Why is Tubal Cain revered by Masons?

a reply to: Muffenstuff

The philosophers stone

sort of holy grail

this life extending substance

has no gold in it

Genesis and Revelation hint that they did, if they didn't ?

they hint at The Oil of Gold
which is a medicinal Elixir
Rosicrucian's ended up learning

Are you just trying to stunt information flow because it is a sub rosa topic?

no

this is a great place to discuss them.

you're right

i am saying that monatamic gold was not used as a holy grail
by Akhenaten or any other pharaohs
The Oil of Gold was , which is a different Elixir.

Moses was told to turn the golden calf (made of electrum ) into powder

a reply to: kibric

I kind of get it, but I am not certain either of us are wrong. We are probably talking about the same thing and don't realize it. I have heard that the philosophers stone was called a liquid but was a powder.

I really don't know, interesting conversation either way.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

Shem a na (manna) or MFKZT is what it was called. Let me know what you think after reading this: Shemanna monoatomic gold

a reply to: Muffenstuff

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Our Stone is nothing but gold digested to the highest degree of purity and subtle fixation ... our gold , no longer vulgar, is the ultimate goal of Nature

Our gold, no longer vulgar, - Alchemist's refer to Gold by itself as vulgar gold

Our gold is referring to The Oil of Gold
gold digested - Our gold digested

In species it is gold, more purer [sic] than the purest

In species it is gold - but not actually vulgar gold

but its appearance is that of a very fine powder.

Salt of Lunaria - Hermes

Nicolas Flamel called it the Philosophers' Stone

4 Stones were taught in alchemy , the last one was hidden
- The vegetable stone
- The animal stone [Bacstrom]
- The mineral stone [Oil of Gold]
- The philosophers stone

The confusion is that these stones got mixed up
an alchemist would think he has made the philosophers stone
but actually made [Oil of Gold] or another

earlier this decade
someone suggested it was urine
and the salts from it
This is only a useful Elixir depending
on what vegetable [plants] were in your diet

Ichor
en.wikipedia.org...
is the root for it for the Greeks

Monotamic gold is not Traditional alchemy
taught by Greeks , Egyptian's Romans etc

linking back into the thread
Tubal Cain being an alchemist would have
knowledge of some of these stones

what people will discover in the future about Monotamic gold
i dont know

Thanks for the link

a reply to: kibric

My pleasure, I enjoyed the intelligent comments you provided and I think that a Medieval alchemist created brass and thinking it gold he went to sell it to discover he had failed and only created brass.

I have never looked into the history of brass but being Tubal related I thought it a good tale to leave on.

a reply to: kibric

And thanks for putting me on to electrum, I had no idea what it was before today.

a reply to: kibric
Yes.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
They will never admit (or realize) it but probably. Hell they can't even figure out that Hiram Abi(ff) mentioned in the Bible is Hammurabi so how much could they actually know. Outer portico dwellers.

This is merely your opinion.

They have been usurped by B'nai Brith and are subservient to Zionism now.

Not really.

a reply to: Muffenstuff
Thanks for expressing your opinion.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
Just a fraternity dedicated to order out of chaos aka Hegelian dialectic.

Freemasonry is not about "Hegelian dialectic."

That you are aware of.

Well, I've gone through 60+ initiaic ceremonies in 23 different Masonic groups as well as doing my own research so I think I have an idea of what I'm talking about.

I didn't so non issue. Incomplete understanding is a great soundbyte but not something I am guilty of.

Well, from what you've posted I can only see that you have a incomplete understanding.

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
I think you are taking this a bit too personal and while I am entertained I am not impressed with your attitude.

Hey, Skirty, you still have not answered the question. Is David 'revered' since he got a mention?

What about Pythagoras? He get himself a pretty good mention in the Master Mason lecture.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
I think you are taking this a bit too personal and while I am entertained I am not impressed with your attitude.

Hey, Skirty, you still have not answered the question. Is David 'revered' since he got a mention?

What about Pythagoras? He get himself a pretty good mention in the Master Mason lecture.

Yeah, I don't feel obligated too. You just called me skirty, though I have refuted the claim already.

You will just keep bringing up new characters and asking me to explain things I honestly don't have to or care about.

And for calling me skirty you will not receive any further replies.

Feel free to name call me some more though I find it extremely funny.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

You certainly didn't refute anything. You moved out of its way, jumped on a boat and went to a different continent.

(AKA skirted the question)

originally posted by: Muffenstuff
Yeah, I don't feel obligated too. You just called me skirty, though I have refuted the claim already.

Actually, you did not, I asked about David two pages ago. Nice try.

You will just keep bringing up new characters and asking me to explain things I honestly don't have to or care about.

Of course you do not care about them, it exposes your whole premise for the fictitious nonsense that it is.

And for calling me skirty you will not receive any further replies.

Would you prefer Mr. Purposefully Avoiding Questions that Disprove His Theories? Kinda long but I can cut and paste it for you.

BTW, I'm still to see anything that even vaguely resembles Masons revering Tubal Cain in this thread.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Let me see if I can sum it up for you.

Guy gets mention in lecture = revered by Masons (says the non-Mason).

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That's what I thought too.

"Freemasons! OOOOoooooOOoooOoooOOOooooo!"

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus


I think you are hilarious!

You are rather sore about something that is a supposed non issue, I respect your right to say whatever you want but keep your dignity for chists sake.

You yourself said that Tubal Cain was mentioned for his accomplishments, if you don't rever the character you at least revere what he is said to have accomplished.

Comprende amiga?

a reply to: KSigMason

Your very welcome.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Muffenstuff

You certainly didn't refute anything. You moved out of its way, jumped on a boat and went to a different continent.

(AKA skirted the question)

That is simply not true. I clearly explained my point and by agreeing with someone and just stating that I didn't do something that I actually did is...nothing.

I guess you think it upsets me, the accusation of "skirting."

It's a silly and false accusation, nothing more. It makes me chuckle though.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

So show where, for instance, "Tubal Cain is revered by masons".

So far, you haven't.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Muffenstuff

So show where, for instance, "Tubal Cain is revered by masons".

So far, you haven't.

Yes, I even got Masonicius August to tell me why.

I got my answer, am satisfied, and that's that.

If you don't think so I can live with it. I am satisfied.

Have a good day.

a reply to: Muffenstuff

And what answer would that be? "Tubal Cain isn't revered by Mason"?