Caitlyn Jenner considering ‘de-transitioning’ ‘in the next couple years,’ author claims

originally posted by: TheBulk
Right, it's a mental illness. Mentally ill people do mentally ill things.

According to Research its not a mental illness. And Heres a thought. GET YOUR INFO FROM THE HORSES MOUTH NEXT TIME. Apparently this is most likely BS.

a reply to: onequestion I hear Conor and Mayweather is in the works,,,whats going to happen ? Oh back on subject, did Bruce de schlong himself cause if he did, he is done with the ladies ?

a reply to: Wardaddy454

Some don't stick with it, some do. Ignore it for a while and sometimes it goes away. Sometimes it doesn't go away. It's when they threaten to cut off their body part with scissors, or when they say they want to go back up to heaven and not live anymore that you kind of have to not ignore it anymore. It's when they are in so much despair that they refuse to eat or play or interact with anyone, that you have to start paying attention.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Boadicea

You don't seem to understand how gender dysphoria works. It's the kids themselves who are telling the parents how they feel. It's not the parents telling the kids they must be a girl if they want to wear dresses and change their name from Jake to Jenny.

Hmmm... My vocabulary does not rise to level of my thoughts, so forgive me if I sound like I'm playing semantics or parsing words, I really don't mean to. I understand that a child's ability to understand many things -- both simple and complex -- is based on a limited understanding of those things, based on both nature and nurture. I understand that parents and other family members, caretakers, TV, etc., all contribute to their understanding and misunderstanding of pretty much everything. I understand that every child most needs unconditional love and acceptance -- just as they are -- and to grow into an adult who loves and accepts themselves. And I understand that we live in a world in which people are always judging, preaching and demanding that others live up to their idea of who they should be. It is impossible to discount the influence and impact of others on children and their understanding of themselves and pretty much everything.

I also understand that most of us are not so easily labeled and put into a box. We come in all sorts of sizes, shapes and colors and variations thereof. And it's all good.

The kids are saying it, and they are saying it without any prompting from anyone, as young as age 2 or 3. Many of these children have never watched TV or been exposed to society's expectation of them. It's some kind of innate awareness that they have on their own.

All children are influenced by external factors and people to one extent or another. But I would honestly be more inclined to believe they are being influenced by karmic memories of a life (or lives) as a different gender, than I would be to believe that they decided they were the opposite gender all by their lonesomes. In order to do so, they must have a frame of reference.

The parents usually ignore it at this point, assuming it's just some kind of phase. Sometimes it is, but other times, the child just keeps insisting. Then the child gets upset if they are not referred to as the gender they identify with. The parents aren't doing it. The kids are doing it all on their own.

It's impossible to quantify the influence of the parents (and other factors). Parents are a child's first and primary teacher. Even in terms of how they process facts and informations, bearing on the conclusions they reach. Kids don't do anything all on their own.

When the child starts to complain to the parents that they want their "boy parts" to fall off so they can be the girl they know they are, what is the parent supposed to say to that? It does no good to tell the child that their parts are fine the way they are. The child does not feel this way. It does no good to ignore it either, as these kids tend to get more upset and depressed to the point of not functioning normally as children anymore.

You tell the kid that there are advantages and disadvantages to being a boy or a girl... you explain that it just seems as though the grass is greener on the other side... you help them understand that life is always going to present challenges and situations that we don't like... and that nothing is perfect, so we do the best we can with what we have.

And most important of all, you tell them and show them that they are loved and liked and accepted just the way they are. No changes or improvements necessary.

He denied he was transitioning when he was, so why wouldn't he deny he was transitioning back?

We will see in a couple years,

I have watched the show, he is still attracted to women, but I notice his trans friends like to encourage him to go for a man, they are making him more confused,

“autogynephilia”—from gynephilia (attracted to women) and auto (in the form of oneself).

originally posted by: MEDIKATED
a reply to: onequestion I hear Conor and Mayweather is in the works,,,whats going to happen ? Oh back on subject, did Bruce de schlong himself cause if he did, he is done with the ladies ?

No. He has not.

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: kaylaluv

I'm sure when the time is right monetarily, Jenner will write her/his story.

Why shouldn't Jenner take this opportunity to transition publicly telling his story and getting paid for it.

She should do it for poverty?

What I'm saying, Annee, is when the whole Jenner/Kardashian infatuation by the public begins to wind down and their story gets stale and stops making the millions it currently generates, Jenner will "decide" it is time to write that book and stir up the interest in their story once again. Right now, they're okay. The $$$$$$$ is rolling in. At some point the pop culture fanatics will lose interest and those $$$ will begin to diminish.......THEN the time for his/her tell all book will get written.

I don't think many people realize that Bruce is the producer of The Kardashians

a reply to: mobiusmale

further proof this kind of practice is majority of the time resulting from mental illness.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
He denied he was transitioning when he was, so why wouldn't he deny he was transitioning back?

We will see in a couple years,

I have watched the show, he is still attracted to women, but I notice his trans friends like to encourage him to go for a man, they are making him more confused,

“autogynephilia”—from gynephilia (attracted to women) and auto (in the form of oneself).

Can you imagine this poor man/woman's psychological dilemma? He desires a straight woman, but what straight woman is turned on by a transgender woman with a penis and C-cup boobs? No wonder he/she is having trouble finding a meaningful relationship. I feel sadness for him/her.

She'll get an addadicktomy operation.

originally posted by: Boadicea


You tell the kid that there are advantages and disadvantages to being a boy or a girl... you explain that it just seems as though the grass is greener on the other side... you help them understand that life is always going to present challenges and situations that we don't like... and that nothing is perfect, so we do the best we can with what we have.

And most important of all, you tell them and show them that they are loved and liked and accepted just the way they are. No changes or improvements necessary.

And what if that doesn't resolve the issue? Do you honestly think no parent of a trans child has ever tried that? Do you know that some trans teens have killed themselves because their parents did and said the very thing you suggest?

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: mobiusmale

further proof this kind of practice is majority of the time resulting from mental illness.

It's not a mental illness.

Go look it up. I get tired of explaining.

a reply to: Annee

Behavioral and mental health experts once thought homosexuality was a mental illness.

Sometimes the "experts" get things wrong and somewhere down the line, the evaluation changes. Best not to put 100% faith in "the studies" and "the mental health experts".

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: mobiusmale

It indicates a deep unhappiness with the self in general, not necessarily with any one part of it. Of course, if you were living with the Kardashian harpies, I imagine that would tend to engender a deep dissatisfaction with life, the universe, and everything in it.

He was on hormones and had breast when he first met her, stopped them got married and had a couple more kids.

a reply to: Annee

I know people like to create funny named ''syndromes'' and mental states so everything fits in a nice little box that can be explained with theoretical idea's.

But the human body is made a very specific way for the concept of creation. There are a few very very very rare and unique cases where nature probably got it wrong ( and im talking extremely rare )

But when people like Bruce Jenner decide on a whim they want to be the opposite sex than go through with all kinds of chemical transitions and operations.. its a mental illness plain and simple.

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
He denied he was transitioning when he was, so why wouldn't he deny he was transitioning back?

We will see in a couple years,

I have watched the show, he is still attracted to women, but I notice his trans friends like to encourage him to go for a man, they are making him more confused,

“autogynephilia”—from gynephilia (attracted to women) and auto (in the form of oneself).

Can you imagine this poor man/woman's psychological dilemma? He desires a straight woman, but what straight woman is turned on by a transgender woman with a penis and C-cup boobs? No wonder he/she is having trouble finding a meaningful relationship. I feel sadness for him/her.

I think it is a complicated issue and reassignment surgery should be the last resort, many regret it , many commit suicide , many re-transition, I think the medical community is doing a disservice to these people.

Transgender Woman Now Transitioning into a Dragon

Read more at: www.nationalreview.com...

“Eva Tiamat Baphomet Medusa" identifies as a "mythical beast." A male-to-female transgender woman who prefers the pronoun “it” says it believes it was born not only the wrong sex, but also the wrong species, and has been undergoing human-to-dragon transition procedures to fix the problem.

Let's see, should a surgeon really cut a persons nose and ears off?

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: mobiusmale

further proof this kind of practice is majority of the time resulting from mental illness.

It's truly not a mental illness. Think of it as a trick nature played on a person. Step aside from your adamancy for a minute, and consider another possibility.

A person who is intelligent, determined, brave, and has means, is able to undo it.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Sorry - I dont agree.

In very very very rare cases yes, the sexual organs created on the body were wrong due to what ever scientific reason.

However, the people running around with perfectly healthy bodies with emotional problems who want to be the opposite sex should look at mental health solutions. Having operations and changing your bodies natural chemical balance because your emotional and think you'd be happier being the opposite sex is a mental illness.

I have met people who were in the year waiting period before doctors would proceed with operations to change sex.. they were all a little mentally unbalanced one way or another and almost all of them regretted it afterwards because it was an emotional / mental state they were in when they made the decision.

To think we understand nature so well to the point we can see where its wrong or right is very ignorant. We (compared to nature) are stupid!

a reply to: Stormdancer777

I think it is a complicated issue and reassignment surgery should be the last resort, many regret it , many commit suicide , many re-transition, I think the medical community is doing a disservice to these people.

Bear in mind it's not a matter of what anybody else thinks. It's a private, personal decision, of which we have no input, as it should be. We can't know what other people feel, really. We must have belief in what they tell us at times.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

It's not ours to judge. To my knowledge candidates for the surgery must undergo psychiatric evaluation before the procedure is done.