Muslim shopkeeper headstomped and stabbed to death in Glasgow after wishing for a happy easter

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: chuck258
UPDATE:


Just went back to the article. A suspect has been apprehended, a 32 year old man that Police have confirmed was in fact Muslim.


www.dailymail.co.uk...


"Police confirmed that all those involved in the investigation were Muslim"


EDIT: I'm going to get something to eat. I'll be back in a bit to see what all of you who discredited my theory have to say about it.

The Daily Fail....still not sure exactly what happened. If in case the perpetrator is Muslim, are you expecting a prize?

Of course I'm not expecting a prize. I'm not happy that my theory has proven right, but the protection that progressives give Radical Muslims under the guise of political correctness and their narrow definition of what THEY CALL "tolerance" needs to be addressed. Every person on this board that was hoping with every ounce of their being that I wasn't right are only serving to protect radical Muslims. What favor are they doing ANYONE when they try to quash mere mention or possibility of Islamic Extremism? Islamic Extremism affects everyone, including peace loving Muslims, just like Mr. Shah here. When exposure of it is eliminated, more people are going to have their guard down and it can cost lives. And I think the fact that Mr. Shah was quite obviously loved by his community (including Glasgow which is >85% White) goes against the doom porn view of Progressives that calling out Islamic Extremism is going to make people hate all Muslims.

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: chuck258
I'll be back in a bit to see what all of you who discredited my theory have to say about it.

I just say I'm genuinely surprised, no big deal. The poor man's death is equally as senseless and tragic.
Arrests are different to convictions though so wait and see I guess, although it is unusual for UK police to state a suspects religion. Maybe to avoid further community tension?

I have lived in Shawlands for twenty years and my first thought was that it would be a ned, addict or some sort of scumbag that was white, we all know the type. If it turns out that it was somehow as the OP suggested, there would be no one more surprised than me...hey...I live here.
This man was popular and well known, I think his funeral will have a large attendance. Very sad.

The Daily Fail....still not sure exactly what happened. If in case the perpetrator is Muslim, are you expecting a prize?

Also, just because you don't like the Daily Mail's angle on News Events doesn't make them not true. Them stating that the suspect they have arrested is Muslim is not an angle, its a fact. Plain and simple. You just don't like it.

a reply to: grainofsand

It seems the police did infact share my line of thinking...

originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: chuck258
I'll be back in a bit to see what all of you who discredited my theory have to say about it.

I just say I'm genuinely surprised, no big deal. The poor man's death is equally as senseless and tragic.
Arrests are different to convictions though so wait and see I guess, although it is unusual for UK police to state a suspects religion. Maybe to avoid further community tension?

I have lived in Shawlands for twenty years and my first thought was that it would be a ned, addict or some sort of scumbag that was white, we all know the type. If it turns out that it was somehow as the OP suggested, there would be no one more surprised than me...hey...I live here.
This man was popular and well known, I think his funeral will have a large attendance. Very sad.

Read my post on the previous page. The arrested suspect has been confirmed as a 32 year old Muslim.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Popular Muslim shopkeeper, 40, was stabbed to death outside his business in a religiously motivated attack by another Muslim just hours after he posted a message wishing his 'beloved Christian nation' a happy Easter

Police Scotland confirmed to MailOnline that everyone currently involved in the investigation was a Muslim following the arrest of a man aged 32.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: grainofsand

It seems the police did infact share my line of thinking...

Could be, or maybe the witness told them the killers were of Asian appearance and as would be likely, the Asians they arrested for questioning were Muslim.
We shall see though, to say again, arrests are not convictions.
I've been arrested many times just so an investigation can be carried out, only to be released with no further action.

a reply to: chuck258

I haven't disputed it, just expressed an opinion based on my experience of where I live. It is a 'first' here, as far as I know.

It will be interesting to see how this unfolds and plays out in the community. It turns out that many members of my family knew this man.

Regards midicon

How do the police know they are of the Muslim faith. I've never known anyone arrested ever to be asked what religion they are when taking down your particulars. Why would they ask this time. ?

a reply to: Soloprotocol

They were all wearing a Taqiyah, or Salwar Kameez?
They are all linked to a particular Mosque?

If the police have actually made that statement then they certainly believe it. Do you not? Why?

a reply to: grainofsand

OK I see you have a problem admitting you are wrong...
Are you aware of the odds of arrests and convictions made within the first 48 hours after a murder?

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Not in the front of my mind, no.
Please share the statistics for the UK if you know them though, it is always interesting to learn something new.
Me, I still believe in the old-fashioned idea of innocent until proven guilty over trial by ATS lol

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Soloprotocol

They were all wearing a Taqiyah, or Salwar Kameez?
They are all linked to a particular Mosque?

If the police have actually made that statement then they certainly believe it. Do you not? Why?

I've only seen the report from the BBC link i put up. So didn't know any details other than what's said in the report.

a reply to: grainofsand

Statements are not made without admissions or physical proof by police...
To do so would be highly detrimental...
I'll leave you with that...

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Police say lots of things, doesn't mean a court will agree.
I'll leave it at that as well.

a reply to: grainofsand
What a lot of you fail to realise or jump to thr wrong conclusion ie,(it must have been yobs to stamp on his head) one of the biggest insults a muslim can do is hit someone with the sole of his shoe ie. stamp on his head. Or did you think in the videos of Iraqis were being silly when they pulled down Saddams statue and started thrashing it with their shoes.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: grainofsand
What a lot of you fail to realise or jump to thr wrong conclusion ie,(it must have been yobs to stamp on his head) one of the biggest insults a muslim can do is hit someone with the sole of his shoe ie. stamp on his head. Or did you think in the videos of Iraqis were being silly when they pulled down Saddams statue and started thrashing it with their shoes.

Oh I'm fully aware of that, just the overwhelming majority of beatings, kicking's unconscious, killings etc are committed by white males in the UK.
We have a very violent sub-culture, perhaps more so because we generally do not own guns, who knows, but jumping at radical Islam by the OP was less likely statistically than white males.
It may not even be over religious sectarianism, could just be a family/neighbour feud and/or just some scum youths who happen to attend a Mosque because their elders expect them to, you know, not 'real' Muslims.

Muslims can't be junkie skagheads?

We shall see.

A final message, posted on his Facebook yesterday at 5.10pm, reads: "Good Friday and a very Happy Easter, especially to my beloved Christian nation... Let's follow the real footstep of beloved holy Jesus Christ and get the real success in both worlds."

In previous posts, he also called "unconditional real love for all mankind"

A terrible tragedy, may he RIP. And may his family Live In Peace.

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: grainofsand
What a lot of you fail to realise or jump to thr wrong conclusion ie,(it must have been yobs to stamp on his head) one of the biggest insults a muslim can do is hit someone with the sole of his shoe ie. stamp on his head. Or did you think in the videos of Iraqis were being silly when they pulled down Saddams statue and started thrashing it with their shoes.

Oh I'm fully aware of that, just the overwhelming majority of beatings, kicking's unconscious, killings etc are committed by white males in the UK.
We have a very violent sub-culture, perhaps more so because we generally do not own guns, who knows, but jumping at radical Islam by the OP was less likely statistically than white males.
It may not even be over religious sectarianism, could just be a family/neighbour feud and/or just some scum youths who happen to attend a Mosque because their elders expect them to, you know, not 'real' Muslims.

Ultimately, I agree with your line of thinking. It is quite possible that this wasn't motivated because of religious reasons (even though the Police think so). I think the main point I want to illustrate, and would love for Progressives to do across the board is simply wait for facts. All to often, Progressives jump to conclusions before all facts are in. It happens with racial incidents here in the US with alarming regularity. A black person is shot by police. 99% of Progressives are going to assume it was unjustified and they go spouting off about how the cops shouldn't have shot them. Tweets along the lines of "welp, another Black person shot dead by police today" - forget the story behind the shooting. It happened with another topic I created in Social Issues and Civil Unrest. 3 black women going to the University of Albany attacked White people on a bus going back to campus late one night, they then tried to claim that they themselves were the victims of a hate crime. Less than 24 hours after the event, Clinton as commenting on the incident as if it was fact, the President of the University was calling for heads to roll, and one student was threatened so severely that he feared for his physical safety and stopped going to school. Turns out a couple of weeks later, video surveillance shows the 3 black women were the aggressors, and witnesses said the only racial epithets that were thrown were thrown by the 3 girls. Progressives were #ing silent. It's ironic that they can deal it out, but when topics like this are created, oh man, all of a sudden they are all sorts of "prove this" and "wait for the facts" that, despite doing the exact opposite in cases like Albany.

So, as long as I continue to see cases like Albany, or that Mosque that was burned down by a Muslim pop up, condemning particularly White people or the west, I will create topics like this one. To bad for Progressives, I am right in my assumptions more often than they are right.

Until Progressives can learn to practice what they preach in ALL cases, people like me will continue to play and beat them at their own game.

Statistically speaking, yes, there are probably more White males overall guilty of beatings stabbings and murders than Muslims and immigrants in England, but that is because of sheer numeric "advantage". But considering the events surrounding this murder, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put all the factors together:

Radical Muslims (RADICAL Muslims people, not the peaceful moderate ones, RADICAL Muslims) have been growing steadily more and more violent over the last few years, getting more bold and being legitimized by Politicians who are up for re-election.

This man created a facebook post that directly contends with Radical Muslims beliefs, and by writing that everyone should follow in Jesus's footsteps (as opposed to Mohammeds), he committed blasphemy

Being Radical Muslims, they took it upon themselves to punish a blasphemer who has no turned himself into an "enemy of Islam" (in their eyes only)

He was stabbed by 2 men and then had his head stomped on less than 8 hours after the fact, costing him his life. Considering the sheer violence behind the stabbing and head stomping while he was down, more or less, a "random" attack can be ruled out. I can see a random attack getting him stabbed, or maybe stomped on, but not both at the same time. That is a strong indicator that someone was extremely angry at him, to the point they wanted to make sure he suffered as much as possible. Who would all of a sudden be so angry at this man that was apparently loved by all? Well, look at his facebook post. He appeared to be celebrating a Christian holiday.

Considering that he was being blasphemous, radical Islam is on a slow but seemingly constant rise, and the sheer brutality of the crime, a logical mind would suspect he was likely attacked by a radical Muslim.