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I just disagree that the right way to treat a mental illness is to alter the body to match the delusion. I would in fact...call it criminal.
I would think that once the problem is identified, there could be a cure or a procedure that could be done during pregnancy to avoid a child being born like that.
This part of the problem is a mental illness which I also think is part of the transgender in general.
In general...if everyone would keep their opinions, views and beliefs to themselves we wouldn't have as many of these problems
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: Gryphon66
No, not every reputable medical professional agrees with you. Many disagree, and have stated so. The old game of calling any who disagree "not reputable, or "hateful" or phobic" or whatever shows a lack of willingness to discuss the actual issues. When you must resort to labeling the opposition, that shows a weakness in your argument. It's a basic logic fallacy.
One need not hate a person to understand that he person has a mental issue that needs treatment, instead of enabling.
A CNN/ORC poll released Monday found a majority of Americans (57 percent) don't agree with bathroom bills like the one North Carolina is defending that restrict where transgender people can use the bathroom, while 38 percent do.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Who does "the guy" work for again?
What are his credentials?
What is his agenda?
Since when do we as a society depend on what one person thinks to inform public policy?
GenderTrender
I’m a post-op MtF who is back in therapy to reverse this mess and obtain a phalloplasty
November 1, 2013
Guest Post from Gregory:
I have tragically come to realize my story is fairly typical of most MtF persons. I was molested by my “trusting” grandfather at age 3, father was killed at age 5 and while my mother remarried; you could essentially say I grew up without a “father figure” or role model. By 10 or 13 years old; the gender confusion had begun. Only I didn’t know its origins. I was frequenting the gay neighborhoods by 16; assuming this emptiness and sexual craving was a signal of who I was. But, it wasn’t gratifying; and always left me disgusted. By 25, I was cross dressing in earnest. Buy, purge, buy, purge this repetitive cycle of self hatred continued unabated. For the next 15 years I was married and divorced twice. The root of the failures I believe some bent up anger and feeling of inadequacy stemming from a childhood I had no control over.
By my late thirties, this feeling of a “feminine core” continued. It led me to purchase online and experiment with Estrogen and an Anti-Androgen. My body slowly started to feminize. I dieted and exercised feverishly and got my body down to an acceptable female weight. I felt great; this must be who I am?
I remarried again in my early forties to a wonderful woman. Yet, the programming in my mind was so scrambled by then that it was difficult to differentiate between reality and fantasy. By the time I started seeing a gender therapist and a surgeon they were as convinced as I was that I was female.
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The first six months post-op SRS were wonderful. By the eight month, things were changing. Now my interest was finding out how to end my life. That is called REGRET. How long it takes you to come to this point is subjective; probably once the excitement wears off. You realize this was completely wrong. You have destroyed everything in your path to get it done and no-one in the medical community will stop you. How can they? You lied to yourself for so long. Fooling them was the easy part. Or did they even care? “When would you like your next appointment?”
The recently published WPATH Version VII has simply allowed the medical community to open the “floodgates” for this very tragedy to unfold. To get on cross gender hormones and then have surgery has become almost as simple as going to the convenience store for a pack of gum. If the client wants it, give it to them. “Real Life Test”? Maybe, maybe not, depending on your circumstances, occupation, etc. It is a billion dollar industry that thrives on your illness.
Get help. Don’t mutilate your body. The psychiatrist, psychologists, and surgeons will enjoy a wonderful life. You, however, could end up with a tortured life, ending up penniless, possibly unemployed, without family or friends and maybe even homeless. And that’s if you haven’t tried or committed suicide by then! All so you can become the girl you “think” you are inside and wanted to be! People, God or whatever you believe in made you in the correct gender. It is encoded in your very DNA. If you think differently, get real help; but, DON”T CHANGE IT.
Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden
Cecilia Dhejne,
Paul Lichtenstein,
Marcus Boman,
Anna L. V. Johansson,
Niklas Långström,
Mikael Landén
PLOS
Published: February 22, 2011
dx.doi.org...
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Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
GenderTrender
Men Love The Ladies Restroom- Transgender Edition
May 28, 2011
Transgender Activists always dismiss the realistic concerns that women have about allowing males into spaces that are sex segregated for female privacy from male predators. Such as restrooms, locker rooms, showers, hospital bed assignments, jail cells, homeless shelters, rape crisis centers, etc. These activists deny and disregard the real threat to females by males, even males who want to dress in feminine clothes or who “feel like women inside” or who have a psychiatric disorder that causes them to claim they are actually female, even though they are male. These men do not give a # about the actual people they want to minstrelize and dress up as and mimic. They not only deny that we are oppressed because of our sex, they claim our sex doesn’t even exist! But they do more than deny female reality and make kooky claims: They are using the political capital of Lesbians and Gays to pass laws enforcing their male-centric female-phobic sexist views. “Gender Identity Protections” are laws that eliminate sex-based protections for females.
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Politics
Drop The T From LGBT
Transgender people have high rates of psychological problems that contribute to their identity expression and victimization. The rest of the LGBT crowd should consider how that reflects on them.
The post-marriage culture war is asymmetrical in the group known as LGBT. Gay, lesbian, and bisexual activists have carried the rainbow banner for transgenders for issues that truly matter, such as employment and housing. Now the time has come for a genuine sanity check for them to stop enabling kookier parts of the trans agenda.
The current bathroom policy debate illuminates the growing gap between the concerns of the transgender community and of the LGB community. Perhaps those who favor gay marriage do not want any part of enabling pedophiles in wigs having easier access to kids in bathrooms.
Trans activists paint the entire LGBT group in an unsympathetic light when they lobby for laws to criminalize such trivialities as misusing pronouns, as passed recently in New York City. Practical LGB members might want to take this opportunity to disentangle themselves from the lunacy of today’s trans-rights movement. This will disassociate their movement in the public eye from people whom research shows have high incidents of psychological disorders linked with their transgender expression, and offers an opportunity to protect transgender people from being exploited by high-priced medical quacks.
The differences between the groups now seem glaring. Let’s list a few.
Difference 1: Same-Sex Attraction vs. Gender Perception
Many transgenders are not homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual. Unlike people who identify as LGB, transgenders suffer from self-deception disorders (gender dysphoria). They are convinced that they are in the wrong body, and with the help of enablers and affirmers of their delusion, undergo drastic body-mutilating surgeries to enhance the deception and deny the plain and simple truth of their gender. While some LGB people may be transgender, too, the majority are not.
Difference 2: Bathroom Access
The transgender public restroom issue, a hot topic in the news today, is exclusively a transgender cause not shared by those who are lesbian, gay, or bisexual. Transgender bills being debated at the state and local levels exclusively address gender identity and have nothing to do with sexual preference. This includes bills to legally change one’s gender marker on one’s birth certificate without surgically altering the appearance of one’s genitals. It also includes bills to allow any man to use women’s public restrooms and locker rooms if he says he feels like a woman—no surgery or birth-record change required.
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originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: Gryphon66
No, I am not playing the game where one side calls names, then claims the other side is hateful and divisive. If that's what you post, expect no replies.
If you want to discuss facts, instead of emotions, then we can talk.
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
I'll try to make this short and sweet. Tell me for a fact, the reason and purpose for the transgender "condition". What causes it exactly?
As you know...no one has an answer. No Doctor, no scientist, etc.
Since you can't honestly answer that question is a problem for your argument. You take the position that you are right. That you have the answers and know what is right and what is wrong. But you can't because no one knows the answer. My claim of mental illness is just a valid, therefore, as any claim you make as to why transgender exists. But you don't even make a claim. You just act like "it just is". Talk about non-scientific and not based in fact!!!!
Taking the entire breadth of the findings uncovered by my research, it appears that there is more than sufficient evidence that transgender persons either have a serious hormonal-based birth defect, have been exposed to exogenous chemicals which have impacted their gender development in the womb, have a genetic karyotype which differs from the general population, or via some other process have a brain structure which is different than would be indicated by their chromosomes. While no single study presents proof beyond any shadow of a doubt or with metaphysical certainty, taken together they do present a preponderance of evidence such that one can say with confidence that transgender individuals have a congenital gene-based difference from cissexual individuals. Link
You are welcome to your opinions but while you state you would like to "educate" others, all you are spreading is your religion of the "don't know where it came from but it is real" transgender lies.
All anyone knows for sure is that some people feel like the opposite sex. Summed up nicely huh??? They aren't physically different, they aren't a third gender and they aren't a woman in a man's body or anything else. Their mind simply thinks they are. And THAT is what needs to be addressed.
Your support of freak surgery while calling yourself some kind of expert is also criminal. Telling others what is right and wrong when neither you nor I have an answer...and neither does science. I call my view an opinion...you call it ignorant because it doesn't match YOUR opinion.
At least I'm not telling other people to mutilate their bodies while at the same time knowing that they will likely still have the same problem...and wish themselves dead (ie. suicide).
general population rates for suicidality are around 1.6% in the United States. Then they note that suicidality rates for post-op transsexual people are about 4.1%. They then claim that since this is “hundreds of percent higher” that surgery does not work.
But let’s talk about the reality. What is that reality? It is that the pre-op suicidality rate for transsexuals is 41%!!!
Yep, that’s right. Pre-op rates of suicidality for transsexuals are 1000% higher than post-op rates
If you think that is a good pedestal to stand upon...please do so alone.
Cross-dresser arrested in bath house
Nov. 27, 2003 at 9:06 AM
MATSUYAMA, Japan, Nov. 27 (UPI) -- Japanese police have arrested a man who dressed as a woman so he could enter public bath houses and watch naked women, Mainichi News said Thursday.
Police in Matsuyama charged 33-year-old Eichi Yamamoto with 17 counts of illegally entering buildings and peeping for his activities that began in April.
"I wanted to see women naked," he was quoted as telling investigators. "Dressing up as a woman was a step to do that."
Police said Yamamoto dressed up as a woman and entered a bath Wednesday and began staring at naked women as he soaked in the water.
However, other people in the bath became suspicious because of the way he walked, and alerted a worker. He was nabbed in the changing rooms of the bath.
Yamamoto has no chest or leg hair, police said. When he entered the facilities, he reportedly wore a wig of long hair, a white blouse, a gray skirt, a bra, and put on lipstick.
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Man accused of impersonating cheerleader to undergo mental evaluation
By Joe Napsha | Friday, Sept. 24, 2004
A Greensburg man accused of stealing women's identities and entering a Greensburg Salem girls' locker room dressed as a woman will undergo a mental health evaluation before he faces a criminal hearing.
A preliminary hearing for 48-year-old Kelly Dawn Hullenbaugh, also known as Robert Domasky, was postponed from Thursday until Nov. 18 to allow for the evaluation, District Justice James Albert of Greensburg said yesterday after granting a continuance.
Greensburg police initially charged Hullenbaugh, of 213 E. Otterman St., Apt. B, on Sept. 3 with trespassing, identity theft and giving officers a false identification. He was arrested after he allegedly went into the girls locker room at Greensburg Salem High School, purportedly to have the cheerleaders' coach teach him cheers.
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Hong Kong transvestite caught in nurses' washroom is jailed
By dpa news Oct 3, 2007 in Crime
A transvestite man caught dressed as a nurse in the female washroom at a Hong Kong public hospital has been jailed, a news report said Thursday.
Chung Kai-lun, 29, was found wearing women's clothes and a surgical mask in the hospital toilet less than a year after being given a suspended sentence for dressing as a schoolgirl in a school canteen.
Chung, who told the court he considered himself a woman but could not afford a sex change, was arrested after a woman dentist at Hong Kong's Princess Margaret Hospital came out of a cubicle to find him standing next to her.
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At a hearing in Hong Kong's Kowloon City court Wednesday, Chung was jailed for three months for loitering and for breaching a suspended sentence imposed for when he was caught dressed as a schoolgirl last year. dpa hp pw
originally posted by: Annee
Got anything, maybe in the last 10 years?
Rome man arrested in women’s bathroom at Calhoun Walmart
Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:00 am
Calhoun Times
Editors note: This arrest was reported on March 24, 2010.
A Rome man was released on bond after being arrested for allegedly taking his clothes off in front of children in the women’s restroom of Walmart in Calhoun.
Norwood Smith Burnes, 51, of 2 Leland Ave., Rome was charged with public indecency, disorderly conduct, and criminal trespass on Sunday and released later that day.
According to the police report filed by the Calhoun Police Department:
According to witnesses, Burnes was found in “stages of undress while on the stone floor and would do this in the presence of several young children.”
Police officers arrived to find Burnes wearing a dark woman’s suit including a short skirt and jacket, black leather coat, black high heals, red nail polish, green eye shadow and women’s jewelry. According to the witness, Burnes had been in the women’s section of the store with his skirt “kicked up showing his white girdle and dark thong underwear.”
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originally posted by: Annee
This is an evolving science.
Teen Coerced Into Food Court Bathroom for Sex: Cops
A special needs teen reports being lured into bathroom. Police file charges.
A 15-year-old male special education student reported being coerced into a shopping mall food court for a sexual encounter.
Police said Isaiah Johnson, 20, of Stamford, and “two other males dressed as females in the area of Veteran’s Park Bus stop” coerced the teenage boy into the bathroom of the food court of the Stamford mall on April 26, where a sexual encounter took place.
The next day, the student told a school administrator, who reported the incident.
Stamford police charged Johnson with second-degree sexual assault, second-degree unlawful restraint and risk of injury to a minor.
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Police: Man in bra and wig found in women's bathroom
by KOMO 4 Staff Updated 8:27 pm, Friday, March 16, 2012
EVERETT, Wash. - A man wearing a bra and wig was arrested Friday after he was spotted in a women's bathroom at Everett Community College, police said.
Officers responded to the scene at about 1:30 p.m. after a college staff member said she saw the man go into the women's rest room and alerted security personnel.
An investigation found that the suspect had gone into the rest room while two women were inside, according to a police report. The women were later interviewed and said they had no idea that the man was there.
When police interviewed the man, he claimed that he had gone into the bathroom to use the facilities.
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He admitted to officers that he was the suspect in an earlier voyeurism incident at Everett Community College on Monday, police said.
In the earlier incident, he said he took a shower in the girls' locker room for sexual gratification, according to the police report.
Man, Dressed as Woman, Charged With Sexually Assaulting of Boy
By David Chang and Vince Lattanzio
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A Camden County man, who dresses as a woman, has been charged with sexually assaulting a boy.
Levandus Gacutan, 22, of Lindenwold, N.J., is charged with Aggravated Sexual Assault, Endangering the Welfare of a Child and Prostitution Involving a Minor, according to Camden County Metro Police.
Police say Gacutan sexually assaulted a 12-year-old boy near the corner of Westfield Avenue and Church Street around 10:30 p.m. on Friday in East Camden, N.J.
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Crossdresser cabbie convicted of rape
02:02, 20 Apr 2010
Updated 23:43, 12 Jan 2013
By Manchester Evening News
A TRANSVESTITE taxi driver faces a prison term after he was convicted of raping a drunken woman in the back of his car. Qasim Anwar, 30, carried out the attack dressed in make-up, a wig, women's clothing and high heels, Manchester Crown Court was told. A jury heard the victim had drunk so much she was virtually `comatose' and Anwar filmed the attack on his phone.
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The father-of-two, known in the gay village as Layla, pleaded not guilty claiming the woman was an eager participant who had led him on by kissing him.
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Hunt for the man in the black bikini
Date
February 17, 2012
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A man wearing a black bikini, purple skirt and high heels allegedly indecently assaulted a teenage boy on a Sydney train, police say.
The boy, 17, and a friend were on a train from Newtown to Redfern about 6pm yesterday when the man allegedly made offensive comments before indecently assaulting the boy.
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The teenagers left the train at Redfern and told police what happened.
They described the man as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander in appearance, about 1.85 metres tall, in his late 20s or early 30s and with a medium build.
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originally posted by: MorganMorgan
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
How is the privacy being taken away? America is a glorious country, run by the people, for the people. But how is your privacy being taken away? A transgender is going to the bathroom in you school, or the school of your kid? I resent you, in that case. Just let them pee, or defecate. Put your mind to more important issues. There are plenty.