Proof: Advanced Ancient Indian Civilization existed

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Is there good books about this ancient civilisation and the atlantis civilisation?

Thanks

I suppose "good" would depend on which side of the story you want to hear . If you just want to know what sort of stories/theories are out there, then there are bound to be tons of them. Some of the "classics" of the genre are HP Blavatsky's "The Secret Doctrine" and "Stanzas of Dyzan", James Churchward's "Lost Continent of Mu", and Fredrick Spencer Oliver's "A Dweller on Two Planets". If you want Atlantis proper instead of Lemuria/Mu then Igatius Donnely (spelling?) might be the one to go to. I don't remember what his book was called- maybe Atlantis Rising but I'm not sure.
I haven't read these so I don't know how great they are- I just know what they are about.

I'm sure there are more recent books you could find, but I don't know who the current leading authors in that genre would be.

If you're looking for a "just the facts" view on lost continents, you can go right to the source and ask the horse (he'll give you an answer that you'll endorse). You can find Plato's Dialogue of Critias online. It's mostly a lost work, so it wont take you long to read what little we have of it. (that's not to say that everything Plato says is fact, but it's free of new age interpretation/tampering.)

[edit on 9-4-2005 by The Vagabond]

Totally agree with what your saying and its modern man's arrogance that I find funny we in the west believe or "take" of history is the only true possibility of what had happened in the past and any other explanation of history is flawed. If we used nuclear weapons 7,000 years ago to destroy ourselves. I suppose we could have done it 7,000 years before that. After all what prove would we believe that would go against religious beliefs.

The worrying thought being we have already destroyed civilisation and rebuilt ourselves to the same level, will we do it again.

[edit on 9-4-2005 by Munro_DreadGod]

'Cataclysm', or 'When the Earth Nearly Died', Allen and Delair. This book gives another alternative downfall of any previous advanced civilization, backed up with tons of good, solid, tangible evidence to support it.

The Vagabond and BlackGuardXIII , thanks!!

I will try to get those books and read them, now that I finished The Da Vinci Code that was very good !!

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Ok so this is from a wierd source, but it seems valid.

Well, if anything, this thread has inspired me to build up my library a bit. I read the Bhagvad Gita and the Upanisads during my, uh, "searching" high school days (*remembers long hair*) man that was only 6 years ago...

Anyways, I received my copies of the Mahabharata and the Ramayana in the mail yesterday. I opted for the "condensed version" of the "world's greatest epic" (Mahabharata) by Krishna Darma and I got R. K. Narayan's translation of the Ramayana ("shortened modern prose version"). For those familiar with these, did I choose well?

At first, I had ordered K. Darma's 900+ page version of the Mahabharata, but many reviews stated that the foreshadowing was tediously redundant in that version, so I changed my order.

Thanks,
Zip

here's proof enough for me,Evidence of Ancient Atomic Explosion


www.s8int.com...

" Are the Indian remains of Mohenjo Daro and Harappa, their sudden abandonment and the apparent discovery of an ancient site with a layer of radioactive ash the best available evidence for the possibility that our ancient ancestors possessed a highly advanced technology – which might have included atomic warfare?"

www.philipcoppens.com...

Very interesting post, i have included some links to sites which discuss Nuclear radiation in some Indian cities. Is this genuine about the irradiated skeletons that has radiation levels on par with bodies in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

"When excavations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro reached the street level, they discovered skeletons scattered about the cities, many holding hands and sprawling in the streets as if some instant, horrible doom had taken place. People were just lying, unburied, in the streets of the city. And these skeletons are thousands of years old, even by traditional archaeological standards. What could cause such a thing? Why did the bodies not decay or get eaten by wild animals? Furthermore, there is no apparent cause of a physically violent death.

These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on par with those at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal"

www.s8int.com...

www.geocities.com...

Originally posted by VDS
Is this genuine about the irradiated skeletons that has radiation levels on par with bodies in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

No.

In the 1920s, 39 (37 or 38 according to some sources) skeletons - many incomplete - were found, laying in a manner suggesting they'd met violent deaths. I think later forensic studies indicated knife wounds? This was usefd as evidence for the 'Aryan Invasion' theory, which is now generally discredited.

There indeed was an advanced Indian civilization and there was also a voilent invasion by the aryans on the dravidians who were inhabitants of the peaceful advanced civilization




HARAPPA - INDUS VALLEY, 2800- 2300 BC: This period is considered the peak of Indus valley civilization – one of the three greatest civilizations at that time, the other two being the Egyptian and Mesopotamian. The proud inhabitants of this civilization were the Dravidians who are now thought to be the original native inhabitants of the great land of India.

What caused the decline of the Indus Valley civilisation?

More than the enviornmental factors, it is now believed that the main cause that led to the decline of the Indus valley civilization was the violent arrival of the Indo- Aryans.
It is now believed that before these Indo Aryans invaded India, they had settled in the present Afghanistan for many centuries, since the religious scriptures of the Indo- Aryans (Vedas) mentions many names of the rivers in Afghanistan

for the complete link

www.tamilnation.org...

arc mar, I don't know whether your comment about the violent invasion by Warlike, light Aryans to overthrow the Peaceful, dark Dravidians is true or not, because, unlike many here, I am not a scholar of the history of India.

The link you gave us was certainly a good read, but you need to remember that it's probably somewhat biased, simply because of the geopolicical reality of the ongoing strife between "Hindus" and Tamils, especially on the island of Ceylon (cf: "Tamil Tigers", "EELAM", etc.).

VDS: The Indians have a defense lab that does radiological testing in Jomphur not far from the supposedly irradiated city. There is also a nuclear testing sight somewhere in the area (50 to 100 miles if memory serves).

Hi Off_The_Street

Vagabond and i had his discussion in the other thread, the poin i d like to make is thaty most tamils are "hindus".In Sri Lanka the Tamils are fighting against the "budddhist Sinhala " people and not as you mentioned.So there is no bias here.

Originally posted by BlackGuardXIII
You are blind, the shred......lol is hard to miss
It is a structure that no modern engineer or scientist has credibly explained. It contains 2.3 million meticulously cut blocks. is 200 times more precisely square than modern buildings, and contains a 200 ton granite slab, 225 feet up, which is a puzzling feat in itself. The logistics of duplicating it as perfectly as the original are beyond todays best minds.

Originally posted by The Vagabond
What about www.theforgottentechnology.com do you not understand?
We know how the did it. Extremely clever use of very basic mechanical principles. If you would like to come to CA, buy the materials, and pay me suitable wages, my 2 brothers and I, construction workers all, will be happy to pour a series of large cement slabs and stack them in whatever pattern you like using counterweights, levers, and fulcrums. Otherwise just look at the pictures I have linked you to.

Channel 4 did a show using this guys idea for how the pyramid was built, couldn't hold the blocks they attempted to use and they were not at the weight that the ones inside the pyramid are. I'll hunt out the document for you/show, once I get a chance but I used to agree with this theory till I watched this show.

[edit on 21-6-2005 by Odium]

Originally posted by timoothy
here's proof enough for me,Evidence of Ancient Atomic Explosion


www.s8int.com...

That verse from the Mahabharata that is quoted again and again is completely false. At no point in the Mahabharata has this verse been mentioned. That verse is a blatant misinterpretation of someone who has disregarded facts and woven his own little fantasy. Im guessing its Charles Berlitz. What baffles me is that Discovery telecasts every UFO/Mysterious lost civ shows and quotes that verse without even bothering to find out if that verse is actually mentioned in the epic. By no means does this mean that super weapons and its atomic like effects are not mentioned.Sure they are and they are more mentioned in the Ramayana than the Mahabharata. There are translations of both the epics in English and i suggest a good read.

If We did have an advanced technology such as nuclear weapons in the past and ancient towns have been found with a layer of radioactive debris over them. Then we have blown ourselves up in the past, so guess we could do it again. Specially with India and Pakistan nulcear armed. Food for thought i spose.

In reguards to my point, I am unable to actually find the C4 show which did this and the guy who did it, however I do know it was done...

I'll keep looking.

Originally posted by Munro_DreadGod
If We did have an advanced technology such as nuclear weapons in the past

We didn't.

and ancient towns have been found with a layer of radioactive debris over them.

There aren't any such towns. As others have said (who have actually read the Indian scriptures) there are no such verses. They were made up by someone to see how many people he could fool.

Deny ignorance -- check the scriptures for yourself. There are a lot of complete English translations online.

quote: Originally posted by BlackGuardXIII
You are blind, the shred......lol is hard to miss
It is a structure that no modern engineer or scientist has credibly explained. It contains 2.3 million meticulously cut blocks. is 200 times more precisely square than modern buildings, and contains a 200 ton granite slab, 225 feet up, which is a puzzling feat in itself. The logistics of duplicating it as perfectly as the original are beyond todays best minds.

quote: Originally posted by The Vagabond
What about www.theforgottentechnology.com do you not understand?
We know how the did it. Extremely clever use of very basic mechanical principles. If you would like to come to CA, buy the materials, and pay me suitable wages, my 2 brothers and I, construction workers all, will be happy to pour a series of large cement slabs and stack them in whatever pattern you like using counterweights, levers, and fulcrums. Otherwise just look at the pictures I have linked you to.

It might take a while to secure the funding, but first I need a quote. So, if your blueprints are feasible and replicate precisely the accuracy and complexity of the details of the original, and also outline how you propose to complete the project, I will do whatever it takes to get the financing. But, I want you to know that I will expect your logistics plans, materials list, transport plans, and all the dimensions must be no less precise than the original. It must explain how you will hoist the granite slab above the Kings chamber into place, and detail the sizes of the blocks on the surface of each tier. And don't forget the concavities on the sides, or the alignment precision to true north. And it must be within .015 % of true square, like the first one, none of this 3% variance that is so common today. I will not demand that you hollow out the sarcophagus using a drill that cuts as deeply per rotation as the original, since I know that is a very tough nut to crack, but if you were able to do that one, I'd make sure you guys got a big bonus.
This would be a very exciting challenge.