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originally posted by: Phage
originally posted by: Daedalus
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Cheddarhead
Is the Mandella Effect really just the latest shiny object to distract us AND make us doubt our memories in the process?
Mandela.
One l.
hahahaha, 85 pages, and THAT is what you chose to comment on?
You're weird.
If you haven't noticed, a good portion of those pages is devoted to (mis)spellings.
I'm weird?
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Daedalus
There's an app for that.
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originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
originally posted by: Orborus
Maybe this is how evolution works
I remember almost every point you make the same.
Animal anatomy has changed for me, including humans. We now have a fully enclosed (but smaller) rib-cage (that is more like two rib-cages joined together,
It's insane how far up on the side you can be struck now without hitting a rib!
And Ray Harryhausen's skeletons are now inaccurate now...
The lungs have been redesigned...they used to be more oval-shaped (compared to how they look now.) What I mean by that is that the bottom ends are rather pointed compared to before. They also look to me like they have been flipped around a bit. And yes, too far to the back! They look rather alien to me now...
I remember the lower intestines actually looking messier. Now they look neater, more confined to me. They used to take up more space.
I agree with you about the vagina having an oval shape.
To me the skull looks a little narrower, as if it has been squashed together at the sides a bit.
Is it just me, or don't the shoulder blades look rather small and fragile now?
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Orborus
Are you saying these are personal changes for yourself? Or are you noting them for others?
Because, body parts, particularly genitalia, vary considerably from person to person.
originally posted by: Orborus
I agree body parts change from person to person but what I am talking about is an overall change to the evolution of not only humans but our ancestor species. Our skeletal, muscular and organ 'templates' have changed. Art that derives from the human anatomy (ie. cartoon skeletons) have significant changes from what I remember. I mean we've all seen halloween skeletons and skulls etc. imagine if one day they all looked strangely different, even alien.
originally posted by: Daedalus
originally posted by: SheeplFlavoredAgain
originally posted by: Daedalus
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Cheddarhead
Is the Mandella Effect really just the latest shiny object to distract us AND make us doubt our memories in the process?
Mandela.
One l.
hahahaha, 85 pages, and THAT is what you chose to comment on?
You're weird.
Quite the contrary. If we are going to get caught up on the spelling of names and other words as evidence of a certain phenomenon, it is wise that we start paying closer attention to accurate spelling.
Clearly, you've not had a discussion with Phage, lol.
While i find most of the material related to this issue to be rather silly, there are a few bits that hold my interest. With Phage, though..you can never rule out pedantry. That is to say; i'm not sure if he's genuinely interested in the topic, or is just being pedantic, for the sake of it.
originally posted by: Orborus
themissionlsc.com...
www.anatomy-diagram.info...
Animal anatomy has changed for me, including humans. We now have a fully enclosed (but smaller) rib-cage (that is more like two rib-cages joined together, one growing from the chest out and the other from the spine out and both meeting at the middle). This wasn't always the case, I distinctly remember the rib cage just cupping rather than fully encasing the chest organs and I think the breast bone was more a floating plate.
In addition the tip of the chest cavity appears to have moved up above the clavicle, our lungs are now almost in our necks which looks very strange to me. There are more organs bunched up under the ribs too, I never remember the stomach being so tucked under the ribs, nor do I remember the liver being practically the size of a lung.
Small intestines have gotten even messier (in arrangement) than what I remember and the intestines take up the whole abdomen, I distinctly recall it being squashed down more (to pelvis). Stomach seems to have moved to the side and further up (all the organs seem to have been shifted up or down in relation to abdomen - implying a stretched abdomen).
originally posted by: Cheddarhead
originally posted by: tigertatzen
originally posted by: Cheddarhead
originally posted by: tigertatzen
originally posted by: Cheddarhead
originally posted by: schmae
I think the TPTB/ psy ops is more likely than a parallel universe. That may be because I do not understand parallel things and movies like the Matrix bore me because they are beyond what I can think of as ' real'. But if this is TPTB and all they want to do is alter a few extremely unimportant names on books and cd's , I guess that's not too bad, right?
unless the TPTB are just doing some trials to see how well it works before committing to the main event...
If it means anything, I am only experiencing ME in relation to things like books, music, news stories, etc., but so far nothing from my personal life. Memory is fallible, it's been proven, and is that what the whole basis of ME is built on? Could there be some kind of gaslighting by unknown person or persons to destabilize us? People would be quite easy to influence if they doubted their every recollection was wrong.
You just echoed precisely what I was talking about with my husband and his brother this morning. Down to the letter.
I've been thinking about something else, too. Doesn't the ME seem to be snowballing? Granted, the more people become aware of the phenomenon, the more attention will be drawn to it and the internet is certainly helping that.
What if the Berenstain/Berenstein Bears was only the latest trial?
What if the fabled Lost Thunderbird Photo was the real start of the Mandella Effect?
Could it have been the first attempt at gaslighting the English speaking population, presuming this is some kind of CIA/American psyop? Or was it the inspiration? Consider this. Unknown person or persons observed a sizable population wracking their brains trying to remember that picture and spending considerable time looking for it, (let's not forget being distracted from other things going on in the world) and saying "hey, we can USE that..."
Is the Mandella Effect really just the latest shiny object to distract us AND make us doubt our memories in the process?
It would be helpful to see if there are possible other connections that may seem unrelatan increase in episodes of synchronicity, lost time, etc. I may actually make a thread to discuss possibilities and theories pertaining to that.
It is strange that you brought up those particular points...read my last post above this one. More synchronicity. It does indeed appear to be snowballing. And...the best term I can think of right now is "mutating"more research is uncovering discrepancies, some experience all of the effects, others only some, still others none.
They're messing with all of us. And observing the results, to what end, I can only speculate. I would not be at all surprised to see a sudden, previously undiscovered (or undisclosed) scientific explanation surface in the near future that answers all of our questions sufficiently enough so that we can accept it as simply the way it is now (due to unforeseen xyz explanation, naturally) and move forward.
Desensitizing, rewriting what we thought to be true, and placating in one smooth flow. Allow time for the next shiny, bright distraction to take hold and Boom! Proceed with the next phase...which yes, I think might be the big finale to the whole bizarre production.
And just to be clear, I am not talking about some biblical event or anything. I've felt for some time now that if anyone comes down to Earth to save us, from up in the heavens, they're probably not going to bear any type of passing resemblance to Jesus Christ. Sorry, just my perspective...although the book of Revelations is a rather intriguing read right now.
How do we narrow down who "they" are, in order to formulate a clear hypothesis? Gryphon and a couple of others were examining the apparent confinement of the effects to N. America as a factor. That does seem to jibe with the whole deliberate manipulation theory.
But here's a question that is bothering me:
If they're watching us, which I am certain they would be, then they know that we are discussing this. So what if we figure it out? What...they just hit the reset button and fry our memories again?
Or...do we think we're figuring it out because they want us to think that? Because then we'll feel like we slew the beast and get overconfident? Maybe that's the desired result. Fear is the strongest of all human emotions...their most valuable tool and weapon.
But what most people don't think about is that when an intense fear is suddenly allayed, it is replaced by an equally, if not more intense sense of relief. And that would be the perfect moment to take total control...or whatever they plan to do.
My feelings are that being allowed to collaborate and compare notes, so to speak, is part of the experiment. Whatever our conclusions, whether correct or out in left field, is all being observed somewhere. I'm honestly not trying to be paranoid. For all I know, the Madela effect is just the latest obsession in the same vein as all the 2012 hysteria, or just a massive number of people with faulty memories who have internet access.
But too many of us have all had the same experience of remembering something clearly only to have a WTF moment at a later date when we hear it again, such as a celebrity or famous person's death or song lyrics that just sound "off".
Living with the feeling that your memories are incorrect is important to someone for some reason, and it may take years for this all to come to fruition.
originally posted by: SheeplFlavoredAgain
Okay, now in a previous post I promised I wouldn't do a "me, too" unless I had a good reason. I have a good reason. I saved the parts of your post that match MY mental model of the human anatomy as I remembered it and as I thought it still was until your post made me go look it up. With the exception being that I can feel my own ribs and know they are attached to the sternum. However I never stopped to note they all are attached to the sternum. I don't go poking myself in the ribs and therefore assumed that the last few pairs still terminated just short of attachment to the sternum. Silly me. But I really have not had a reason to go looking this stuff up since memorizing it all like a good student and getting excellent grades in my AP Biology class a bazillion years ago.
Now the thing is, I had been hospitalized not long ago with symptoms of a heart attack. It turned out to be a false alarm but meanwhile I have been treated for gastric problems of currently unknown cause. I won't know until I get the necessary scoping done several weeks from now. I was asked if my stomach hurt and like the ignoramus I am...I said "Oh no, my stomach is fine. The pain is around my esophagus."
The kicker with that is...yes, the pain damn well is in my stomach. But in my mind I'm carrying around the same visual map you are...and thinking my stomach was somewhere down where my intestines apparently are. And meanwhile it's been up stuck under my rib cage all this time.
I attribute the mistake about the arrangement of abdominal organs to inadequate teaching materials. The books and diagrams of my education tended to present all the systems in isolation. So I couldn't get an accurate sense or where these organs are in relation to the stomach. The few pics and diagrams I was able to find in the Internet are so much better at helping me get that spacial placement down in my head. Even now, some pictures and diagrams are still misleading. Anyway excelling in AP Biology clearly didn't mean I was an anatomy expert. Had I continued taking courses in college I doubt I would have spent most of my adult life with a badly skewed sense of my own anatomy.
As for the conceptualization I had about the structure of the ribs...well I don't know. Diagrams and photos and even plastic models of skeletons certainly existed in adequate quality even during my school days. I can't really explain it.
originally posted by: tweetie
a reply to: Orborus
My question:
Are these anatomical changes showing up more in the younger generations or is anatomy morphing (to one extent or another) across the board?