WA Schools to Teach Gender Identity Curriculum to Kindergarteners

a reply to: Freija

I'm sorry, I just don't think it falls under the purview of fundamental educational skills like math, science and reading that you can teach children at that age to make them more capable of understanding gender related issues at later stages.

Like 9 or 10.

Kindergarden? No. Teach my kid to read. That is fundementally more important to your plight, that they understand properly. I'm sure the experiences you have had,I could not understand, but you probably would have had less of them had there been more people who could think critically and not be pulled in by emotion and demagoguery.

~Tenth

originally posted by: Freija

Just seems like kids are being taught not to make fun of tomboy girls and feminine boys or anyone that doesn't fit the stereotypical binary? Is that so terrible? I think most of the adults here could use these lessons.

Thanks. I don't know what some think is being taught.

Fear does strange things to some people.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

What the hell just happened to teaching our kids to being open minded critical thinkers with the common understanding that all humans are special snowflakes and to not hurt feelings?

Fine she/he/they/cis/me/aliens whatever each get their own class. I want a class about why they need to be sensitive to drug addicts, mentally i'll people, a wheelchair class, a class on PTSD and veterans and uhhh a class on uhhhh who cares it's all freaking stupid.

Teach them to open minded critical thinkers and not to judge their fellow man because they are all different and that's the level of complexity it stops at.

let's make sure everyone knows that schooling was started privately.......at some point the govt. took over.......

the govt. ....unable to arrange education in America, that is.....but must take the reins completely......naww

a reply to: Annee

It has nothing to do with fear it has everything to do with common sense.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Annee

It has nothing to do with fear it has everything to do with common sense.

I don't agree with you.

I think it's very fear based.

a reply to: onequestion

They won't go in depth at a college level when they're in Kindergarten. It will be highly simplified, and it's only one small part of a much larger health curriculum. Do you have equal problems with the other stuff in the health curriculum?

Most parents don't have a clue what their kids do all day in school. They drop them off in the morning and pick them up at the end.

Parents tend to be reactionaries. If they hear something, they react. Otherwise they're pretty much oblivious.

I'm more involved because he's had an IEP since he was 3 for his high functioning autism. I did classroom and playground volunteer.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Teacher - "Hi honey, you have parts on your body that aren't boy or girl parts they are parts that can be boy or girl parts depending on how you feel"

Kid - 'Mommy, I'm scared"

Parent - "It's ok baby, we're all both boys and girls there's no such thing as gender"

a reply to: Annee

Ok let's do an exercise.

I'll pretend I'm 5 years old and I can count to 10 finally, and you explain to me transgender, and gender spectrum.

Class, day 1 -

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: kaylaluv

Teacher - "Hi honey, you have parts on your body that aren't boy or girl parts they are parts that can be boy or girl parts depending on how you feel"

Kid - 'Mommy, I'm scared"

Parent - "It's ok baby, we're all both boys and girls there's no such thing as gender"

No teacher is going to say that.

That's really dumb.

a reply to: onequestion

Okay, so what might this curriculum entail?

How about something along the lines that there are some girls that like to play with trucks and some boys that like to play with dolls. Some girls like to wear their hair short and some boys may want to wear their hair longer. We shouldn't care or make fun of how people express themselves because we're all just people regardless of how we look or act. It seems pretty innocent to me?

This is something I think all children should be exposed to and you can't count on it being done by parents that may be full of their own prejudices and attitudes. Adults are the ones full of homophobia and transphobia and if there weren't transgender children that are already in kindergarten and the first grade, maybe these discussions would be more appropriate for older children? Trans kids are not being hidden away as embarrassing things not to be talked about or stifled and repressed any longer. The sooner that people know and understand this, the better. Chances are very young children are going to encounter trans and gender variant children. Letting them know this is a naturally occurring part of human diversity is not going to damage the minds of children.

originally posted by: WeAre0ne
Freija is an admitted transsexual. Obviously HE supports this.

Ooo! Misgendering. Is that all you got? I'm so crushed.

originally posted by: onequestion
It has nothing to do with fear it has everything to do with common sense.

The things you've said do make common sense and I agree with you. Unfortunately, common sense these days is sorely lacking in some and for those that don't share these progressive attitudes, where are children going to learn this tolerance and acceptance when it doesn't come from home? The "grapevine"? Yeah, that's an accurate source.

a reply to: Annee

Why don't you give me an example of what they are going to say?

a reply to: Freija

We shouldn't care or make fun of how people express themselves because we're all just people regardless of how we look or act. It seems pretty innocent to me?

Why does it have to go beyond that? Please explain that to me?

The things you've said do make common sense and I agree with you. Unfortunately, common sense these days is sorely lacking in some and for those that don't share these progressive attitudes, where are children going to learn this tolerance and acceptance when it doesn't come from home? The "grapevine"? Yeah, that's an accurate source.

This I totally agree with.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Annee

Ok let's do an exercise.

I'll pretend I'm 5 years old and I can count to 10 finally, and you explain to me transgender, and gender spectrum.

Class, day 1 -

I'm not going to reply to stupid.

a reply to: Annee

Of course it's stupid.

No actually I totally agree taking it to this level is stupid.

originally posted by: Freija
a reply to: onequestion

Okay, so what might this curriculum entail?

How about something along the lines that there are some girls that like to play with trucks and some boys that like to play with dolls. Some girls like to wear their hair short and some boys may want to wear their hair longer. We shouldn't care or make fun of how people express themselves because we're all just people regardless of how we look or act. It seems pretty innocent to me?

Yep. Nothing about penises or vaginas. Nothing about sexual reassignment surgeries or hormones or puberty blockers.

And how long would that take to teach? Like 3 minutes? Maybe add some pictures of kids for them to look at - that would add another couple of minutes. How awful is that - really?

Sitting in a MCD Play Place.

There are some parents here I wish cared more what their kids are doing.

a reply to: Abysha

Starred.