WURST CASE SCENARIO: German Schools Pulling PORK From Menu To Placate Muslim Immigrants

a reply to: neformore

Why don't you answer my question so that I can understand what you are trying to point out.

You made an appeal to ATS members. What was it that they got wrong here exactly?

a reply to: neformore

And I'm trying to prove that if all you read, quote and imply comes from right wing sources, then all you will get is a right-wing, anti muslim, anti immigrant agenda thrown at you, when in reality the majority of such stories are stretched out falsehoods that are shaped to the bias of the owner, editor or writer of the publication/website that they are derived from

From your article,

CDU parliamentary group leader, Daniel Günther, bemoaned on Tuesday that an increasing number of canteens, nurseries and schools are removing pork from their menu due to religious considerations. "The protection of minorities - including for religious reasons - must not mean that the majority is overruled in their free decision by ill-conceived consideration," Günther said, arguing that tolerance also means "the appreciation and sufferance of other food cultures and lifestyles." Günther told local German newspaper "Lübecker Nachrichten" that at least one nursery in every voting district had stopped serving pork after taking Muslim children into consideration.

Is the CDU(Merkel's party) right wing? Are they making this up?

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

From the OP

"In Germany, pork sausages are ubiquitous. Pork is served with every meal and it’s impossible to have a good Bavarian meal without some pork product on the plate.
So as not to offend Muslim immigrants, a push to remove pork sausages from public schools, soup kitchens and nurseries is quietly underway in Germany".
www.thefederalistpapers.org...


"A number of German cafes have started to exclude traditional pork sausages from their menus in order not to offend the feelings of Muslim newcomers, Deutsche Welle reported".
sputniknews.com...

Neither of those are true, as outlined in the Snopes article and summarised at the end of it when it says this

While it was true one or (at most) a few German politicians "bemoaned" what they believed was a disappearing presence of pork in school cafeterias, misleading headlines indicated that there was a "ban on pork". Finally, a number of Germans mocked the assertions as ludicrous and baseless.

You did read the end of it, didn't you? Its quite clear.

a reply to: neformore

The article doesn't really say anything at all about wether or not it is true what this CDU polkitician says. Again, their premise is that there is no general pork ban like some headlines may have suggested, which is correct.


So again I ask you, you still insist that the CDU(Merkel's party) is making this up and is lying?

Finally, a number of Germans mocked the assertions as ludicrous and baseless.

And this is proof that some schools did not remove pork of the menu?

This is clearly refering to the supposed general ban on pork in Germany.

originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
So again I ask you, you still insist that the CDU(Merkel's party) is making this up and is lying?

I've not said that, but I will say this - as stated above - assuming and "bemoaning" changes isn't an official ban.

What I have said is that people have not researched the story, assumed all of it to be the gospel truth without looking at its sources, and then gone off on the usual rabid anti-immigrant/anti muslim hatefest that such things bring out, when actually, no ban occurred at all.

Now, you can try and twist that as much as you like, but no ban is no ban, no matter how much you may despise certain people.

a reply to: neformore

Right......

So who in this thread said that pork was BANNED?

You say I am twisting things, but I said at least two times already that there is in fact no general ban on pork, and that the article you posted is completely correct in pointing this out.

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
And this is proof that some schools did not remove pork of the menu?

This is clearly refering to the supposed general ban on pork in Germany.

You did.

a reply to: neformore

Did what?



So you think that I suggested there that there is a general ban on pork. I clearly didn't. Why would you even think that after I specifically pointed out that I think that this is not the case, several times?

What's even more funny is that you are now implying that this post of mine would be the reason for your unfounded rant, even though you posted it way before that.

a reply to: neformore

Now, you can try and twist that as much as you like, but no ban is no ban, no matter how much you may despise certain people.

As much as I may despise certain people? Oh now it's about me. And for what, I didn't say a single thing about that certain group of people you are alluding to, just pointed out the facts.

This is pure slander.

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

There was no ban, hence you are mistaken. Take it with grace. No big deal, you were wrong.

If you did not say that then you really have no point do you, as this thread is about that specifically.

All your points are then off topic and you are actively derailing the thread.

a reply to: tadaman

Lol, please qoute where I said that there was a ban on pork. If you want I can also qoute the posts in which I specifically said that there wasn't such a ban. I think I said that at least 5 times in this thread.

You just can't get it right, can you.

a reply to: tadaman

If you did not say that then you really have no point do you, as this thread is about that specifically.

Please qoute the part of the OP that makes this claim.

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GET ON TOPIC !!!!

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originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UnBreakable
You mean catering to the clientele? *gasp*

Why. Why. That's just plain...um...what's the word? Business.

Shameful. It's as if McDonald's started selling salads.

Not sure where you are from. But in my country McDonald's is actually selling salads. Isn't that ironic.

He knows. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply to my previous statement.

His reply to you was suggesting that McDonald's doesn't sell salads. Or maybe I missed some subtle tone of his post.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

Yes I had but never about food not being halal.

originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
a reply to: neformore

SCHOOLS and canteens in Germany have BANNED pork from their menus over fears of offending Muslim migrants, a top politician has revealed. An increasing number of public canteens, child daycare centres and schools have stopped serving sausages, bacon and ham over religious considerations. Now members of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s CDU party are fighting to keep pork on the menu, insisting the consumption of pork is part of German culture.

So what is not true about this?

Because if you read the source article (you can find a link earlier in the thread) the politician said nothing of the sort - nothing of the sort whatsoever. But you believe what you think is the right thing to believe if that's what you prefer.

originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: pompel9

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UnBreakable
You mean catering to the clientele? *gasp*

Why. Why. That's just plain...um...what's the word? Business.

Shameful. It's as if McDonald's started selling salads.

Not sure where you are from. But in my country McDonald's is actually selling salads. Isn't that ironic.

He knows. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply to my previous statement.

His reply to you was suggesting that McDonald's doesn't sell salads. Or maybe I missed some subtle tone of his post.

I think you missed the subtle tone in the reply from Phage - it was an irony in that a corporation traditionally known for selling meat based products has looked at the market, seen opportunities and expanded their product line to sell salads.

Not that it's my place to speak for another member, but it comes down to the simple economic fact that people will sell what people want to buy (ie, the salad example from Phage) and won't sell what people don't want to buy (a potential reason for the lack of pork in some schools).