Welcome One and All to The 2016 Democratic National Convention

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Anyway ... it's absolutely ABSURD to state that the American people don't know Hillary Clinton.

Beyond absurd.

I agree it's absurd. But it's not really coming from the right. It seems this is the theme of the convention according to the DNC. "Who is Hillary Clinton?"

Maybe they just want to reintroduce her to try to distance her from the negative press she had during the primaries?

originally posted by: UKTruth
tweet from Trump

Not one American flag on the massive stage at the Democratic National Convention until people started complaining-then a small one. Pathetic

I must admit, I found it very odd that the national flag was so absent.

Meryl Streep was wearing one.

Does that help your feelings any?

originally posted by: UKTruth
Looks like a lot of Bernie fans are defecting to Jill Stein...

Scenes in Philly:

It was pretty epic what was going on outside the convention last night.

Yet the people who depend on the MSM for information would think the convention is all rainbows and Unicorn farts.

Together my ass.

And the new slogan, "Hillary is the change maker".
For every dollar I give her I get 50 cents back. She changes my paper money into change for sure.

She is rich off the backs of the middle class.

a reply to: UKTruth

The important thing is that the flag was absent when the speakers that were "undocumented" or concerned with the undocumented were present. Having the flag there would have been an insult to them as the progressives have shown before. Now that they are done speaking, they can show the flag. Its all about not offending anyone.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Anyway ... it's absolutely ABSURD to state that the American people don't know Hillary Clinton.

Beyond absurd.

I agree it's absurd. But it's not really coming from the right. It seems this is the theme of the convention according to the DNC. "Who is Hillary Clinton?"

Maybe they just want to reintroduce her to try to distance her from the negative press she had during the primaries?

Or maybe, and I know you probably won't agree, her long record of public service actually does make a difference to some.

As most of her work has been directly counter to the typical Republican agenda ... of course they are routinely diminishing it.

It's bread and circuses. Shadows and shadow-puppets. Both, all, any sides.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Gryphon66

Gee, I was under the impression that the topic of the thread was the DNC convention and it's attendees?

Please source your attempted deflection or admit that it is completely OFF TOPIC.

Thank you for playing.

Which deflection, the one correcting the crap you're posting about the IRS?

/shrug ALERT it if you have an issue.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye


I agree it's absurd. But it's not really coming from the right. It seems this is the theme of the convention according to the DNC. "Who is Hillary Clinton?"

Maybe they just want to reintroduce her to try to distance her from the negative press she had during the primaries?

You took the words right out of my mouth. Gryphon thinks its absurd that the American people don't know HIllary, but this entire convention is about telling the American people who HIllary is.

Perhaps she could start the reintroduction by actually do a press conference.

And yes Gryphon, the press is overwhelmingly in support of Hillary, but she is still worried she may have to answer the odd difficult question. Why do you think she hasn't done a presser for almost a year?

a reply to: UKTruth

I found it very odd that the national flag was so absent.

The national flag of the US was mostly absent. Other countries flags seemed to be more well represented.

a reply to: Grambler
Oh I think the American people know exactly who she is.....we just haven't gotten a chance to see the newest invention yet.

This woman has been around for over 30 years!!!! And she is always dirty!

a reply to: stosh64

Bernie should have stayed Independent.

I understand Dr. Stein actually offered to "step aside" and let Bernie take over.

Love to see that actually.

a reply to: stosh64

I just don't think the Bernie holdouts are going to make a difference unless something pretty damning to Hillary drops.

It's also worth repeating that the DNC system was rigged against Hillary, in 2008. Her supporters have not forgotten that and, IMO, what they did to Hillary supporters, in 2008, was much worse than what's come out in the first batch of leaked emails.

Also, I am not expecting anything major to come from the next leaks (if there are any). It seems that this leak is going to end up benefitting Hillary and possibly hurting Trump. And the more I hear, the more I am reminded of Trump and Bill Clinton's little chat about Trump's role in the election, before he launched his bid.

Which is it guys ... "we all know how corrupt Clinton is" or "we don't know anything about Clinton"?

Y'all need to get on message.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: stosh64

Bernie should have stayed Independent.

I understand Dr. Stein actually offered to "step aside" and let Bernie take over.

Love to see that actually.

Oh, yeah, I actually read her tweets on that. I just wish Bernie took her up on it.

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: stosh64

Bernie should have stayed Independent.

I understand Dr. Stein actually offered to "step aside" and let Bernie take over.

Love to see that actually.

Oh, yeah, I actually read her tweets on that. I just wish Bernie took her up on it.

Indeed. Bernie, whatever else he is, is a good man.

I hate to see the folks here turning on him ... accusing him of selling out.

Run Independent, Run Green.

Go Bernie.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Which is it guys ... "we all know how corrupt Clinton is" or "we don't know anything about Clinton"?

Y'all need to get on message.

Now wait, you are the one that said it is ridiculous for people to claim we don't know Hillary. When it is pointed out that that is the entire theme of this convention, you have no response. Are you admitting that this theme is a joke then?

I think I do know Hillary, and she is corrupt. However, this doesn't mean she shouldn't do press conferences. We know Obama, and yet he does press conferences. This is because new issues arise, and we want to here his stance on these in his own words.

Hillary wouldn't even take questions on her email scandal, or even current events like terrorsists attacks, etc. What is she worried about?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: stosh64

Bernie should have stayed Independent.

I understand Dr. Stein actually offered to "step aside" and let Bernie take over.

Love to see that actually.

I think it's safest to assume, now, that Bernie is actually loyal to the Democratic Party. Looking back on the primary and at the outcome, under that assumption, puts a new spin on his candidacy.

If he dropped the Democrats when he first started complaining they were favoring Hillary, and ran as a Green Party candidate, he would have broken the 5% vote barrier.

But he didn't, and still his supporters kept insisting he was running as a democrat for some advantage.

Yet, there were no advantages, only disadvantages. So why did he stick with the Democrats?

I think it's safest to assume he willingly played the loser and gave Hillary a reason to 'have to' adopt more leftist spending policies for the sake of 'party unity.'

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Grambler

Here's another thing about the collusion in the DNC. If Hillary needed DWS on the inside to help ensure her being selected as the candidate, they would have had to have been able to be certain to get her in the DNC chair position. That would have meant getting the previous person out. To get someone to move who doesn't want to, you need either a carrot or a stick. Let's see who was the DNC chair right before DWS:

21 Jan 2009 - 5 Apr 2011 Tim Kaine (b. 1958)
5 Apr 2011 - 4 May 2011 Donna Brazile (f) (acting) (b. 1959)
4 May 2011 - Debbie Wasserman Schultz (f) (b. 1966)

Government departments and offices, etc.

Gee, who is Hillary's VP pick?

Star n Flag for you! I would never have thought to research this angle. Good catch!

a reply to: introvert

I think to you the DNC represents the way you wish America looked. I know far too many people who disagree with that perception to believe that even a majority of people see it the same way, let alone America et al.

This morning I got an email from a long time friend. He and his wife had been die hard democrats, liberals to the core, until last night. As he put it in his email: "We really wanted to believe in Hillary, bet we can't. Bernie was our man, but he let us down when he endorsed Clinton."

As much as we have been friends for so many years, the deep political divide between us strained our friendship a bit in recent years. (we were both a bit stubborn in our views) We stand on more common ground now. We still do not share the same ideology. But we agree more than disagree. Though he admitted they will definitely not be voting for Trump, he said with equal emphasis that they will not be voting for Hillary either.

The DNC lost two hard core followers, and the gulf of division between my friends and I has waned to little more than a mud puddle. Life is good.

Every political theme of every political party is "a joke."

And not a good or funny one.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

The Democrats gave him a national stage that he lacked.

He apparently feels that the most important thing here is beating Donald Trump. He's decided that means he folds into the Democratic party and supports Clinton.

We'll see if he's right in November.