WURST CASE SCENARIO: German Schools Pulling PORK From Menu To Placate Muslim Immigrants

a reply to: UnBreakable

Oh hell no.

I think I'd riot if I was German.

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

So now you cop out, denying that you were implying ZERO complicity at first, to a point that your argument was that NO German war planes were involved in bombing....I showed you the fallacy of this argument.....You were asking?

Ok, AGAIN, they are, and middle easterners have been killed by German painted bombs. Now that you are informed, care to recant your original stance that NO war effort is taking place on the part of Germany?

You made no point for too long as I shot them down and you scrambled to change your stance. Each addressed and squared away.

Now you resort to insulting me. How dare you call me a joke. That is a violation of the T&C dealing with decorum and civility.

That is a poor sport. You lost the argument having been grossly misinformed. So you insult me as if that makes your logical fallacy more correct? That is being willfully ignorant. You admit NOW that you were not stating anything but asking. YET you have the nerve to insist like you were making a statement and insult others who take the time to help you become more better informed....very sad state of your mind sir. That is not how a debate works. If you are mad, you may have already lost. Please, relax and find some peace.

Now that you see the answer to your question. Will you recant your original stance of zero complicity in bombing runs?
Will you apologize as I have not insulted you and you have insulted me?

EDIT TO ADD:
So your concern is in swaying the opinions of people and not to self inform and become a more knowledgeable person? Well I assure you that ATS is full of smart people who can inform and decide for themselves and that the facts speak for themselves. The messenger is irrelevant. Though I feel this is all an exercise on your part to seem more informed than you are and secondly to sway public thought in a propagandist, shill-esq manner. The personal attacks on me also do not go unnoticed.

Your decorum is lacking and your information is grossly inaccurate. How on earth could you hope to convince others to be as you are, inadequate in debate and lacking in substance to your arguments and thoughts?

Western culture has gotten really soft.
If you start with pork then when are we all,forced to go vegan because vegans are offended by meat.

a reply to: tadaman

The personal attacks on me also do not go unnoticed.

By all means, please notify the mods so they can look at this discussion.

You have a lot of nerve complaining about ad homs after all the things you said yesterday.


All you are doing is taking statements of mine out of context and you try to put words in my mouth while ignoring the actual points I made. In fact you are the one that keeps changing around what I supposedly claimed.

I don't even know where to start. You are simply confusing and ignoring things up to the point where I just can't be bothered anymore to keep repeating myself while you keep ignoring and twisting my words.

If you think that this means you won the discussion be my guest, but reading back it is clear to see what you are doing.

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

Sir, I am not here to satisfy any unresolved issues of yesterdays debate which you lost. The subject is not me.

I will not bother mods over your issues with poor debating skill.

If you have nothing more to add, an unwillingness to address the points I made in my last post or the others, then so be it.

I wish to not waste anymore time with someone who has insulted me having lost in their minds a war of words. I am here like many to learn. You could take a page from us and do the same, as this is not helping anyone advance their minds and awareness, the mission of most here.

You may have walked into a community not suited for your type of debate. Your insults and vile words are not welcome by the victim or the community forced to muck through your hatred of opposing voices.

If you will not apologize for having insulted me, I leave that as a reflection of your maturity, purpose here, and level of mental progress.

Please refrain from further private messages boasting about closing my threads and replying to me if you can not speak like a rational and respectful adult.

a reply to: tadaman

Please refrain from further private messages boasting about closing my threads and replying to me if you can not speak like a rational and respectful adult.

You sent me the first u2u. I didn't boast. I gloated. Because you got your own thread closed.

You mean respectful like you are, talking about my swollen testicles, or about how I have no lover, no girlfriend, no friends.

Man, if we met in person you wouldnt even look me in the eye.

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

That post is entirely off topic. And proves your real reason for debate. Not to self inform but to bully and sway the dialogue. Change the narrative.

I did not write a single word to you. You did to me and was about reducing content for our fellow members based off your dislike of my opinions. Also my thread is not closed, you just posted there trying to impose that I can not be rid of you and that your determination to reduce content for membership is real.

So now you resort to physical threats? that if we met in person I would be scared of you? If all you have is physical prowress perhaps a community meant to revel in thought and wisdom is not for you, as you can only offer empty threats boasting of your manliness and your opponents weakness.

Please stop threatening me after insulting me. I do not wish to meet you in person. I now fear you may be a threat to my person.

a reply to: tadaman

You poor thing.

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

At least I can use my words. You may have to punch life into submission. Good luck. LOL

We now see the man behind the words. A bully.

Thank you though. I could never hope for you to admit to such, but am pleasantly surprised you are so angry as to foul yourself up like this.

I do think your words speak for themselves. Thank you.

a reply to: tadaman

I am pretty sure that if I made any threat a mod will remove it.

The only thing we can conclude here is that you are scared easily.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: DutchMasterChief


Please stop threatening me after insulting me. I do not wish to meet you in person. I now fear you may be a threat to my person.

Don't you know when someone loses a debate through discussion, they have to resort to physical challenges because they don't possess the superior intellect. The smart thing to do is just block the person. I've been in debates with members where discussions become heated and contentious, but have never led to threats of physical confrontation. 99.99% of ATS members are civil to each other in the long run, that's why I like this site.

a reply to: UnBreakable

I agree. Entirely. This is why I have been here as long as I have, and will probably log on before I take my last breath to tell you guys what I am seeing as I go kicking and screaming. LOL

have a good one sir.

Hold it down.

originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
there is plenty of other things to eat besides dead carcases

like someone else said, UK subways etc are Halal friendly and dont sell pork.
they usually use Turkey as a substitute. I
its the principle that Germans may have to change school menus if it is a reliable source and not just a blog.

but hey, things change. Just take your own lunch to school with Pork in it
problem solved

1) The source is reliable - I found and quoted other sources on P 3 or 4

2) You are suggesting that native Germans give up what is essentially a national dish to satisfy an incoming minority. That is cultural suicide.

3) Nobody has suggested to my knowledge in this entire thread that we force Muslims to eat pork. So, why should schools, where the canteen is the only option to buy lunch, stop serving it? Why can't THEY just bring their own lunch as you suggest if it offends them so very much?

a reply to: ketsuko

Actually, the European influence in the Middle East was what helped make it a nice place.

Those we have bombed to death over the last few decades might disagree with making it a better place.

a reply to: UnBreakable

Oh please, the guy was whining about ad homs when he said all sorts of stuff himself he wouldn't say in person.

And I didn't lose the debate. Germany is not bombing a country. This was the original point. And Germany didn't even contribute to action in Syria until dec 2015.

They already received 100 or so thousand refugees before that. So how is Germany's contribution since dec 2015 the cause of that. How are the Germans responsible for that?

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: yuppa

Is the issue where to hold the trial? Will there be one?


Would that change the effect on the ground after the fact?

NUremburg trials location would be perfect. And no nothing will change the past but dwelling on it is a sure fire way to repeat it. Still my point is made that it wasnt a NATO op.

@ others. I dont control what my government does. none of my business. If the rest of the world has a issue. suck it up liek the rest of u s do on a daily basis.

a reply to: yuppa

the U.N. though DID. That is who you should Blame. But can't do that.. that would include russia and china then right?

They both vetoed interventions in Syria multiple times after US exceeded mandate in Libya.

Can't get fooled again…

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

But I thought that people were fleeing from IS and people were begging for the world to interfere and fight IS.

Isis is a western backed insurgency. That and US ordnance. Good luck finding out what each member of NATO is directly responsible for, exactly. They keep that s*** secret.

originally posted by: laminatedsoul

originally posted by: intrptr

Bottom line its about tolerance. How tolerant should we be towards others, overlooking (in our eyes) their 'transgressions'?

Cry me a river, considering we behaved so intolerantly in their homelands. They want to ban pork, we banned their countries sovereignty and self determination. We bombed their country to dust. How intolerant is that?

Why did you do that? They should make YOU pay.. Since YOU did those things. I doubt school kids in Germany bombed anyone

Smh

I did say we… who's blaming "school kids"?

originally posted by: Kuroodo
They also banned the sale of Sausages in the streets

No "they" did not.

(Nor did anybody ban sale of sausages on the streets in Germany)