U.S. Gives Sweeping Guidance to Schools on Transgender Students

a reply to: xuenchen

It is being forced bc there are bad people out there, people in office in charge of decision making that want to discriminate against transgenders.

I'm proud of Obama for acting against discrimination and quickly.

There was no problem to begin with, why are we making this an issue today? We have other issues we need to put our heads together on, not this non-issue.

What is wrong with people today

More reason why parents should remove their children from public schools.

Look.. my kid is 14 and going into 10th grade. I pay attention to the school system. What is see is a HUGE lack of caring, or concern for kids who have trouble grasping the material. They push these kids through the system. There is no more "oh if you do bad you are going to get left back". That doesn't happen. My kid is failing algebra and no matter how much I help him, or plead with the school to help him, they don't care. And it won't stop him from graduating. So now he gets to move on to even harder subject matter without understanding the previous years... And it's like this across the country. Then they throw a bunch of standardized tests at them for no reason, adding more pressure to these kids. They go to school for 7 hours a day, are taught nothing, get an additional 3-4 hours worth of homework thrown at them. Etc etc etc.

And yet what is the BIGGEST concern today? BATHROOM RIGHTS. Are you f'ing kidding me?

Here is my problem with this "trans gender" thing going on right now. If your a guy and want to be a girl, that's fine... none of my business. But if your doing it right, no one should even bat an eyelash if you want to use the lady's room. This issue is not for TRUE transgender people. This issue is brought out because of the SJW "special snowflake" .. "I'm oppressed" people who think its the cool thing right now to be "non-binary transgendered social justice happy orange space people". THAT is what this is about. And it's pathetic.

Our priorities in this country are all screwed up.

a reply to: veracity

Good for you.

And remember all these forced guidelines by the government also throws all the LGBTQ privacy right out the window.

In order to enforce, everybody's "gender" must be known in order for everybody to apply the guidelines.

Obama LLC is using the Hegelian Dialectic system to strip rights away and eliminate specific privacies.

a reply to: xuenchen

paranoid?

most people see it as he is just protecting minorities from discrimination, no more no less.

a reply to: veracity

Don't be so quick and willing to drink the Obama Koolaid.

The end result may not be what you think it should be.

a reply to: xuenchen

its obvious you may be watching a little too much fox news

a reply to: xuenchen

Well, so far, I know Texas has basically told them to keep the money. Don't know a lot about the Texas governor, but that's a good stance! I'd like to see forty-nine more states follow suit. Get the feds out of the schools entirely. In Texas, the governor stated that it's the free and reduced price lunches that they'd lose, so the White House is trying to punish poor students, effectively, with this illegal ultimatum.

.....and people ask why we home school.....

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

I find it less than acceptable that Women weren't asked if they felt comfortable with it. I actually find it hard to believe anyone in 'the high tower' would find this 'Normal' or that most of the population would say 'Ok what a great idea wow, why didn't we think of this'??? 'i jest'.

A high majority of people in power are Corrupt. And people with common sense don't have to be told this is a bad idea, that's what Intuition is for but it would seem, strangely, a few snowflakes are lacking that natural human ability.

I think it's evil that anyone that disgusting and sick as in the NC legislature/gov would be given a job in any kind of high position, but the PC crowd would cry foul whine bt'ch and scream about it along with all the other bad ideas they push on mass populations as 'Normal'. It's not Normal to expect anyone to accept that which is contrary to what most of us think, let alone to expect children to think as though they were adults.

It's a Sick Sick World...

The biggest crime committed by transvestites is Male fraud.

Of course we weren't asked.....

Daniel 11:37 - "Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all."

That phrase can have more than one meaning, it seems.

originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: Annee

Again, Annie... You're trying to convince us that your Beliefs and Ideals Trump Ours, including Xianity, Muslimanity and every other Religion and Non Religion who disagrees?

Good Luck with that!

Your rights end where mine begin. If you want to be religious, do it in church. If you want to be conservative, do it in the voting booth. It's so wrong to force your beliefs on others whose beliefs are different.

"I don't believe transgender is a thing. You have to piss in the men's room, even though you feel and live your life as a woman."
"I don't believe in birth control, so YOU can't have it."
"I believe the fetuses life is more sacred than the woman's, so I'm going to let you die if you come to my Catholic Hospital."

Forcing your BELIEFS on other people is not religious freedom. True freedom is: you are free do live your life as you see fit, and others are free to live their lives as they seem fit. You don't have to like opposing views, but you really should try to respect them.

If you want to be the opposite sex, do it at home. You don't have the right to force others to agree with your desires.

If you don't like religion, don't discuss it. You don't have the right to demand no one else does anywhere but a church.

If you want birth control, pay for it yourself. You h ave no right to force someone else to foot the bill.

Every point you made shows a complete lack of respect for the rights of others.

But ... but ... the really important thing ... will they still be able to run and hide in their safe zone of choice? Maybe we should just have different safe zones in the schools instead of classrooms for all of the disenfranchised people so they could feel safe?

In my day and age, we called it segregation but hey ... it's "different" this time don't you know? Because the government supports it ... just like last time ... and the people are demanding it ... just like last time ... oh wait ... I don't think we are supposed to notice that are we?

a reply to: xuenchen

So, from now on everyone needs to carry their birth certificate on them in order to use a public restroom? Isn't that what you are saying? Because, to me it would appear that the person in the top picture would use the ladies room and the person in the bottom picture would use the men's room. Of course, I am guessing based on their outward appearance what sex they probably identify themselves as. And I don't find it necessary to have them show me what they have in their pants or show me their birth certificate before using the public toilet.

Why is this an issue again? I'm still not sure. Go to the toilet, close the door and do your business in private, wash your hands and leave. Just like it's been done for always.

a reply to: Raggedyman

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
a reply to: SoulSurfer
California Man Dressed as Woman Busted for Videoing in Ladies Bathroom

A Palmdale, California, man wearing women’s clothing was arrested in a Lancaster Macy’s store after he was seen in a women’s bathroom. The man was allegedly videotaping women in the bathroom. Source

This jerk was a predator, not a transgendered person. Do you understand the difference?

originally posted by: toolgal462
So, from now on everyone needs to carry their birth certificate on them in order to use a public restroom? Isn't that what you are saying? Because, to me it would appear that the person in the top picture would use the ladies room and the person in the bottom picture would use the men's room. Of course, I am guessing based on their outward appearance what sex they probably identify themselves as. And I don't find it necessary to have them show me what they have in their pants or show me their birth certificate before using the public toilet.

Why is this an issue again? I'm still not sure. Go to the toilet, close the door and do your business in private, wash your hands and leave. Just like it's been done for always.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Well toolgal, that's a very valid and reasonable point.

I am not really n favor of gay marriage, evidently the population is in favor of gay marriage so I will accept the will of the many.

This issue is about a small minority dictating to the greater, I guess we are programmed to accept that

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: xuenchen

Well, so far, I know Texas has basically told them to keep the money.

One person speaks for Texas?

One person spoke for NC. How's that going?

a reply to: toolgal462

There really is no way to enforce this. They would have to take all the cops off the streets and put them in bathrooms to check birth certificates, lofl, and I guess if you don't carry it, then you can't go to the bathroom? Lofl, clearly not thought thru too clearly...just gotta get that hate and discrimination out there brewing bc some people are so miserable and they have to try and bring everyone down with them.

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: toolgal462

There really is no way to enforce this. They would have to take all the cops off the streets and put them in bathrooms to check birth certificates, lofl, and I guess if you don't carry it, then you can't go to the bathroom? Lofl, clearly not thought thru too clearly...just gotta get that hate and discrimination out there brewing bc some people are so miserable and they have to try and bring everyone down with them.

NC police dept. said "No Way" - - we don't have time for this.

@LadyGreenEyes

If you want to be the opposite sex, do it at home. You don't have the right to force others to agree with your desires.

If you don't like religion, don't discuss it. You don't have the right to demand no one else does anywhere but a church.

If you want birth control, pay for it yourself. You h ave no right to force someone else to foot the bill.

Every point you made shows a complete lack of respect for the rights of others.

If someone else chooses to live their lives by values other than your arbitrary values...it's THEIR freedom to do it. It has no bearing on your freedom.

If they choose to live as an opposite sex, they shouldn't have to hole themselves up in their home just because you don't like with it.
If you want to be religious, fine. You want to prosthelytize? Fine. But that doesn't mean other people have to live by your beliefs. You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree with it. But everyone should have the freedom to make their own decisions over their own lives.
If I go to a DOCTOR for birth control, I should be able to get birth control. And my insurance should cover it. If someone else doesn't 'believe' in birth control that should have zero effect on me- and that includes the doctor. If they are that religious that their faith is making determinations on my health, they need to find a new line of work.

I think you're getting my 'complete lack of respect' confused with your 'my way or the highway' attitude. News flash: the rest of the world doesn't have to live their lives according to your made up rules.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: xuenchen

Well, so far, I know Texas has basically told them to keep the money.

One person speaks for Texas?

One person spoke for NC. How's that going?

Lots of people speak for both, and agree with the statements made. Far more people stand for decency in these places than stand for perversions.

originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
If someone else chooses to live their lives by values other than your arbitrary values...it's THEIR freedom to do it. It has no bearing on your freedom./quote]

Likewise, if some one wants to live by Christian values, YOU have no right to demand they restrict that to churches only. Hypocritical much?

originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
If they choose to live as an opposite sex, they shouldn't have to hole themselves up in their home just because you don't like with it.

They need psychiatric treatment, not special bathroom privileges.

originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
If you want to be religious, fine. You want to prosthelytize? Fine. But that doesn't mean other people have to live by your beliefs. You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree with it. But everyone should have the freedom to make their own decisions over their own lives.

You are the one who stated that people have to keep their religious beliefs private, or to churches only.

originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
If I go to a DOCTOR for birth control, I should be able to get birth control. And my insurance should cover it.

Be honest here. "Birth control" isn't the issue; abortifacients are the issue.

originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
I think you're getting my 'complete lack of respect' confused with your 'my way or the highway' attitude. News flash: the rest of the world doesn't have to live their lives according to your made up rules.

No, that's YOUR attitude. YOU claimed that religious people needed to stay in churches. News flash - you don't get to decide what others believe, or where they can believe it.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: xuenchen

Well, so far, I know Texas has basically told them to keep the money. Don't know a lot about the Texas governor, but that's a good stance! I'd like to see forty-nine more states follow suit. Get the feds out of the schools entirely. In Texas, the governor stated that it's the free and reduced price lunches that they'd lose, so the White House is trying to punish poor students, effectively, with this illegal ultimatum.

.....and people ask why we home school.....

No.

www.newswest9.com...

MARFA, TX (KWES) -
The Marfa Independent School District is taking a step to better accommodate their students. It all started this past year when their only transgender student voiced his concerns about their restroom situation.

"He wants his privacy and he's like, 'I don't want to cause a ruckus. I just want to feel safe,''" said Marfa ISD superintendent Andrew Peters.

Peters said the district has had gender neutral private restrooms since the schools were built in the 1960's, but the high school does not have that option for transgender students.

"I want us to be sending the message that we care about everybody and their privacy and their rights to be able to use the facilities comfortably," said Peters.

The transgender student currently has to go to another building to use the restroom. Peters came up with a simple solution. The school will convert a small men's restroom to a private bathroom with a lock. The restroom will be available to everyone next school year.

Peters said the idea was not meant to be controversial.

"We are just trying to provide for the kids needs of our school. I think other schools could do the same," said Peters. "I think it could save them a lot of headaches."