Half of UK Muslims want homosexuality banned

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw

originally posted by: muse7
Something that Muslims and Christian Conservatives can both agree on.

Difference being, you let the Muslims take over and the Liberals are doing just that, you will see much more than just opposition to the lifestyle. With conservatives, you have progress in the face of enormous pressure. Muslims will just round up the homosexuals and behead them all. They wont bend to political pressure, they will just extinguish it.

Liberal LGBT snowflakes will rue the day they decided to leave the Muslims out of their fight for equal rights..

The Muslim population accounts for approx 5% in the UK, trust me they aren't taking over.

Liberal LGBT snowflakes? Why is being Liberal so dirty? What is the opposite to Liberal? Do you really prefer a world where we even have our opinions manipulated so we can be controlled? Snowflakes? I suppose your proof this stuff really works.

People talk about the odd video of some dude going around some street and telling people to stop drinking and then suddenly, with the help of a little statistical magic, Muslims are taking over, even though they amount to 5% of our population.

I live very near to Bury Park, some of the London Bus bombers had strong links to here....... It is infamous as being a Muslim area. Yet, the only tension you get within the local area is when the EDF muppets come to town or their counterpart UAF. When I see them marching down my streets en mass intent on beheading gay people I'll be fighting, not rueing. But from the slant you seem to have of the situation, we don't seem to have a functioning police force and we are standing right on that precipice as we pontificate.

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: 3danimator2014


You have picked me up wrong I get on well with my muslim neighbours & work colleagues I go to lunch with a couple of them. QUALIFY.

Look at the Glasgow shopkeeper murder the other week a muslim killed by another muslim because he wished his christian customers a happy Easter that's how warped many are. WAS HE LYNCHED BY HIS COMMUNITY THEN?

The female member of my family repeatedly verbally abused on her way to work over a period of 18+ months. IF YOU SAY SO.

I have heard of areas of one major city that if a white person walks through with a carrier bag of alcohol they are threatened because the local muslims say they control the area. WHICH AREA PLEASE, HAS THIS HAPPENED TO YOU? HOW DID YOU HEAR THIS?

That's only a few of many examples I know. PLEASE ELABORATE ON THE MANY EXAMPLES YOU KNOW AND HOW YOU COME TO KNOW THEM.

Has anyone here ever been polled for their opinion? I never have and, not surprisingly I don't know anyone else who has either.

So who exactly that those who have been polled on anything in their own countries in the first place on any topic - that is before we get into the nitty gritty of the way poles and statistics are managed/manipulated in order to prove something, rather than find out something?

Its all about agendas being set before the information is to hand.

For all those asking how the sample had been conducted, it is here.

ICM conducted a random location, quota-based sampling approach, with locations selected from all of those where the Muslim population accounts for at least 20% of the total population. This ensures that one in five will be eligible.

Why did we choose the 20% minimum threshold? A full scale random location methodology which includes areas with very few Muslims living in them would have been practically impossible given reasonable cost restraints. Slightly more than 50 % of British Muslims live in the areas we surveyed, and we believe that the 20% threshold was a compromise that was superior to others that could have been taken, as indeed they have to be on every survey that is ever conducted.

a reply to: 83Liberty

Some asshole member posted the pdf a few pages back.

It's an interesting report

a reply to: Kandinsky

I've read the whole thread and from what I have seen they posted a link to the actual survey, which is not the link I provided.

a reply to: 83Liberty

By golly, you're right. That asshole member should shut up

This is also reported in other MSM, not just Sky...
www.theguardian.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.bbc.co.uk...
www.independent.co.uk...

This survey, entitled 'What British Muslims Really Think' will be aired tonight on Channel 4.

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: 83Liberty

By golly, you're right. That asshole member should shut up

Eh? I don't get it.
He should shut up because he provided a link to the actual survey that this whole thread is based on?

originally posted by: 83Liberty
For all those asking how the sample had been conducted, it is here.

ICM conducted a random location, quota-based sampling approach, with locations selected from all of those where the Muslim population accounts for at least 20% of the total population. This ensures that one in five will be eligible.

Why did we choose the 20% minimum threshold? A full scale random location methodology which includes areas with very few Muslims living in them would have been practically impossible given reasonable cost restraints. Slightly more than 50 % of British Muslims live in the areas we surveyed, and we believe that the 20% threshold was a compromise that was superior to others that could have been taken, as indeed they have to be on every survey that is ever conducted.

Thanks for this - useful information.

The concentration of those surveyed to highly populated Muslim areas does, in my view, skew the results.
All Muslims that live in areas of low Muslim populations have been excluded from the survey - some 1.4m of them.

I would expect Muslim populations of less than 20% of the overall population to be better integrated into the UK and therefore hold more moderate views on questions relating to sexuality.

I think, therefore, that what the survey is actually saying is that '50% of Muslims that live in areas with a high population mix of fellow Muslims believe that homosexuality should be banned'.

triple post!

triple post!

originally posted by: 83Liberty

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: 83Liberty

By golly, you're right. That asshole member should shut up

Eh? I don't get it.
He should shut up because he provided a link to the actual survey that this whole thread is based on?

LOL, Kandisky is the person that posted the survey!
Self deprecation

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: 83Liberty
For all those asking how the sample had been conducted, it is here.

ICM conducted a random location, quota-based sampling approach, with locations selected from all of those where the Muslim population accounts for at least 20% of the total population. This ensures that one in five will be eligible.

Why did we choose the 20% minimum threshold? A full scale random location methodology which includes areas with very few Muslims living in them would have been practically impossible given reasonable cost restraints. Slightly more than 50 % of British Muslims live in the areas we surveyed, and we believe that the 20% threshold was a compromise that was superior to others that could have been taken, as indeed they have to be on every survey that is ever conducted.

Thanks for this - useful information.

The concentration of those surveyed to highly populated Muslim areas does, in my view, skew the results.
All Muslims that live in areas of low Muslim populations have been excluded from the survey - some 1.4m of them.

I would expect Muslim populations of less than 20% of the overall population to be better integrated into the UK and therefore hold more moderate views on questions relating to sexuality.

I think, therefore, that what the survey is actually saying is that '50% of Muslims that live in areas with a high population mix of fellow Muslims believe that homosexuality should be banned'.

You are absolutely correct.

Another point is that on page 6 of the survey, it shows 64% of Muslims born in the UK think Homosexuality should be legal, while only 36% of Muslims who where not born in the UK think it should be legal.

originally posted by: 83Liberty
This is also reported in other MSM, not just Sky...
www.theguardian.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.bbc.co.uk...
www.independent.co.uk...

This survey, entitled 'What British Muslims Really Think' will be aired tonight on Channel 4.

But this isn't propaganda.

originally posted by: 83Liberty

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: 83Liberty
For all those asking how the sample had been conducted, it is here.

ICM conducted a random location, quota-based sampling approach, with locations selected from all of those where the Muslim population accounts for at least 20% of the total population. This ensures that one in five will be eligible.

Why did we choose the 20% minimum threshold? A full scale random location methodology which includes areas with very few Muslims living in them would have been practically impossible given reasonable cost restraints. Slightly more than 50 % of British Muslims live in the areas we surveyed, and we believe that the 20% threshold was a compromise that was superior to others that could have been taken, as indeed they have to be on every survey that is ever conducted.

Thanks for this - useful information.

The concentration of those surveyed to highly populated Muslim areas does, in my view, skew the results.
All Muslims that live in areas of low Muslim populations have been excluded from the survey - some 1.4m of them.

I would expect Muslim populations of less than 20% of the overall population to be better integrated into the UK and therefore hold more moderate views on questions relating to sexuality.

I think, therefore, that what the survey is actually saying is that '50% of Muslims that live in areas with a high population mix of fellow Muslims believe that homosexuality should be banned'.

You are absolutely correct.

Another point is that on page 6 of the survey, it shows 64% of Muslims born in the UK think Homosexuality should be legal, while only 36% of Muslims who where not born in the UK think it should be legal.

Yes the 1st / 2nd generation differences should be expected - it was discussed earlier on as a potential skew...

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: auraofblack

Then let them go live in a backward thinking Muslim nation that entertains the arcane notion.

End of the day if they dont like the laws of the land they are perfectly free to depart our shores.

Quite agree.

Besides, homosexuality is not something that is possible to 'ban'...it just 'is'. You may as well attempt to ban Humanity.

Didn't i read that it is considered acceptable for Muslim men to have homosexual sex with young boys, in order to 'save' the virginity of unmarried women?

I don't suppose that's considered homosexuality, especially if you happen to be a raving hypocrite.

a reply to: MysterX

To be honest homosexuality's not my cup of Tea but i have family members that are gay. People cannot help what they are, live and let live is my motto.

As to it somehow being ok to sexually abuse young boys with the excuse of preserving an unmarried woman's virginity, the mind boggles!

All i can say is Allah help any poor Muslim woman that finds herself married to a Man that agrees with or has participated in what amount the child rape of a young boy. Because there are obviously a closet homosexual themselves and also a pedophile!

God help any children that enter into the world with a father like that(not gay i mean beast) or that believes such.

a reply to: UKTruth

My maths isn't skewed fella, I'm saying this biased on its design, by your own ommission the design will skew results.... It's horse #.

Mate, go easy with insults. I ask you explain and your claim because from what I read seems to confirm what I am saying and your explanation is to insult my intelligence?

It's cool though you at least concede that the results may be skewed by design so my point stands. We can argue all day long about sample size but by design it is horse#

The liberals have worked so hard to destroy all Christian nations; did they truly think that nothing would come to fill the void? All of those things like LGBTQ rights, feminism, abortion are going the way of the dodo in Europe. The muslims will not be swayed either. I say good, you get what you deserve. Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.