written by a Mason, after Tubal-Cain's mention by Hall that the Mason should emulate his forefather Tubal-Cain (written in 1923, or published in) while the Mason refutes several erroneous accusations by the anti Mason.

He doesn't, however, refute the fact that Hall said Tubal-Cain should be emulated (paraphrasing, I can't remember the exact words but emulate will do and forefather is a quote).

He says:

" Tubal-Cain changes the chaotic and painful into something that focuses the uncontrolled power into something good and productive."

Certainly someone who makes such changes is to be admired and revered, clearly this Mason is in admiration of Tubal-Cain for this change and makes no ma ha bones about it.

Mason counters false accusations of anti Mason

For example.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Muffenstuff

Instead of ranting, how about posting this "solid evidence"?

You said you had some. It's certainly not been posted yet.

How about not ignoring the fact that I already did?

There's no basis of fact.

You posted a guy mentioning Tubal Cain.
You posted a play on words.

Wow! Such "solid evidence" lol.

Something you don't seem to realise, or just don't know, is that Freemaonry is open to every religion world wide. That takes the whole "revering someone from one religion" out of the equation.

a reply to: TerryDon79

That's your opinion. Using semantics at that.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

Seriously? Albert Pike and Morals & Dogma?

You must be desperate.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
a reply to: TerryDon79

That's your opinion. Using semantics at that.

It's no where near my "opinion". It is what it is.

You're trying (badly) to make connections where there are none.

a reply to: TerryDon79

I didn't use Morals and Dogma at all.

Whose desperate? Not me.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
a reply to: TerryDon79

I didn't use Morals and Dogma at all.

Whose desperate? Not me.

You just linked to a blog about morals and dogma lol.

Do you not read you own links?

a reply to: TerryDon79

I didn't even mention Pike. However I don't see how if I had that would be desperation as he seems to be admired by Masons today faily openly.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
a reply to: TerryDon79

I didn't even mention Pike. However I don't see how if I had that would be desperation as he seems to be admired by Masons today faily openly.

Really?

I'm guessing you can prove that too?

a reply to: TerryDon79

The blog mentioned it, not me.

The only reason I used it was for the Hall reference.

You ARE desperate. Why?

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
a reply to: TerryDon79

The blog mentioned it, not me.

The only reason I used it was for the Hall reference.

You ARE desperate. Why?

The WHOLE BLOG is about morals and dogma lol.

Why are you trying so hard to prove a point that doesn't exist?

a reply to: TerryDon79

Don't need to prove the obvious. Do I need to prove GW was the first President or that Ben Franklin was a great man of his day and a Mason.

Some things are just common knowledge and common sense.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

Masons "revere" the Great Architect of the Universe, we mention Tubal Cain, Pathagrious, And several other people of historical significance. If you really want to believe that you know more than those of us who have been masons for years, learned all the stations in the lodge, and presided over the lodge as master, then I suppose that is your right.

I honestly don't give a crap what you think you know, it doesn't affect me at all. So enjoy your pseudo knowledge. But if you want to know what masons learn or what masons know, try asking, it's much easier than telling us stuff that isn't true, then getting upset that nobody believes you.

Most masons don't dive too far into the teachings of the mystery schools. The subject matter you are looking at is quite deep into that area. So talking to people who have an interest in that, would be time better spent. (IMHO) Several masons here on this site, do have a substantial amount of knowledge in those areas, and I am sure if you presented information formed as something other than a mandate for how masons think, you may get a much better response. Basically, don't be "that guy".

a reply to: network dude

Have a good one guys.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

Yet you can't provide any "solid evidence" that Tubal Cain is revered by Freemasons.

All you can do is use word plays and a guy who mentions him.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
If you don't want people thinking you revere someone...

Here is the thing, I do not care what you think. I am just pointing out to those who are actually interested in the ritual what is factual and what is not. Your opinion obviously is not factual.

Notice I didn't say you revere Jubelo or Lucifer or Satan... because I know you don't mention them for their achievements, at all in the case of Satan and Lucifer.

Who cares? You still skirted over David and Pythagoras. But hey, that skirt looks good on you.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
a reply to: TerryDon79

The blog mentioned it, not me.

The only reason I used it was for the Hall reference.

You ARE desperate. Why?

The WHOLE BLOG is about morals and dogma lol.

Why are you trying so hard to prove a point that doesn't exist?

I am barely trying, it is so easy.

If the whole (do people still blog?) website was about Morals and Dogma (wasn't) then why did I use it for and only for the Hall quote?

I can't make the M&D references dissapear just to satisfy you, but I never mentioned Pike or Morals and Dogma and only used the site for the specific Hall quote and for the obvious fact that Hall was not rebuffed for saying it.

You make this too easy.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

Yawn.

What you linked to was about morals and dogma. The title of the page has morals and dogma in it.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You skirted my whole OP by changing the subject to David and Pythagoras. Neither of which I bothered to include in my OP which makes it off topic.

You like that word huh?