Gun store owner: We called FBI before Orlando shooting

originally posted by: ISeekTruth101
a reply to: Boadicea

So if Mateen was listed on the FBI watchlist back in 2012 I can understand him being a possible threat, but the gun store employee I'm assuming was unaware of that. The employee then refused to sell Mateen any amunition because they heard him speak arabic? Isn't Mateen Afghani? Why would he then speak arabic when he isn't arabic?

Do you honestly know when a person speaking a mid east language is speaking arabic, or one of the many others?

Have you ever heard a different language? perhaps the default is to say arabic. and not maybe farsi or any other language..

an American who speaks American English, knowing the difference.. sure we all know that is spot on...

crikey bloke, you drongos are full swing gallahs..strewth, strike a light.

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originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
the FBI's problem is he was a full citizen making legal purchases

I sure don't want to undermine anyone's rights, but it's also just good sense to take reasonable precautions for reasonable risks.

if you should be put under surveillance for buying something, maybe it should be illegal ?

Maybe. Or... if you have been under FBI surveillance for terrorist links and you try buying equipment used in terrorist attacks, maybe the authorities should pay attention.

Exactly, I am so glad you posted this as it saved me the trouble of doing so. and your version is not as spicy as the response I was contemplating posting.

a reply to: Boadicea

Herpa dee derr. Guess I better buy my guns from this retailer.

a reply to: Domo1

Yes. No purchase, no name. Video grainy.

Abell added that they thought the man was "very suspicious," so they called the local FBI office in West Palm Beach and reported the incident. But they didn't have the man's name, since no sale was made, and the only surveillance footage they had was grainy.

ABC news

originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: Gothmog

So through all that "terrible" spelling, ...yet! You grasped my meaning? By the way "guberment" was spelled correctly. .. You seem very "educated" and yet? Unknowing. I'm profoundly happy you decifered my code. There is hope for humanity.

And evidently you just stopped reading on the spelling art
What was that Harry Potter spell name again ? "Riddikulus"
What code ?
And I am learned and educated in many subjects (or so many have said of me.)
But , here goes
Game over and you are all out of tokens

originally posted by: onequestion
I'm sure he has a phone record of some sort?

Absolutely.If owner is telling the truth there will be phone records to back him up.

originally posted by: Boadicea
Speaking in Arabic indicates coordination with other extremists...

Speaking in Arabic is an attempt to draw attention to oneself. He wanted to be noticed. He was building his legend. Next we'll hear how he went to the gun range and deliberately fired on someone else's target to get into an argument.

a reply to: starviego

I can't read the first page of this thread, just comes up black...anyone else have this problem????

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
TOO bad the current POTUS is a traitor allowing them to hit us like this...

originally posted by: starviego

originally posted by: Boadicea
Speaking in Arabic indicates coordination with other extremists...

Speaking in Arabic is an attempt to draw attention to oneself. He wanted to be noticed. He was building his legend. Next we'll hear how he went to the gun range and deliberately fired on someone else's target to get into an argument.

Abell said, the man made a phone call in a foreign language, hung up and then asked about ammunition in bulk.

OP
He was on the phone to someone he was working with.

a reply to: Boadicea

THANKS MUCH for this thread and some wonderful posts in it.

Alas . . . I'm tired enough . . . and at some level seething enough over these facts . . . I don't think I could articulate a kosher, civil post.

I'll just say--THANKS Y'ALL--PLEASE KEEP THE TRUTH FLOWING. It has to at least annoy the traitors and their psychophant stooges.

a reply to: starviego

That's so true! I never even thought about that, but you're so right. That would most definitely draw attention... especially in a firearms shop. The narcissist factor. Wow.

originally posted by: research100
a reply to: starviego

I can't read the first page of this thread, just comes up black...anyone else have this problem????

Really? This thread?

Or a link that was posted?

a reply to: Boadicea

Read the Howell story at LA times. He told the police that he was one of the four trained terrorists by the CIA for Santa Monica gay parade attack. He knew Omar and Danny the two guys supposedly the shooters at the bar Pulse, and said Omar was not supposed to be killed according to the plan. You can't make this story up. And then Google allegedly reported the Florida incident 6 hours before the attack. It was wholly botched fiasco planned and created by the US government.

a reply to: research100

Somebody mentioned Trump, most likely why.

a reply to: Boadicea

He was cleared of both FBI investigations at the urging of the State Department.

originally posted by: groveacc
It was wholly botched fiasco planned and created by the US government.

I suppose his cheering at 9/11 during his high school years was also
"the government'?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

How ludicrous.

ETA: LA Times article, similar title but mentions none of that.

www.latimes.com...

originally posted by: groveacc
a reply to: Boadicea

Read the Howell story at LA times. He told the police that he was one of the four trained terrorists by the CIA for Santa Monica gay parade attack. He knew Omar and Danny the two guys supposedly the shooters at the bar Pulse, and said Omar was not supposed to be killed according to the plan. You can't make this story up. And then Google allegedly reported the Florida incident 6 hours before the attack. It was wholly botched fiasco planned and created by the US government.

Wow. This is eerie. I was literally just reading about that, but at a website called Get Off the BS. It's at the LA Times too?

This is the first I've heard of this website, and it's only a few months old, set up primarily to support Trump. But this is what they say:

The real truth of the story was released to a former Los Angeles County prosecutor who works for Get Off the BS by two Santa Monica police officers that have been issued gag orders under threat of Federal prosecution for talking further talking about the incident.

According to two department sources, Howell called the Santa Monica police on Sunday morning claiming that he needed protection from the CIA. Howell further elaborated to the dispatcher stating that he “had been set up by the CIA – they are going to kill me.”

In summary, it appears that Howell was on his way to “hook up” with another conspirator (Dan) to set off explosives and shoot people at the gay pride parade in Hollywood California on Sunday.

Finding his contact missing when he got to LA and having heard that Omar Matteen had been killed by a FBI SWAT teem in Orlando, Howell determined he had been double crossed by the CIA and feared for his own life.

Heaven help him if true.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Boadicea

He was cleared of both FBI investigations at the urging of the State Department.

Interesting. And very disturbing. But sadly not at all surprising.

originally posted by: groveacc
Read the Howell story at LA times. He told the police that he was one of the four trained terrorists by the CIA for Santa Monica gay parade attack.

Holy smokes! If true, this is dynamite!

This appears to be the source article:

wearechange.org...
.... Howell indicated to officers who first made contact with him that Howell claimed he was one of five people involved in a planned Sunday attack on both the east and west coasts.

wearechange.org...
....When questioned about the other four people involved in the plot, Howell was only familiar with the first names of three of the alleged suspects, naming his contact in LA – Dan and two of the three contacts in Florida, Omar and Brandy.

Remember the story that there was a female confederate who was supposed to be wearing a suicide vest in the club.

wearechange.org...
“We were all familiar with each other through an online fundamental Islamic knowledge seminary course – we were recruited through the course and trained together at a camp in Virginia – we were taught how to shoot and make bombs – everyone knew their part – something went wrong….”

"a camp in Virginia"

I wonder if it's anywhere near Maclean.


The man who runs the on-line course is Muslim leader named Marcus Dwayne Robertson. He's also ex-special forces, ex-con, and "ex" FBI informant.

The connection has been confirmed:

www.foxnews.com...
“It is no coincidence that this happened in Orlando,” said a law enforcement source familiar with Robertson’s history of recruiting terrorists and inciting violence. “Mateen was enrolled in [Robertson’s online] Fundamental Islamic Knowledge Seminary.”

wearechange.org...
Robertson is the founder of the Orlando-based Fundamental Islamic Knowledge Seminary, recently renamed Timbuktu Seminary,... It was opened in 2008, and Robertson then took his Muslim name, Abu Taubah