I am in utter disbelief that this 'Flat-Earth' nonsense has gained some attention

a reply to: lavatrance
That ridiculous video targets the stupid. Looks like he scored another bullseye.

What did Einstein have to say about this? i.imgur.com... Are you gonna sac up or keep hiding from it?

sorry, but op,you're on a site called 'abovetopsecret' and you're taking issue with mentalists who make mental claims on the Internet.


the irony....

a flat earth is crazy talk whereas 'predictions' or mythical creatures forums and ghosts and remote viewing are not.
how about the ufos on the moon who feed on brain waves; there are mentalists on YouTube spewing out that sort of tripe too.
we should ask flat earthers to go jump off the edge and prove their argumentsin the name of martyrdom.

is it possible that the earth is a globe with a solid glass dome around it? So like where space touched the atmosphere there is a glass casing? That's one theory I had sort of developed.

originally posted by: lavatrance
is it possible that the earth is a globe with a solid glass dome around it? So like where space touched the atmosphere there is a glass casing? That's one theory I had sort of developed.

How can you have a dome surrounding a globe?

If anything it would be a glass globe surrounding the globe (ish) Earth.

oh dear - i am now withdrawing from this thread before the inevitable clusterfook occurs

the last 2 pages of " discussion " demonstrate that attemptng to engage with the people who are utterly intulectually bankrupt is futile

i have said all i have to on this topic - my last FE thread and the replies // supporting arguments from others on it and other related threads over the last 3 weeks have not been challenged in any meaningful way

so - i am out

the flat earthers will no doubt cry victory and run back to thier echo chamber - but fook them

POLARIS INVICTUS

a reply to: lavatrance Anything is possible, but what gave you this idea of the Earth being encased in glass?... like we are living in a snow globe?... just a toy for giant aliens, maybe?

a reply to: ignorant_ape

I don't blame you.
It's a ridiculous argument at the best of times (if there is such a thing).

a reply to: lavatrance

No, it's really not.

originally posted by: lavatrance
a reply to: DenyObfuscation

Get real. Look I know what ur saying. But even Einstein said u can't use that as a basis for proving anything. Oh my goodness. Do some real research please!

For the third time now, WTF did Einstein say about this? i.imgur.com...

It's one thing to just be wrong, but to run around lying and queefing like this should be absolutely unacceptable.

40 Courics, minimum.

a reply to: Phage

500,000,000 million?

Holy Smokes that's a lotta folks.

Five hundred million million. 5 X 10 to the what power? My math doesn't go that high...not smart enough.

a reply to: Kandinsky

That about covers it, I'm afraid.

I can understand being annoyed at deliberately ignoring established science...science that's been around since Jesus was a babe in swaddling clothing, lying in a manger...

But to allow one or two FE proponents, who probably don't believe it anyway, to so totally lead them down the rabbit hole is amazing to watch...

originally posted by: M4nWithNoN4me
After seeing that another internet personality (who will remain nameless in this post) had gone on the record in support of the Flat Earth theory, enough was enough- I had to see for myself. What is the draw of this whole idea, and how do people fall under its spell? My goal was to go into this investigation without preconceptions and confirmation bias. And like many of you, I'm a person who doesn't have a problem with analyzing and dissecting theories and ideas that seem crazy at first glance, or have been labeled by the establishment as ridiculous. So I did a couple searches and checked out a video on YouTube, something like "The 200 Proofs of Flat Earth", just to see what it was all about. Well, to put it simply, IT WAS PREPOSTEROUS. I was, and still am, shocked and mortified, and EMBARRASSED FOR OUR HUMAN RACE that a concept so completely absurd, which has been roundly and thoroughly disproved by science for centuries, could somehow get into our collective consciousness.

The video's creator/narrator either lacks the ability to grasp the base concepts of physics, or refuses to, or is pretending they don't exist to serve an outside agenda... that's where the possible disinformation comes in. First I've just got to go off, to logically set fire to some of this person's unbelievable ideas. So if you wish to avoid the angry rant, just skip down to the last bit.

Listing his "proofs", He said things like - 'If the world were indeed round, rivers could not flow in the directions they do, sometimes even in a South->North direction. This is impossible because water cannot flow uphill, over the supposed curve of the Earth and to another point on the globe." For that to make any sense, you've got to have no concept of gravity existing as a tether to a center of mass, and water forever following the path of least resistance, over the Earth's contours and elevation changes, toward that center point. This "Proof", and many of his others which hinge on the same logical flaw, only makes sense if the Earth were hanging suspended in the middle of a room, and gravity were some outside force.

Here's another - "If the Earth were round, and rotating at thousands of miles an hour like we've been told, the wind at the surface of our planet wouldn't just be loud enough to be heard, but it would be so strong it would destroy structures and hurl people and animals into the air." Hmm, where to begin? The air is a fluid, just like water, but a bit lighter. It's spinning at the same rate as the land mass of the Earth, because like the oceans, all matter that has coalesced around our planet's center of gravity, is one body. Do he and other FE believers understand that space isn't made up of air, that's sitting still as the Earth and other objects move and rotate around and through it? Space is a frictionless vacuum. Nothing to cause resistance or drag as our atmosphere meets it, so of course the air moves along with the planet's surface. Then he said airplanes wouldn't be able to land on a round, rotating Earth, because they couldn't get moving fast enough to catch up with the speed of the ground beneath them in order to land in a West-to-East direction. Amazingly, this presupposes that the aircraft (and i guess the air around it) would've somehow stopped rotating along with the Earth at the moment of takeoff. And then he says that on a rotating Earth, travel by helicopter would be so simple- all you'd need to do is take off and hover, waiting for the land to move beneath you at a terrific speed, and then eventually descend and land at your destination. These are also nauseating in their ignorance, which is plainly evident to anyone with a logical brain capable of critical thought.

And I've just got to mention one more, then I'll leave this garbage alone. One of the major 'Proofs' was that when engineers design very long roads or bridges, like the Florida Keys highway, they never calculate/compensate for the curve of the Earth. So if the Earth were round, as the bridge was being built, it would've risen and continued in a straight line, from the ground, out into the sky. ...stop laughing, I'm serious, this was one of the 'Proofs". I guess according to that thought process, all the construction equipment was weightless. So having no attachment by gravity to the Earth, they would just gently lift off, along with all the construction workers and their flat Earth blueprints, their trucks, materials, etc., and go straight on into space. Sounds legit, Flat Earth Proven! UNBELIEVABLE.

End rant.

So many of this person's/these peoples' Proofs rely on just a few common misunderstandings of physics and fluid dynamics, that I've become convinced there is an agenda at work. Possibly an experiment by an agency or even an AI, to test the ability to preempt and/or short-circuit the logical processes of the human mind, and in what percentage of the population this has become possible... I'm reminded of Orwell's 1984, where Big Brother's goal was to make Winston not just say, but to believe, that two plus two equaled five.

Pretty far out, I know. But when some quasi-famous personalities who have the attention of the younger generation start to believe in this garbage and share it on social media, it makes my skin crawl.

Sorry for ranting on about such a wacky and fantastic topic, but I had to get it out of my system. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts friends.

I assume you're referring to Eric Dubay. Yes, he's an imbecile who doesn't understand basic logic.

a reply to: M4nWithNoN4me

it does seem we are de-evolving if we going back thinking it sflat.

i appreciate that the whole point of being a conspiracy theorist is to question everything to make your own conclusions.
but there are some stupid questions out there. i dont think government would have any benefit by making people beilve its round or flat.

on this occasion it is what it is, round. more evidence to support that logical approach then the it being flat.
is there some famous rapper at the moment promoting it being flat?, that why all this has popped up again. im sure of it

a reply to: M4nWithNoN4me

It is in FACT flat.

www.nro.gov...

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: lavatrance
is it possible that the earth is a globe with a solid glass dome around it? So like where space touched the atmosphere there is a glass casing? That's one theory I had sort of developed.

How can you have a dome surrounding a globe?

If anything it would be a glass globe surrounding the globe (ish) Earth.

How about a layer of ice crystals

originally posted by: M4nWithNoN4me

And I've just got to mention one more, then I'll leave this garbage alone. One of the major 'Proofs' was that when engineers design very long roads or bridges, like the Florida Keys highway, they never calculate/compensate for the curve of the Earth. So if the Earth were round, as the bridge was being built, it would've risen and continued in a straight line, from the ground, out into the sky. ...stop laughing,

The only proof here is that people like this almost certainly stand to make money by selling a book on the same subject.Builders do take the curvature of the earth into account when building large enough structures.The grandstand at Daytona raceway is 1 mile long and is an inch or so higher in the middle to compensate for this.It's the same level above the ground all the way along,but would be lower in the middle if they built it perfectly level.

There is evidence to PROVE the earth is flat and not a globe.

But there is no evidence to disprove it's flat or prove its a globe. All the globe has is pictures produces by govt agencies that the govts themselves admit are composite photo shopped images. The proof of a globe is the same proof people have for Bigfoot and the lochness monster, a couple pictures and that's it. The earth can't be proven to be a globe. There is no measurable curvature to be found. If you say something is this shape and then you can't physically measure that shape to exist well then it doesn't exist!

originally posted by: RockofTruth
There is evidence to PROVE the earth is flat and not a globe.

But there is no evidence to disprove it's flat or prove its a globe. All the globe has is pictures produces by govt agencies that the govts themselves admit are composite photo shopped images. The proof of a globe is the same proof people have for Bigfoot and the lochness monster, a couple pictures and that's it. The earth can't be proven to be a globe. There is no measurable curvature to be found. If you say something is this shape and then you can't physically measure that shape to exist well then it doesn't exist!

Are you going to share or just go around every thread and post the earth isn't a globe (ish) shape?

originally posted by: Imagewerx

originally posted by: M4nWithNoN4me

And I've just got to mention one more, then I'll leave this garbage alone. One of the major 'Proofs' was that when engineers design very long roads or bridges, like the Florida Keys highway, they never calculate/compensate for the curve of the Earth. So if the Earth were round, as the bridge was being built, it would've risen and continued in a straight line, from the ground, out into the sky. ...stop laughing,

The only proof here is that people like this almost certainly stand to make money by selling a book on the same subject.Builders do take the curvature of the earth into account when building large enough structures.The grandstand at Daytona raceway is 1 mile long and is an inch or so higher in the middle to compensate for this.It's the same level above the ground all the way along,but would be lower in the middle if they built it perfectly level.

I think globe curvature is like 8 inches a mile. So your example of curvature taken into account is disproven in TWO ways. 1, since it curves 8 inches in a mile a 1 inch difference wouldn't be enough to compensate for the height difference due to curvature. 2, they wouldn't change the elevation in the middle due to the earths curve, it would be one end of the mile long length that would need to be raised or rather the outer edges of both sides of the stands would have to be raised higher, not the middle. Your example only proves there is no curvature of the earth, and since there is no curve over a whole mile they had to raise the middle proration 1 inch to make it level. That 1 inch is a normal terrain difference, nothing to do with a curved ball it's supposed to be on.

I don't think they're being serious about this.

Are they? Maybe someone should prove to us they're not trolling before we start being outraged over how stupid it is.